Mike Coslo wrote:
My XYL took a look at that setup, and informed me that that was the
lowest on her list of "allowables" ! 8^)

My XYL (at the time) said she would move from CA to AZ only if I would
give up ham radio. She's still in CA now married to a non-ham. :-)
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In article , lloydm75
@hotmail.com says...
Steve,
If yu can handle a full sized one 102' and you'll be very happy. Now you can
build it yourself OR you can buy one from various vendors. Me I decided to
"stay as true to G5RV's article" and bought a G5RV from W7FG.com as it is
tru ladder line and actually is only two wires from the PL259 connector to
the end. simple and it works. http://www.w7fg.com/ant.htm

G5RV 80 - 10 Meters (102 Feet)
With 31 feet of Ladder Line.........................$35
Requires Coax from supplied UHF Male connector to equipment.

Believe me, if I could I would! But I'm in a condo and I don't have a
great deal of real estate in which to put up a decent-length antenna.
I'm having to content myself with 40-10 on the G5RV and a 2m vertical
for VHF operations. Hopefully I will be able to change over to a better
G5RV configuration soon, plus some beams for VHF and UHF, but that's a
ways down the road.

--

-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:

Reg Edwards wrote:
"But this Xmas try not to forget the terrible conditions, incessant
bombing with USA-manufactured weapons of mass destruction, and
USA-imposed economic sanctions----etc, etc, etc."

The intent has been minimization of deaths. We wanted to shock and awe
our enemies by display of our fantastic weapons and lay seige with
sanctions.

We have been successful. It will take a little longer to convince the
defeated that it was just what they had always wanted.

It was the British which brewed this whole mess during the First World
War. Britain was bankrupt and sought money from Jewish bankers by
promising a new Jewish homeland.

Chaim Weizman in 1919 wrote:
"I think that the God of Israel is with us. Both God in heaven and
Balfour in England viewed with favour the establishment in Palestine of
a national home for the Jewish people."

Britain drew the boundaries in the Middle East following the 1920 San
Remo Conference. Churchill offered King Abdullah of Jordan, the area
east of the Jordan River to keep peace between Britain and France.
Abdullah`s brother, Feisal would regain power in Syria, which was under
French control. Churchill tried to make the case for a Zionist state
with Arab leaders.

Britain created the mess for the money. They were desperate because
Victoria`s grandsons were at war in Europe. It was no more than
Britain`s duty to help the USA to try to clean up the mess that Britain
made at the end of WW-1.

Conflict between Arabs and Jews continued between the world wars.
Churchill reiterated Balfour in WW-2, to again get money. Britain was
broke again. Following WW-2, a flood of European Jews poured into
Palestine. Britain reacted with a partition and an honest attempt to
keep the peace.

The restraint of the British forces in Palestine was remarkable,
considering the provocations from all sides. I often wondered why
Britain just didn`t say: A pox on both your houses. Well, the Arab
Middle East holds most of the world`s onshore oil, a prize that can`t be
abandoned.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

Dear Rich,

Your summing up of 20th century middle eastern warfare and the decay of the
British Empire, on which the Sun never Sat but now has, is reasonably
accurate. Thanks for your careful trouble. Between you and us, the
aggressive character of the English-speaking and European peoples has
resulted in the present worse-than-ever mess - Armagedon is at last upon
us.


In previous centuries, before the internal combustion engine had been
invented, so-called civilisation, originating in Ur, Babylon and along the
Nile, had extended westwards as far as northern Spain and Vienna in central
Europe. The weapons of mass destruction then were, in their time, Greek
Fire, gunpowder, and biological weapons such as catapults to fling
plague-diseased corpses over the walls of beseiged cities. The Inquisition
has it's modern counterparts.


(The chemists of an independently originating civilisation in Eastern Asia
had invented the chemically propelled sky-rocket but the peoples of that
great land, having genes of a less aggressive nature, preferred to use it
for pretty firework celebrations. Incidentally, Chinese metallurists had
invented cast iron, 1000 years before the industrial revolution began in
Europe in the small town of Ironbridge, in a gorge on the river Severn, just
a few miles up the road from my QTH.)


All human decisions are made on the basis of what is already known. What is
already known is History. History should be the most important subject
taught in our educational institutions. At present, alongside geography, it
is the most neglected. All we have are newspaper hacks, TV news-analysts,
and the monitored dis-information Internet.


Some names in history -

Attilla the Hun.
Emperor Nero.
Ghengis Khan.
Napoleon Bonapart (Not tonight Josephine)
Adolph Hitler.
Joseph Little Uncle Stalin.
"Enora Gay"
George Self-confessed Crusader Bush.

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"Richard Harrison" wrote in message
...
Reg Edwards wrote:
"But this Xmas try not to forget the terrible conditions, incessant
bombing with USA-manufactured weapons of mass destruction, and
USA-imposed economic sanctions----etc, etc, etc."

The intent has been minimization of deaths. We wanted to shock and awe
our enemies by display of our fantastic weapons and lay seige with
sanctions.

We have been successful. It will take a little longer to convince the
defeated that it was just what they had always wanted.

It was the British which brewed this whole mess during the First World
War. Britain was bankrupt and sought money from Jewish bankers by
promising a new Jewish homeland.

Chaim Weizman in 1919 wrote:
"I think that the God of Israel is with us. Both God in heaven and
Balfour in England viewed with favour the establishment in Palestine of
a national home for the Jewish people."

Britain drew the boundaries in the Middle East following the 1920 San
Remo Conference. Churchill offered King Abdullah of Jordan, the area
east of the Jordan River to keep peace between Britain and France.
Abdullah`s brother, Feisal would regain power in Syria, which was under
French control. Churchill tried to make the case for a Zionist state
with Arab leaders.

Britain created the mess for the money. They were desperate because
Victoria`s grandsons were at war in Europe. It was no more than
Britain`s duty to help the USA to try to clean up the mess that Britain
made at the end of WW-1.

Conflict between Arabs and Jews continued between the world wars.
Churchill reiterated Balfour in WW-2, to again get money. Britain was
broke again. Following WW-2, a flood of European Jews poured into
Palestine. Britain reacted with a partition and an honest attempt to
keep the peace.

The restraint of the British forces in Palestine was remarkable,
considering the provocations from all sides. I often wondered why
Britain just didn`t say: A pox on both your houses. Well, the Arab
Middle East holds most of the world`s onshore oil, a prize that can`t be
abandoned.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

What's all this got to do with the subject, ' G5RV'?

Seems it's a bit off.....

Dear Jacques,

Oh yes, I was perfectly aware Bonaparte was the odd man out.

I put him there to suggest to a minority of USA readers the possibility that
a similar sort of error might have occurred with George B.
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Reg, G4FGQ

=============================

Reg,

If you place Napoléon Bonaparte beside Hitler and Stalin, I am not sure
you
know something about history. Of course you may consider metric system as
another plague ;-))

73 de Jacques - ON5MJ

Jacques wrote,

Thank you Richard for defending His genius.
I am living 15 km from the battle field of Waterloo and what is funny is
that we celebrate Napoléon, not Wellington. The duke of Wellington was the
winner but is rather forgotten. His museum there is as big as a coffee shop
while Napoléon is displayed everywhere. Maybe because we never forgot that
we were french before 1815. Now there is a lion in bronze made of gun-metal
on a 45m hill at this place (but nobody is allowed to attach a G5RV on the
top, ... on day I will try to find the frequency of resonance of the lion
itself).

The only thing I would like to add is that we are to-day (december 20th) the
200th anniversary of the sale of the french Louisina by Napoléon to the
United States of America. USA added 12 states and increased their surface by
a factor of 2 in one hit of magic wand. It was the first step of the
westward expansion. The price was not that high as USA paid only 400 million
dollars (of to-day). Napoléon estimated he couldn't afford to maintain
troops there and to administrate the country. So he decided to sell this
area to Americans by friendship instead of being forced to give it for free
to UK. This permitted to Americans not being surrounded by British troops.

Have a nice Christmas.

73 de Jacques - ON5MJ


Wellington didn't win that battle, Blücher did. According to Victor Hugo,
Wellington even had the gall to criticize the quality of his own troops
afterward.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

Jacques wrote;


Thanks Tom for this precision. But Blücher has no museum at all in Waterloo.
The only one on the side of the winners, is the one of Wellington. I didn't
know that Wellington criticized his own troops. Victor Hugo was probably the
greatest french writer but he was very much Napoléon minded, so ...
".("Waterloo, morne plaine"). He even called many years later Napoléon III,
"Napoléon-le-petit". Also, sometimes schools are not honnest. Blücher was
prussian and after WW2, when I was at elementary school, it was not well
accepted to dress germans with the clothes of winners.
And I was a bit confused also by the fact that since 1815, Belgium pays a
fee to the family of Wellington (I know it's very few now because the value
of money has dropped but it still exists because there was a signature on a
piece of paper). I sincerely thought that he was the winner, because he
administrated France from 1815 to 1818 during the occupation period.

73 de Jacques - ON5MJ

Blücher arrives in the nick of time and Wellington gets the credit. Oh well,
life
isn't fair. Scientists, mathematicians and others sometimes get shorted by
history because the historians are confused. Some contributors to this
newsgroup
like to complain about Heaviside's treatment by the historians. Just write
something
about "Maxwell's equations" some time and watch what happens.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

Jacques, ON5MJ wrote:
"USA added 12 states and increased their size by a factor of 2 in one
hit of magic wand."

The Louisiana Purchase from France was the most important item in the
territorial growth of the USA. Jefferson wasn`t sure that it was even
legal according to the US constitution when he bought the territory, but
he was sure that it was necessary, so he did it anyway.

Thomas Jefferson succeeded Benjamin Franklin as minister to France in
1785. Jefferson sympathized with the French Revolution.

Jefferson was a reluctant candidate for President in 1796, and became
Vice-President in the Adams administration as runner-up due to the
election law at the time. In 1800, Jefferson was elected President. He
sent the U.S. Navy to the Mediterranean to dispose of the Barbary
pirates who were harrassing American commerce. I think the term "To the
shores of Tripoli" in the Marine Hymn comes from that action. As the
Marines say, "when it absolutely has to be done, the Marines are ready."

Jefferson acquired the Louisana Territory from Napoleon in 1803. He sent
Lewis & Clark in 1804-1806 overland to Oregon to examine the purchase
and claim it for the U.S.A.. The explorers did a magnificent job.

During Jefferson`s second Presidential Term, he devoted much of his
energy to keeping the U.S.A. clear of the Napoleonic Wars, though both
England and France interfered with the neutral rights of American
merchant ships.

The Louisiana Purchase was essential in creation of a powerful nation
spreading from the Atlantic to the Pacific. Jefferson, the purchaser,
died at 83 years of age on July 4, 1826, anniversary of the Declaration
of Independance of 1776 which Jefferson mostly wrote. He usually was the
brightest bulb on the tree.

Merry Christmas and best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI