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Stuck Slug in HQ-145
I have just about finished restoring and re-calibrating a 47 year old HQ-145. I
have only one issue left. The input stage for the first rf amplifier uses slug tuned inductances. The slug adjustments proceeded normally for the BC, 160-80, and 40 meter bands. The slug for the 20 through 10 meter band is "STUCK". The inductance is packaged in a typical i.f. can with top and bottom openings. Does anyone have any 'hints and kinks' for unsticking the slug? BTW, the radio is operating on 20 meters and responds moderately well to a signal generator on 10 meters. I would just like to peak the response. Ideas?? /s/ DD, W1MCE |
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Stuck Slug in HQ-145
Dave wrote:
I have just about finished restoring and re-calibrating a 47 year old HQ-145. I have only one issue left. The input stage for the first rf amplifier uses slug tuned inductances. The slug adjustments proceeded normally for the BC, 160-80, and 40 meter bands. The slug for the 20 through 10 meter band is "STUCK". Oftentimes what appears to be a stuck slug is actually a broken slug. If the slug has a hexagonal, square, or triangular hole that passes through its center, and the slug splits along that hole, the tuning wand will cam the two halves of the slug tightly against the walls of the coil form, and the harder you turn, the tighter the slug will hang on. The answer to this sort of problem is to glue the slug halves together with crazy glue. A single dot of glue, inside the slug's hole, applied directly to the crack with a toothpick will do the trick. The amount of glue must be very small. Less is more in this case. An alternate method is to glue a round toothpick into the broken slug with epoxy. Again, dip the toothpick into the epoxy, and slide it into the hole without touching the coil form. Use the minimum amount of glue that will stick the pick into the slug's tuning hole. -Chuck |
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Stuck Slug in HQ-145
"Chuck Harris" wrote in message ... Dave wrote: I have just about finished restoring and re-calibrating a 47 year old HQ-145. I have only one issue left. The input stage for the first rf amplifier uses slug tuned inductances. The slug adjustments proceeded normally for the BC, 160-80, and 40 meter bands. The slug for the 20 through 10 meter band is "STUCK". Oftentimes what appears to be a stuck slug is actually a broken slug. If the slug has a hexagonal, square, or triangular hole that passes through its center, and the slug splits along that hole, the tuning wand will cam the two halves of the slug tightly against the walls of the coil form, and the harder you turn, the tighter the slug will hang on. The answer to this sort of problem is to glue the slug halves together with crazy glue. A single dot of glue, inside the slug's hole, applied directly to the crack with a toothpick will do the trick. The amount of glue must be very small. Less is more in this case. An alternate method is to glue a round toothpick into the broken slug with epoxy. Again, dip the toothpick into the epoxy, and slide it into the hole without touching the coil form. Use the minimum amount of glue that will stick the pick into the slug's tuning hole. -Chuck Many of the forms used in the HQ145 are made of a very cheap plastic that has become extremely brittle and friable with age. Something else to watch for. Pete |
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Stuck Slug in HQ-145
Yechhh! I hate it when this happens!
I have experienced this several times in the last few years, the most recent being this past week while aligning a 60s vintage transmitter. My personal experience is that glueing the broken slug back together has never worked for me. Apparently the breach throws off the properties of ferrite slug. What always has worked best for me is to swallow hard, utter the words "damn it" and then proceed to repair the problem. My repair is to VERY CAREFULLY pick out the broken pieces with a needle nose pliers. Nibble away at the old slug with the pliers if necessary until you've removed the old slug like a decayed tooth. . Drilling it out does nothing except twist the plastic core around the bit and ruin it. I then replace the slug with a comparable one found in the transformer can of a 60s vintage stereo receiver I keep on hand for just such parts. By the way, I have performed "autopsies" on defective slug coils by razor cutting them down their sides and each time has revealed the slug was lodged in a cross-threaded configuration. I have never been able to free a cross thread inside a coil. W9STB "Dave" wrote in message ... I have just about finished restoring and re-calibrating a 47 year old HQ-145. I have only one issue left. The input stage for the first rf amplifier uses slug tuned inductances. The slug adjustments proceeded normally for the BC, 160-80, and 40 meter bands. The slug for the 20 through 10 meter band is "STUCK". The inductance is packaged in a typical i.f. can with top and bottom openings. Does anyone have any 'hints and kinks' for unsticking the slug? BTW, the radio is operating on 20 meters and responds moderately well to a signal generator on 10 meters. I would just like to peak the response. Ideas?? /s/ DD, W1MCE |
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Stuck Slug in HQ-145
I have tried a number of frustrating methods to remove the broken slug - all
to no avail. I did repair a number of slugs in the HQ-145. I ended up making new coils with new forms and new slugs. But, I think Chuck has the right and only approach. The problem is that the core breaks and acts as a cam. Once someone tries too hard, bits fall off the slug which will cinch the destruction. But, if before any particles end up between the core and the threaded form, the super glue can be used to secure the core enough to preventing it from "camming", then the core can be removed. Once it is removed, I think it can be glued properly with superglue. If you decide to use a different core, it must be the same material - not just the same thread. I think I would probably illuminate a led and insert it into the bottom of the core and press on the form just before using the superglue to center the core. The core may actually be more unreplaceable than the form. In some cases it might be a good choice to destroy the form to save the core - then glue the core fully and make a new form. It is possible to get a form slightly larger and use hot melt to create threads for the core. Something like a large straw might work as a form. 73, Colin K7FM |
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Stuck Slug in HQ-145
Smokey wrote:
Yechhh! I hate it when this happens! I have experienced this several times in the last few years, the most recent being this past week while aligning a 60s vintage transmitter. My personal experience is that glueing the broken slug back together has never worked for me. Apparently the breach throws off the properties of ferrite slug. It does, UNLESS you use a ferrite cement intended for just that application. GC Electronics makes some that I have used with success before. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Stuck Slug in HQ-145
This has been, I should say, was a problem for me until I found out just
what to do. I lay the coil on its side and sneak up to it with a 1 pound ballpeen hammer. I good "SHAMACK" and its not a problem anymore. Makes me feel better to. -- Regards, Gary...WZ1M "Dave" wrote in message ... I have just about finished restoring and re-calibrating a 47 year old HQ-145. I have only one issue left. The input stage for the first rf amplifier uses slug tuned inductances. The slug adjustments proceeded normally for the BC, 160-80, and 40 meter bands. The slug for the 20 through 10 meter band is "STUCK". The inductance is packaged in a typical i.f. can with top and bottom openings. Does anyone have any 'hints and kinks' for unsticking the slug? BTW, the radio is operating on 20 meters and responds moderately well to a signal generator on 10 meters. I would just like to peak the response. Ideas?? /s/ DD, W1MCE |
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Stuck Slug in HQ-145
I've heard about this procedure before. The individual who informed me suggested
that I include a small piece of steel in the adjustment hole prior to the SHAMACK [I guess SHAMACK was used because it is St. Paddy's day]. After the SHAMACK take a needle nose and bend the steel wire into a broad 1/2 loop. File one end until it is sharp, then go fishin'. Do I understand your suggestion properly? :-) DD, W1MCE gkb wrote: This has been, I should say, was a problem for me until I found out just what to do. I lay the coil on its side and sneak up to it with a 1 pound ballpeen hammer. I good "SHAMACK" and its not a problem anymore. Makes me feel better to. |
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Stuck Slug in HQ-145
I usually hot glue it on the wall as a constant reminder. WOW, running out
wall room, hehehehehe -- Regards, Gary...WZ1M "Dave" wrote in message . .. I've heard about this procedure before. The individual who informed me suggested that I include a small piece of steel in the adjustment hole prior to the SHAMACK [I guess SHAMACK was used because it is St. Paddy's day]. After the SHAMACK take a needle nose and bend the steel wire into a broad 1/2 loop. File one end until it is sharp, then go fishin'. Do I understand your suggestion properly? :-) DD, W1MCE gkb wrote: This has been, I should say, was a problem for me until I found out just what to do. I lay the coil on its side and sneak up to it with a 1 pound ballpeen hammer. I good "SHAMACK" and its not a problem anymore. Makes me feel better to. |
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