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Old May 17th 05, 07:55 PM
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Right or wrong, the broadcast regulations *are* the official rules

These rules were thought up before PLL transmitters.
Analog mini transmitters can be all over the dial. The new digital ones can
lock dead on.

I think the FCC should change the rules to allow higher power levels
depending on the type of equipment you're using.

Low power stations can provide a valuable service and should be allowed to
be part of the media mix.


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Old May 18th 05, 07:01 PM
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In article , fredtv wrote:
Right or wrong, the broadcast regulations *are* the official rules


These rules were thought up before PLL transmitters.
Analog mini transmitters can be all over the dial. The new digital ones can
lock dead on.


No. Crystal control is just as accurate as PLL control. And the FCC frankly
doesn't care _how_ you control frequency, just as long as it stays within
the specified limits.

I think the FCC should change the rules to allow higher power levels
depending on the type of equipment you're using.

Low power stations can provide a valuable service and should be allowed to
be part of the media mix.


That's what the whole LPFM licensing is about, and it's what the old Class D
allocation used to be about. The problem is that the bands are too crowded
for many of the things to be given out. There just aren't a lot of places
to shoehorn low power stations today because there are already too many
stations on the bands.

Now, if I ran the FCC, I'd be revoking licenses right and left for "failure
to provide a public service and contribute to the public good," but I do
not.
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Old May 19th 05, 04:12 AM
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Scott Dorsey wrote:
In article , fredtv wrote:

Right or wrong, the broadcast regulations *are* the official rules


These rules were thought up before PLL transmitters.
Analog mini transmitters can be all over the dial. The new digital ones can
lock dead on.



No. Crystal control is just as accurate as PLL control. And the FCC frankly
doesn't care _how_ you control frequency, just as long as it stays within
the specified limits.


Scott, the other item that's being missed by these people who believe
that they can use non type accepted equipment is the strenuous off
frequency emissions standards.


I think the FCC should change the rules to allow higher power levels
depending on the type of equipment you're using.

Low power stations can provide a valuable service and should be allowed to
be part of the media mix.



That's what the whole LPFM licensing is about, and it's what the old Class D
allocation used to be about. The problem is that the bands are too crowded
for many of the things to be given out. There just aren't a lot of places
to shoehorn low power stations today because there are already too many
stations on the bands.

Now, if I ran the FCC, I'd be revoking licenses right and left for "failure
to provide a public service and contribute to the public good," but I do
not.
--scott


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Old May 19th 05, 04:13 AM
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On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:01:23 +0000, Scott Dorsey wrote:

Now, if I ran the FCC, I'd be revoking licenses right and left for "failure
to provide a public service and contribute to the public good," but I do
not.
--scott


I wish you were running the FCC, stations these days simply don't do
any public service. Running recorded Public service programs at 4 am on a
Sunday morning won't cut it in my book.

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Old May 19th 05, 05:25 PM
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Korbin Dallas wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:01:23 +0000, Scott Dorsey wrote:

Now, if I ran the FCC, I'd be revoking licenses right and left for "failure
to provide a public service and contribute to the public good," but I do
not.


I wish you were running the FCC, stations these days simply don't do
any public service. Running recorded Public service programs at 4 am on a
Sunday morning won't cut it in my book.


I agree, but the chances of my ever running the FCC are about as good
as Clear Channel putting a classical station on the air.

Oh yes, and annual proof of performance measurements. I'd bring them back.
--scott

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Old May 19th 05, 05:25 PM
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On 19 May 2005 03:13:03 GMT, Korbin Dallas
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I wish you were running the FCC, stations these days simply don't do
any public service. Running recorded Public service programs at 4 am on a
Sunday morning won't cut it in my book.


If they ran them at 6pm would you listen to them?

Rich

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Old May 23rd 05, 12:25 AM
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"Rich Wood" wrote in message
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| On 19 May 2005 03:13:03 GMT, Korbin Dallas
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| I wish you were running the FCC, stations these days simply don't do
| any public service. Running recorded Public service programs at 4 am on
a
| Sunday morning won't cut it in my book.

| If they ran them at 6pm would you listen to them?

If they actually had some meaning to my life, yes. But you and I both know
that, as these programs aren't exactly profit-centers, they get some pretty
scant funding which limits the ability for them to actually attain
relevancy.

Good to hear from you, Rich!
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On 2005-05-19 said:
I wish you were running the FCC, stations these days simply don't
do any public service. Running recorded Public service programs
at 4 am on a Sunday morning won't cut it in my book.

If they ran them at 6pm would you listen to them?

IF they were well presented I probably would. Usually our NPR
affiliate here has switched back to music from news. THese days for
lack of anything better on the dial I spin the dial one notch up the
band and tune in wwoz here in NEw Orleans if I'm traveling to work or
about the city. AT home I only listen to npr news when I get up in
the mornings and occasionally wwoz. OTherwise I'm listening to
whatever audio is relevant to the project I'm producing or my own
music collection which is far more varied than anything I can get on
commercial radio.
HOwever I can say that for the most part well presented public service
programming at 6:00 P.M. would be something I'd make an effort to tune
in.

I'm like the poster you quoted. People such as Mr. DOrsey would do a
much better job of running an agency such as the FCC. True public
service would be more than just something that had to receive some lip
service to keep one's broadcasting license.



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On Thu, 19 May 2005 16:25:47 +0000, Rich Wood wrote:

On 19 May 2005 03:13:03 GMT, Korbin Dallas
wrote:

I wish you were running the FCC, stations these days simply don't do
any public service. Running recorded Public service programs at 4 am on a
Sunday morning won't cut it in my book.


If they ran them at 6pm would you listen to them?

Rich


No, I did not run those lousy programs. Public service should be part of
what the station does every day. The typical Public service programs
hidden away on Sunday morning do the public no good. The station might
was well be playing music.


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Old May 24th 05, 08:20 AM
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Public service should be part of
what the station does every day. The typical Public service programs
hidden away on Sunday morning do the public no good.



Remember when top 40 stations had talented and clever news people who
actually crafted listenable newscasts? They were fun on slow news days and
credible when the public need arose. Public service was also part of the
format-- not a block of shows hidden on the schedule.

Fred Cantu
Austin, TX




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