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Tampa Bay Hammies
A great bunch of folks who understand and comprehend the true threats to
amateur radio. _ http://www.eham.net/articles/6675 _ The Tampa Bay Hamfest Issues a Challenge Dan Johnson (W4BNC) on October 7, 2003 Add a comment about this article! The Tampa Bay Hamfest Issues a Challenge In Defense of Amateur Radio By: Dan Johnson - W4BNC October 6, 2003 This December 6th and 7th, the twenty-eighth annual Tampa Bay Hamfest will continue the celebration of everything good that is Ham Radio. But our celebration will be tempered by a new and ominous threat to our frequencies and our operating privileges. A proposal to allow Broadband over Power Lines (BPL) is currently pending before the Federal Communications Commission. BPL has the potential to cause devastating interference to the entire radio spectrum between 2 MHz and 80 MHz. The Florida Gulf Coast Amateur Radio Council (FGCARC), sponsors of the 28th Annual Tampa Bay Hamfest, has overwhelmingly voted to donate $1.00 of each admission ticket sold at this year's hamfest to the ARRL - BPL Legal Defense Fund. FGCARC is proud to issue the Tampa Bay Hamfest Challenge to every other major Hamfest nationwide. We challenge you to follow our lead by contributing ONE DOLLAR per ticket to the ARRL Amateur Radio Defense Fund. "I am very pleased that our group has chosen the high road to defend our frequency privileges", says Dan Johnson, W4BNC, this year's council president and hamfest chairman. Our success has been derived from the dedication of a loyal core group of members from 28 ham clubs within the West Central Florida Section that have come together with one common goal; that is to promote a successful hamfest. At a time when many events are on a decline we have been fortunate to experience growth over the last 3 years. The Florida Gulf Coast Amateur Radio Council, Inc. recognizes the substantial threat BPL is to the over eight hundred sixty thousand Amateur Radio licensees nationwide. For this reason, the 2003 TampaBay Hamfest will be conducted "In Defense of Amateur Radio". ARRL Labs Technical Manager Ed Hare, W1RFI will present information on BPL. ARRL Southeastern Division Director Frank Butler, W4RH will discuss the ARRL's actions, to date, to stop this threat. Other forums will focus on positive steps Hams can take to advance the Amateur Radio art. And, our vendors will bring the latest Ham Radio technology to their booths. Come help us "In Defense of Amateur Radio" at the twenty-eight annual TampaBay Hamfest, December 6th and 7th at the Manatee Co. Civic Center, Palmetto, FL. For more information, visit our website, http://www.fgcarc.org. |
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"Twistedhed" wrote in message ... A great bunch of folks who understand and comprehend the true threats to amateur radio. How about it's greatest threat, this being ham radio has been technologically obsolete and stagnant for over 10+ Years now.....? http://www.eham.net/articles/6675 _ The Tampa Bay Hamfest Issues a Challenge Dan Johnson (W4BNC) on October 7, 2003 Add a comment about this article! The Tampa Bay Hamfest Issues a Challenge In Defense of Amateur Radio By: Dan Johnson - W4BNC October 6, 2003 This December 6th and 7th, the twenty-eighth annual Tampa Bay Hamfest will continue the celebration of everything good that is Ham Radio. But our celebration will be tempered by a new and ominous threat to our frequencies and our operating privileges. A proposal to allow Broadband over Power Lines (BPL) is currently pending before the Federal Communications Commission. I guess these fools do not know that the FCC has already given the green light to BPL... See: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-239079A1.doc BPL has the potential to cause devastating interference to the entire radio spectrum between 2 MHz and 80 MHz. The Florida Gulf Coast Amateur Radio Council (FGCARC), sponsors of the 28th Annual Tampa Bay Hamfest, has overwhelmingly voted to donate $1.00 of each admission ticket sold at this year's hamfest to the ARRL - BPL Legal Defense Fund. Let's see.....about 1000 old crotchety curmudgeon hams will attend to the Tampa Bay Hamfest. That's $1000 Counter this with the ISP industry's estimated $3-6 BILLION in Lobbyist Money floating around DC at and given time...... FGCARC is proud to issue the Tampa Bay Hamfest Challenge to every other major Hamfest nationwide. We challenge you to follow our lead by contributing ONE DOLLAR per ticket to the ARRL Amateur Radio Defense Fund. "I am very pleased that our group has chosen the high road to defend our frequency privileges", says Dan Johnson, W4BNC, this year's council president and hamfest chairman. Our success has been derived from the dedication of a loyal core group of members from 28 ham clubs within the West Central Florida Section that have come together with one common goal; that is to promote a successful hamfest. Yeah, have another good hamfest or two before Ham Radio is sent into the dustbin of history..... Just speakin the truth and they can't take it. (YOU BOYS SHOULD HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO WAYNE GREEN ALL ALONG! IT'S TOO LATE NOW. OH WELL.....) |
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"Twistedhed" wrote in message ... A great bunch of folks who understand and comprehend the true threats to amateur radio. How about it's greatest threat, this being ham radio has been technologically obsolete and stagnant for over 10+ Years now.....? http://www.eham.net/articles/6675 _ The Tampa Bay Hamfest Issues a Challenge Dan Johnson (W4BNC) on October 7, 2003 Add a comment about this article! The Tampa Bay Hamfest Issues a Challenge In Defense of Amateur Radio By: Dan Johnson - W4BNC October 6, 2003 This December 6th and 7th, the twenty-eighth annual Tampa Bay Hamfest will continue the celebration of everything good that is Ham Radio. But our celebration will be tempered by a new and ominous threat to our frequencies and our operating privileges. A proposal to allow Broadband over Power Lines (BPL) is currently pending before the Federal Communications Commission. I guess these fools do not know that the FCC has already given the green light to BPL... See: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-239079A1.doc BPL has the potential to cause devastating interference to the entire radio spectrum between 2 MHz and 80 MHz. The Florida Gulf Coast Amateur Radio Council (FGCARC), sponsors of the 28th Annual Tampa Bay Hamfest, has overwhelmingly voted to donate $1.00 of each admission ticket sold at this year's hamfest to the ARRL - BPL Legal Defense Fund. Let's see.....about 1000 old crotchety curmudgeon hams will attend to the Tampa Bay Hamfest. That's $1000 Counter this with the ISP industry's estimated $3-6 BILLION in Lobbyist Money floating around DC at and given time...... FGCARC is proud to issue the Tampa Bay Hamfest Challenge to every other major Hamfest nationwide. We challenge you to follow our lead by contributing ONE DOLLAR per ticket to the ARRL Amateur Radio Defense Fund. "I am very pleased that our group has chosen the high road to defend our frequency privileges", says Dan Johnson, W4BNC, this year's council president and hamfest chairman. Our success has been derived from the dedication of a loyal core group of members from 28 ham clubs within the West Central Florida Section that have come together with one common goal; that is to promote a successful hamfest. Yeah, have another good hamfest or two before Ham Radio is sent into the dustbin of history..... Just speakin the truth and they can't take it. (YOU BOYS SHOULD HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO WAYNE GREEN ALL ALONG! IT'S TOO LATE NOW. OH WELL.....) |
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From: (Hambone=A0the=A0Magnificent)
"Twistedhed" wrote in message ... A great bunch of folks who understand and comprehend the true threats to amateur radio. _ How about it's greatest threat, this being ham radio has been technologically obsolete and stagnant for over 10+ Years now.....? _ Hammie radio's greatest threats are hammies like yourself, Dave. http://www.eham.net/articles/6675 _ The Tampa Bay Hamfest Issues a Challenge Dan Johnson (W4BNC) on October 7, 2003 Add a comment about this article! The Tampa Bay Hamfest Issues a Challenge In Defense of Amateur Radio By: Dan Johnson - W4BNC October 6, 2003 This December 6th and 7th, the twenty-eighth annual Tampa Bay Hamfest will continue the celebration of everything good that is Ham Radio. But our celebration will be tempered by a new and ominous threat to our frequencies and our operating privileges. A proposal to allow Broadband over Power Lines (BPL) is currently pending before the Federal Communications Commission. _ I guess these fools do not know that the FCC has already given the green light to BPL... See: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachm atch/DOC-239079A1.doc _ The only "fool" is one that can't see the forest for the trees. The gist of the article, is matters that are of inherent concern to hammie radio, are widely agreed upon, unlike the few who hammies in rec.radio.cb who like to lay their life's problems at the feet of cbers who may dx. _ BPL has the potential to cause devastating interference to the entire radio spectrum between 2 MHz and 80 MHz. The Florida Gulf Coast Amateur Radio Council (FGCARC), sponsors of the 28th Annual Tampa Bay Hamfest, has overwhelmingly voted to donate $1.00 of each admission ticket sold at this year's hamfest to the ARRL - BPL Legal Defense Fund. _ Let's see.....about 1000 old crotchety curmudgeon hams will attend to the Tampa Bay Hamfest. That's $1000 Counter this with the ISP industry's estimated $3-6 BILLION in Lobbyist Money floating around DC at and given time...... _ Perhaps when you rid yourself of the "Sybil" complex from which you suffer, you may comprehend. Until then, feel free to continue to pull numbers from your rectal orifice and set them forward as if they had some type significance or relevance. _ FGCARC is proud to issue the Tampa Bay Hamfest Challenge to every other major Hamfest nationwide. We challenge you to follow our lead by contributing ONE DOLLAR per ticket to the ARRL Amateur Radio Defense Fund. "I am very pleased that our group has chosen the high road to defend our frequency privileges", says Dan Johnson, W4BNC, this year's council president and hamfest chairman. Our success has been derived from the dedication of a loyal core group of members from 28 ham clubs within the West Central Florida Section that have come together with one common goal; that is to promote a successful hamfest. __ Yeah, have another good hamfest or two before Ham Radio is sent into the dustbin of history..... _ LOL..poor chap. _ Just speakin the truth and they can't take it. (YOU BOYS SHOULD HAVE BEEN LISTENING _ And therein is your problem,,,,,,you're laughed at when you demand what others should and shouldn't do. _ IT'S TOO LATE NOW. OH WELL.....) LOL,,,only for those such as yourself that cemented your lid-like reputation, etched in usenet stone. |
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The only "fool" is one that can't see the forest for the trees. The gist of the article, is matters that are of inherent concern to hammie radio, are widely agreed upon, unlike the few who hammies in rec.radio.cb who like to lay their life's problems at the feet of cbers who may dx. Snip Not that I favor any BPL technology but it will be interesting to see how the ever present letter of the law frequency police that troll this group react to new rules concerning amateur radio and BPL. I wonder if they will adhere to the letter of the law when it concerns them? |
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wrote in message ... Snip The only "fool" is one that can't see the forest for the trees. The gist of the article, is matters that are of inherent concern to hammie radio, are widely agreed upon, unlike the few who hammies in rec.radio.cb who like to lay their life's problems at the feet of cbers who may dx. Snip Not that I favor any BPL technology but it will be interesting to see how the ever present letter of the law frequency police that troll this group react to new rules concerning amateur radio and BPL. I wonder if they will adhere to the letter of the law when it concerns them? What it will do is shut down both ham radio and cb. Power lines (unlike CATV) are usually unshielded and BPL will cover the ham and cb bands with solid 10 dB over s9 white noise once it gets going. The FCC wants this BPL so bad because it will enable "Internet Ready" appliances like Microwave Ovens, and Refrigerators. The FCC wants everyone to click a few keys on their cell phone and be able to tyrn on their microwave oven or crock pot while their still on the way home on the Interstate like George Jetson of the cartoon series of the same name. It will also generate huge revenue for the telephone and power line carriers who will no doubt be able to charge big bucks for this service like the cable TV providers do right now. Bottom line: It's all about MONEY. Always was. Always will be. Case closed. |
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"Mike Cavenaaugh" wrote:
wrote in message ... Snip The only "fool" is one that can't see the forest for the trees. The gist of the article, is matters that are of inherent concern to hammie radio, are widely agreed upon, unlike the few who hammies in rec.radio.cb who like to lay their life's problems at the feet of cbers who may dx. Snip Not that I favor any BPL technology but it will be interesting to see how the ever present letter of the law frequency police that troll this group react to new rules concerning amateur radio and BPL. I wonder if they will adhere to the letter of the law when it concerns them? What it will do is shut down both ham radio and cb. Power lines (unlike CATV) are usually unshielded and BPL will cover the ham and cb bands with solid 10 dB over s9 white noise once it gets going. The FCC wants this BPL so bad because it will enable "Internet Ready" appliances like Microwave Ovens, and Refrigerators. The FCC wants everyone to click a few keys on their cell phone and be able to tyrn on their microwave oven or crock pot while their still on the way home on the Interstate like George Jetson of the cartoon series of the same name. It will also generate huge revenue for the telephone and power line carriers who will no doubt be able to charge big bucks for this service like the cable TV providers do right now. Bottom line: It's all about MONEY. Always was. Always will be. Case closed. Yep, the BPL spells gloom and doom for air to air use. BIG money will always win the band spectrum, and all you'll be able to do is -attempt- to jam in incoming interference. Does that make you a keyclown if you attempt to jam something that is stepping on your toes!? Shame on the mess. -- http://NewsReader.Com/ 50 GB/Month |
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It will be interesting as it will not be protected from legitimate users. I
did not keep the URL, but tests were run in one area with BPL. Filters were in use to "reduce" interference to the amateur bands. A test was run connecting through BPL with a computer and a 20 meter dipole up some modest height (again, I don't recall exact figures). It seems 20 watts or so caused 70% packet loss and 50 watts rendered BPL 100% unusable. I'm not going to say what will or will not be; it seems, to me at least, that there was a lot of salesmanship and little technical thought in this whole process. We shall see. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.524 / Virus Database: 321 - Release Date: 10/6/03 |
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"Jim Hampton" wrote:
It will be interesting as it will not be protected from legitimate users. I did not keep the URL, but tests were run in one area with BPL. Filters were in use to "reduce" interference to the amateur bands. A test was run connecting through BPL with a computer and a 20 meter dipole up some modest height (again, I don't recall exact figures). It seems 20 watts or so caused 70% packet loss and 50 watts rendered BPL 100% unusable. I'm not going to say what will or will not be; it seems, to me at least, that there was a lot of salesmanship and little technical thought in this whole process. We shall see. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim I'm not sure anyone really knows what will happen if they plug that in. "We shall see" is it. -- http://NewsReader.Com/ 50 GB/Month |
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