On Fri, 14 May 2004 13:26:44 GMT, "Landshark"
wrote:


"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 May 2004 04:13:14 GMT, "Landshark"
So, can I assume then that you have no alternative answer? Should we
just allow society to regress in much the same manner as operators on
CB radio did?

There's not much you can do about society as a whole.

A single individual cannot make much of a difference. But if every
individual joined with other like-minded individuals, pretty soon you
develop a force to be reckoned with.

A noble idea, but IMHO not viable

As long as people feel that way, your statement becomes
self-fufilling.


You
can only make your part of society the best you can. Raise
the children with good values and to respect their elders.

A lot of good it does when they are thrust into a world which does not
share those well taught values. When your (and mine) kid has to hang
out with other kids who think it's cool to be stupid, indifferent, or
rebellious (even if they don't fully understand what they're rebelling
against), all of that good upbringing goes out the window unless they
have a strong support system.


Actually it does a lot of good. If you taught them right and they
can tell the difference between right & wrong, they won't hangout
with those "other" kids.

Let me tell you, good judgement is sometimes placed on the back
burner when kids struggle to be "popular" and on the "A-list". They
may come to their senses when they get in their 20's, but by that time
they may have done things that will forever affect them. You either
have to remain ever vigilant and provide some moral re-enforcement, or
you have to do your best to remove your kids from temptation. Neither
one is easy to do in today's world. Sex, drugs and violence are only a
click of the remote away. Modern music is laced with all sorts of
"wrong" messages. It's hard to compete with the mass media and pop
culture.


As you said, did dumb things when younger
and since have learned better, that's what you hope you can instill
into your children, but maybe a little earlier than you & I.

I can only pray that this remains a true statement. But when I was a
kid, the intensity and sheer magnitude of abhorrent behaviors was a
fraction of what it is now. Getting caught smoking on school grounds
was considered a big deal back then (And only in high school).


One is simply a reflection of the other. The gradual, but definite,
regression of morality and good character is evident on both CB and in
society as a whole. Having been involved with CB radio for the better
part of 30+ years, I had a front row seat for the show.

How far this "regression" continues remains to be seen.


Well a lot has to do with location, location, location. Been
through a lot of place in the state and mostly the big cities
have the agitators. The burbs and small places usually are
pretty A-typical type of CB.

Yea, it's going to vary depending on location. But I would also offer
that the character of the people themselves varies in the same
proportion in those areas.

only proves that the technology is viable.

Yes Technology is available, but it won't be used, at least
probably not in our lifetime.

I'm curious to know why you feel that way.

I just don't think the general public at large is going to let
the government know where they are at all times, as
you said "Big Brother".

Many laws would not be enacted if we left it up to the people to "let
the government" pass them. Would we be paying taxes right now, if we
could vote them out? If a strong enough case could be made that these
"big brother" steps would significantly reduce accidents, then the
benefit to society as a whole would override the individual privacy
aspects.



As for the rental car agency,
they were turning them into the state troopers, the DA then
threw the cases out of court.

Most likely a case of expectation of privacy. A joke. People have the
right to privacy so that they can break laws with a reasonable chance
of getting away with it.

Well yes & no. You are right on they can break laws, but those
same laws are there to protect you and I.

I was just remarking on how absurd it is to extend privacy rights to
allow people to facilitate the subversion of laws. You shouldn't be
allowed to hide behind the 4th amendment. The 4th amendment is there
to protect the innocent from harassments, not to give haven to
criminals.


Dave
"Sandbagger"