I consider the upper freeband to be from 25Mhz to 30Mhz... at least, I have
heard freebanders all across that 5Mhz bandwidth...

Regards,
John

"Lancer" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:03:40 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote:

I think I have been both, freebander/ham, all I think I have seen is that
the freebanders have more fun.

Also, I think the radio spectrum is for the use of all, there needs to be
a
good slice of radio spectrum set aside for freebanders, indeed, set aside
for "We the People!"

Unfortunately, the hams have just become a self-serving bunch holding much
of the spectrum to their hobby... they like nice clear spaces of spectrum
where they and a few buddies carry on conversations like old women around
a
bridge table.

Unless one feels himself a child who needs a parent telling them what they
CAN'T do--it is time for a change of thinking here...

I think the FCC needs to support radio use amongst the citizens of this
country, not a self-serving group who feel themselves more deserving and
special... I think we all need a better form of radio spectrum use--one
which conforms to the people, NOT makes the people conform to ridiculous
rules...

And, I think a whole lot more... but basically it all revolves around my
seeing hams as self-serving/control-freaks who have a good thing
going--and
are getting away with it...



Regards,
John



I thought freeband was from 26.000 MHz up to channel 1, 26.965
MHz, and from above channel 40, 27.405 MHz, to the edge of the 10
Meter ham band, 28.000 MHz.

What does that have to do with Ham radio spectrum use?

Quit doing so much thinking, you're going to hurt yourself...

Well, 6Mhz bandwidth even...

John

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
I consider the upper freeband to be from 25Mhz to 30Mhz... at least, I have
heard freebanders all across that 5Mhz bandwidth...

Regards,
John

"Lancer" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:03:40 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote:

I think I have been both, freebander/ham, all I think I have seen is that
the freebanders have more fun.

Also, I think the radio spectrum is for the use of all, there needs to be
a
good slice of radio spectrum set aside for freebanders, indeed, set aside
for "We the People!"

Unfortunately, the hams have just become a self-serving bunch holding
much
of the spectrum to their hobby... they like nice clear spaces of spectrum
where they and a few buddies carry on conversations like old women around
a
bridge table.

Unless one feels himself a child who needs a parent telling them what
they
CAN'T do--it is time for a change of thinking here...

I think the FCC needs to support radio use amongst the citizens of this
country, not a self-serving group who feel themselves more deserving and
special... I think we all need a better form of radio spectrum use--one
which conforms to the people, NOT makes the people conform to ridiculous
rules...

And, I think a whole lot more... but basically it all revolves around my
seeing hams as self-serving/control-freaks who have a good thing
going--and
are getting away with it...



Regards,
John



I thought freeband was from 26.000 MHz up to channel 1, 26.965
MHz, and from above channel 40, 27.405 MHz, to the edge of the 10
Meter ham band, 28.000 MHz.

What does that have to do with Ham radio spectrum use?

Quit doing so much thinking, you're going to hurt yourself...

On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:51:39 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote:

I consider the upper freeband to be from 25Mhz to 30Mhz... at least, I have
heard freebanders all across that 5Mhz bandwidth...

Regards,
John


I'd be willing to bet there are a lot of hams that don't even know
what "freeband" is. If freebanders stay off 10 meters, most hams
wouldn't even care..

Lancer:

I only wish you were correct. Hams are a tight-knit group which looks down
on all other radio-users, with the possible exception of gov't.

Get to know some hams in your area, I think you will find a common "control
freak" nature amongst them. If even another ham suggests possible changes
to their ancient methods they "black ball" him/her.

Most of all their activities center around a "good ole boys rationale." You
have to meet and participate with them to see just how deep this runs...

Get your ham license!!! But, play along with them, make it a mission to
study and learn about them... I think you will be back to freeband/"Chicken
Band", but you will have a greater appreciation of radio on these bands!



Regards,
John

"Lancer" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:51:39 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote:

I consider the upper freeband to be from 25Mhz to 30Mhz... at least, I
have
heard freebanders all across that 5Mhz bandwidth...

Regards,
John


I'd be willing to bet there are a lot of hams that don't even know
what "freeband" is. If freebanders stay off 10 meters, most hams
wouldn't even care..

On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:48:23 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in
:

Lancer:

I only wish you were correct. Hams are a tight-knit group which looks down
on all other radio-users, with the possible exception of gov't.

Get to know some hams in your area, I think you will find a common "control
freak" nature amongst them. If even another ham suggests possible changes
to their ancient methods they "black ball" him/her.

Most of all their activities center around a "good ole boys rationale." You
have to meet and participate with them to see just how deep this runs...


Some hams are just as you described, and need to be reminded on
occasion that they are, by definition, amateurs. But some hams don't
have that holier-than-thou attitude and are quite content belonging to
the human race. Lance fits better into the "human" category.


Get your ham license!!! But, play along with them, make it a mission to
study and learn about them... I think you will be back to freeband/"Chicken
Band", but you will have a greater appreciation of radio on these bands!


Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow
enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader
band.






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Frank Gilliland wrote:
Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow
enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader
band.

Pass the bar rag, Frank. I have some clean up to do.

On 25 Apr 2005 23:22:15 GMT, Steveo wrote in
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow
enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader
band.

Pass the bar rag, Frank. I have some clean up to do.


Spontaneous vomiting? or did you just spill your milk?





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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 25 Apr 2005 23:22:15 GMT, Steveo wrote in
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow
enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader
band.

Pass the bar rag, Frank. I have some clean up to do.

Spontaneous vomiting? or did you just spill your milk?

None of those. I'm pondering faking a trip with mapquest.

Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow
enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader
band.

Hey! You aren't one of those hams which needs a three-day observation, are
ya?

What limitations do the freebanders suffer (other than danger of being
caught and prosecution?)



Or, are you claiming they can't read?



Stay coherent here!!!



Regards,
John

"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:48:23 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in
:

Lancer:

I only wish you were correct. Hams are a tight-knit group which looks
down
on all other radio-users, with the possible exception of gov't.

Get to know some hams in your area, I think you will find a common
"control
freak" nature amongst them. If even another ham suggests possible changes
to their ancient methods they "black ball" him/her.

Most of all their activities center around a "good ole boys rationale."
You
have to meet and participate with them to see just how deep this runs...


Some hams are just as you described, and need to be reminded on
occasion that they are, by definition, amateurs. But some hams don't
have that holier-than-thou attitude and are quite content belonging to
the human race. Lance fits better into the "human" category.


Get your ham license!!! But, play along with them, make it a mission to
study and learn about them... I think you will be back to
freeband/"Chicken
Band", but you will have a greater appreciation of radio on these bands!


Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow
enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader
band.






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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:23:36 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in
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Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow
enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader
band.

Hey! You aren't one of those hams which needs a three-day observation, are
ya?


I don't think so. I would have to get a license first, wouldn't I?


What limitations do the freebanders suffer (other than danger of being
caught and prosecution?)


Ever work EME on the CB/FB? Sat-comm? RACES?


Or, are you claiming they can't read?



Stay coherent here!!!


Speaking of coherent, ever work CCW on the CB/FB?








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