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Old October 16th 05, 02:52 AM
Wayne P. Muckleroy
 
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antiquated. It was developed during a time when it was considered a miracle
that we could string wire sets for thousands of miles and (slowly)
communicate with a series of "clicks." Then the miracle of spark generators
were invented and we were really advanced because we could lose the wire
sets and communicate across the big pond.

I tend to be practical when it comes to technology. I realize the importance
of amateur radio or else I would not be spending my time in here. However,
if I need to order a pizza on my way home from work, I don't pull out my HT
and patch into the local pizzeria. I use my cell phone of course.

But, during a time of power failure or disastrous periods, obviously, the
cell will not function. So then, I would use a portable method of
communication. This does not mean I would automatically pull out my key and
start sending Morse. Most likely, I would attempt verbal contact via an HF
mode. If bandwidth is limited, I'm sure I could find other modes to use that
are almost as efficient as Morse. If all else fails, I could hook up my
lap-top, and let it do all the work--sending and receiving Morse. If on the
off chance my lap-top is dead, I could resort to manual Morse at 5 wpm. In
which case, I still don't need the stupid Morse learning software to get me
to 20, 40, 60 wpm.

I have much more important things to do with my time than practice this dead
language.

Wayne-
(KC8UIO)

co
communicatio
"Has" wrote in message
...

"Sigurd Stenersen" wrote in message
...
Wayne P. Muckleroy wrote:
"Sigurd Stenersen" wrote in message
I decided to make a contribution to the continued use of Morse code,
and have created a computer program that makes it easy to learn the
code. The program can be downloaded from
http://justlearnmorsecode.com If you like the program, please make the
URL known to the members of
your club and anybody else that might be interested.

Also, comments and suggestions are very welcome.

Morse is dead...hang it up!


I don't know your reasoning for making a statement like that, but no
matter what it is it applies to ham radio in general. What do you need
ham radio for in the first place ? A cell phone is all you need to talk
to anybody, anywhere, anytime.

So what are you doing here on the ham radio newsgroups in the first place
?



Indeed.

-has



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Old October 16th 05, 03:01 AM
Dean Norris
 
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:52:52 GMT, "Wayne P. Muckleroy"
wrote:

antiquated. It was developed during a time when it was considered a miracle
that we could string wire sets for thousands of miles and (slowly)
communicate with a series of "clicks." Then the miracle of spark generators
were invented and we were really advanced because we could lose the wire
sets and communicate across the big pond.

I tend to be practical when it comes to technology. I realize the importance
of amateur radio or else I would not be spending my time in here. However,
if I need to order a pizza on my way home from work, I don't pull out my HT
and patch into the local pizzeria. I use my cell phone of course.

But, during a time of power failure or disastrous periods, obviously, the
cell will not function. So then, I would use a portable method of
communication. This does not mean I would automatically pull out my key and
start sending Morse. Most likely, I would attempt verbal contact via an HF
mode. If bandwidth is limited, I'm sure I could find other modes to use that
are almost as efficient as Morse. If all else fails, I could hook up my
lap-top, and let it do all the work--sending and receiving Morse. If on the
off chance my lap-top is dead, I could resort to manual Morse at 5 wpm. In
which case, I still don't need the stupid Morse learning software to get me
to 20, 40, 60 wpm.

I have much more important things to do with my time than practice this dead
language.

Wayne-
(KC8UIO)


Well, la-de-dah! That's norris code for who gives a ****. I happen
to enjoy code. You do your thing, I'll do mine.

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Old October 16th 05, 03:06 AM
Sigurd Stenersen
 
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Wayne P. Muckleroy wrote:
antiquated. It was developed during a time when it was considered a
miracle that we could string wire sets for thousands of miles and
(slowly) communicate with a series of "clicks." Then the miracle of
spark generators were invented and we were really advanced because we
could lose the wire sets and communicate across the big pond.

I tend to be practical when it comes to technology. I realize the
importance of amateur radio or else I would not be spending my time
in here. However, if I need to order a pizza on my way home from
work, I don't pull out my HT and patch into the local pizzeria. I use
my cell phone of course.
But, during a time of power failure or disastrous periods, obviously,
the cell will not function. So then, I would use a portable method of
communication. This does not mean I would automatically pull out my
key and start sending Morse. Most likely, I would attempt verbal
contact via an HF mode. If bandwidth is limited, I'm sure I could
find other modes to use that are almost as efficient as Morse. If all
else fails, I could hook up my lap-top, and let it do all the
work--sending and receiving Morse. If on the off chance my lap-top is
dead, I could resort to manual Morse at 5 wpm. In which case, I still
don't need the stupid Morse learning software to get me to 20, 40, 60
wpm.
I have much more important things to do with my time than practice
this dead language.

Wayne-
(KC8UIO)


Wayne, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but you really are an
idiot.

Now go order yourself a pizza with your HF voice rig or something. You're
clearly a very efficient guy, so why waste your time arguing about a
technology that you don't want to spend any time on ?


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd


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Old October 16th 05, 10:06 AM
Wayne P. Muckleroy
 
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....for calling me an idiot and then wishing me 73. Somehow, I doubt your
sincerity.

Don't worry...I have not wasted any time on code. The only time I spent on
code was the two weeks I needed to get to 5 wpm. This was to pass the code
element in the States.

My sincere thanks to Samuel and Guglielmo for their contributions to
communication technology. Thank God that their pioneering efforts have lead
the way to much more! Goodbye clicks, dots, and dashes. Hello ones and
zeros.

Wayne-
(KC8UIO)

"Sigurd Stenersen" wrote in message
...
Wayne P. Muckleroy wrote:
antiquated. It was developed during a time when it was considered a
miracle that we could string wire sets for thousands of miles and
(slowly) communicate with a series of "clicks." Then the miracle of
spark generators were invented and we were really advanced because we
could lose the wire sets and communicate across the big pond.

I tend to be practical when it comes to technology. I realize the
importance of amateur radio or else I would not be spending my time
in here. However, if I need to order a pizza on my way home from
work, I don't pull out my HT and patch into the local pizzeria. I use
my cell phone of course.
But, during a time of power failure or disastrous periods, obviously,
the cell will not function. So then, I would use a portable method of
communication. This does not mean I would automatically pull out my
key and start sending Morse. Most likely, I would attempt verbal
contact via an HF mode. If bandwidth is limited, I'm sure I could
find other modes to use that are almost as efficient as Morse. If all
else fails, I could hook up my lap-top, and let it do all the
work--sending and receiving Morse. If on the off chance my lap-top is
dead, I could resort to manual Morse at 5 wpm. In which case, I still
don't need the stupid Morse learning software to get me to 20, 40, 60
wpm.
I have much more important things to do with my time than practice
this dead language.

Wayne-
(KC8UIO)


Wayne, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but you really are an
idiot.

Now go order yourself a pizza with your HF voice rig or something. You're
clearly a very efficient guy, so why waste your time arguing about a
technology that you don't want to spend any time on ?


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd



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Old October 16th 05, 11:43 AM
Jerseyj
 
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In article ,
stuff cut

Too band there isn't a Linux or MacOS version!

Oh, and you can change settings during a session (while Morse code is being
sent).


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd




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Old October 16th 05, 12:30 PM
Dee Flint
 
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"Wayne P. Muckleroy" wrote in message
.. .
...for calling me an idiot and then wishing me 73. Somehow, I doubt your
sincerity.

Don't worry...I have not wasted any time on code. The only time I spent on
code was the two weeks I needed to get to 5 wpm. This was to pass the code
element in the States.

My sincere thanks to Samuel and Guglielmo for their contributions to
communication technology. Thank God that their pioneering efforts have
lead the way to much more! Goodbye clicks, dots, and dashes. Hello ones
and zeros.

Wayne-
(KC8UIO)


You do realize of course that, since you do not intend to do anything
further with the morse code skill, learning it to only 5wpm is not
sufficient to retain the knowledge and it will not be available to you
should you ever need.

You do realize of course that the ones and zeros modes become unuseable when
there are auroras, thunderstorms, geomagnetic disturbances, etc.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


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Old October 16th 05, 01:25 PM
Sigurd Stenersen
 
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Wayne P. Muckleroy wrote:
"Sigurd Stenersen" wrote in message
...
Wayne P. Muckleroy wrote:
If on the off chance my lap-top is dead, I could resort to manual
Morse at 5 wpm. In which case, I still don't need


the stupid Morse learning software


to get me to 20, 40, 60 wpm.
I have much more important things to do with my time than practice
this dead language.

Wayne, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but you really are
an idiot.


[Thanks...]
...for calling me an idiot and then wishing me 73. Somehow, I doubt
your sincerity.


Actually, I didn't really mean that you're an idiot so you're right about
that. Me calling you an idiot was a response to you referring to my work as
"stupid morse learning software".

Of course you are entitled to think whatever you want about anything.
Still, it seems selfish at best to be that condescending about other peoples
interests and hard work just because it doesn't fit YOUR abilities to learn
and become interested.


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd


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Old October 16th 05, 01:33 PM
Sigurd Stenersen
 
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Jerseyj wrote:
Too band there isn't a Linux or MacOS version!


Well, this is a hobby project and I have to select how I want to spend the
little time I have for hobbies. Currently, I choose to add more features to
Just Learn Morse Code and later I might want to spend some time on regular
ham activities rather than just extending my working hours without being
paid...

One user reported that the executable runs just fine on Linux under the WINE
emulator, tho.


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd
http://justlearnmorsecode.com


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Old October 16th 05, 03:10 PM
VE3PMK
 
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There are lots of nice code programs for MacOS.

Just go to www.google.com/mac and type morse code software in the search
string.

Sorry, can't help you on Linux, but I'm sure they're out there also.

As to the bashing of morse code, if a group of people wanted to play
with communication via smoke signals or tin cans connected with yarn,
it's difficult to understand the mindset of another group who chooses to
flame them for it. Peculiar thinking indeed. Why not flame those
microwave guys who drive around from mountain top to mountain top with
their feed horns and tripods? Perhaps it's because if they enjoy doing
it then all the power to them! It's all about what you enjoy in the
hobby, and if some like morse and others like microwave and yet others
enjoy APRS... hurrah for all of them. Have fun and let others have their
fun too.

VE3PMK





Jerseyj wrote:
In article ,
stuff cut

Too band there isn't a Linux or MacOS version!

Oh, and you can change settings during a session (while Morse code is being
sent).


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd


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Old October 16th 05, 03:17 PM
Dan Richardson
 
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:33:32 +0200, "Sigurd Stenersen"
wrote:

Jerseyj wrote:
Too band there isn't a Linux or MacOS version!


Well, this is a hobby project and I have to select how I want to spend the
little time I have for hobbies. Currently, I choose to add more features to
Just Learn Morse Code and later I might want to spend some time on regular
ham activities rather than just extending my working hours without being
paid...

Sigurd,

I've been following this for awhile and I find it ironic that someone
takes the time to create a piece of software and then offer it free to
anyone who would like to use it only to have a bunch of complainers
giving you flak that they don't like it or aren't getting there monies
worth.

Thank you for your efforts and providing it free in the best of
amateur radio traditions.

Very 73,
Danny, K6MHE


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