"Dave Heil" wrote in message
...
N2EY wrote:

btw, thinking of departed rrap folk, it occurred to me that I probably
hold the
record for most rrapper's QSO'd. Anybody beat this list?:

K8MN
W4NTI
K0HB
AC6XG
K3LT
K4YZ
W3RV
W6RCA
W0EX
WA2SI

73 de Jim, N2EY

I think you have the record. I've worked four from the list and you.

Dave K8MN

Ditto, I have two from the list plus Jim. I'm certainly looking for more
tho...7037 @ 0100z anybody?

Vy 73 de Bert
FISTS #9384
QRP ARCI #11782

Then On 13 Sep 2004 10:10:07 GMT, PAMNO (N2EY) wrote:

In article , Gareeb
writes:

Come to think of it, it occurs to me that there may be a relationship
between aol'ers and those who can't learn code. Hmmmm....

Hmmmm....I use AOL, and I learned and use Morse Code.


There are exceptions...I merely said there 'may' be a 'relationship'
in the statistical sense, certainly not the absolute sense. Did you
learn code only to pass the test? Can you still do 15wpm? Do you beat
your wife? See, there are many other considerations to factor in.

On 13 Sep 2004 10:10:08 GMT, PAMNO (N2EY) wrote:

In article ,
(Hans K0HB) writes:

Cecil is a grown boy (he's been licensed since even before Len was a
sojer), a free thinker, and not at all the type to be "dogged" into
doing something he doesn't want to by a bunch of twits on rrap.

Yep.

Also I'm not sure why you call him a *******. Most everyone here, on
both sides of the Morse question, respect him as a "stand up" sort of
guy who voices his views in reasoned language without resorting to
personal attacks.

He's the sort of person who does what he says he's going to do, which is just
another example of how "stand up" guys act. He said he'd be there on 7037, and
he was. More then once, too. He said Morse Code was his favorite fun mode, and
he demonstrated that he does indeed use it and enjoy it.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I think Cecil was self-adulating crank but that is only my (most)
humble opinion. He certainly was not the genius he made himself out to
be but hey, no one who ever makes that claim is. No one who claims to
be in mensa ever really is. There were only two really intelligent
people in this group, both of whom were anti-code and whom I utterly
detested: Todd Little and Gary (you make 'em we break 'em) Coleman.

Is there a way to tell what class has the most vanity call signs? If I
had to bet, I would say the Tech, I wonder if they just want people to
think they have been hams a long time? I do understand a few have calls
that were their fathers, elmers, mothers, ect. Some even have calls that
are their initials, most of those start k7*** not N7*** , but most I
have asked and they say just cause?

N2EY wrote:
These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed:

As of May 14, 2000:

Novice - 49,329
Technician - 205,394
Technician Plus - 128,860
General - 112,677
Advanced - 99,782
Extra - 78,750

Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254

Total all classes - 674,792

As of September 4, 2004:

Novice - 30,510 (decrease of 18,819)
Technician - 263,752 (increase of 58,358)
Technician Plus - 57,119 (decrease of 71,741)
General - 139,064 (increase of 26,387)
Advanced - 78,968 (decrease of 20,814)
Extra - 105,739 (increase of 26,989)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 320,871 (decrease of 13,383)

Total all classes - 675,152 (increase of 360)

73 de Jim, N2EY

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:10:14 GMT, Gareeb wrote:

On 13 Sep 2004 10:10:08 GMT, PAMNO (N2EY) wrote:

In article ,
(Hans K0HB) writes:

Cecil is a grown boy (he's been licensed since even before Len was a
sojer), a free thinker, and not at all the type to be "dogged" into
doing something he doesn't want to by a bunch of twits on rrap.

Yep.

Also I'm not sure why you call him a *******. Most everyone here, on
both sides of the Morse question, respect him as a "stand up" sort of
guy who voices his views in reasoned language without resorting to
personal attacks.

He's the sort of person who does what he says he's going to do, which is just
another example of how "stand up" guys act. He said he'd be there on 7037, and
he was. More then once, too. He said Morse Code was his favorite fun mode, and
he demonstrated that he does indeed use it and enjoy it.

73 de Jim, N2EY

I think Cecil was self-adulating crank but that is only my (most)
humble opinion. He certainly was not the genius he made himself out to
be but hey, no one who ever makes that claim is. No one who claims to
be in mensa ever really is. There were only two really intelligent
people in this group, both of whom were anti-code and whom I utterly
detested: Todd Little and Gary (you make 'em we break 'em) Coleman.

I mean, Coffman. Gary Coffman. A true intellectual smartass.

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Brian Kelly) writes:

(William) wrote in message
.com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message
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In article ,
(William) writes:

Cecil is off in other newsgroups. I'm sure he got sick and tired
of the PCTA regulars in here. :-)

Welp, he tried to appease them by joining in one of their CW nets, but
they still crapped on him. Then he joined them, but was so distraught
by that action he left the group.


********
BULL**** you lying and utterly inconseqential Putzlet!!!
********

You really do need to pop for that tome on "recovering from assholism"
and read it as many times as it takes to get it's message.

Ah...another "civil discourse" PCTA extra heard from. :-)

Civil discourse is RAGING throughout the news group!

Heh. All they have is RAGE. :-)

The running of the bulls. Gore is the result.

Kellie seems to have roared after building up more steam in his
mighty catapult!

Tsk.

He should put a whistle on that steam valve.

Nah. We already heard his boiler blow up some while ago.

Amazing what a little tin whistle will do.

Then there's the guy running around here with a little tin star.

So, three years ago all of four CW-using-fans made a "net" after
arranging the contact time and frequency through the newsgroup?

Wow. Great "pioneering" of the airwaves...plus awarding "best of"
ratings for the four (or was it five?).

Yep goading an NCI member into operating during a thunderstorm. They
learned nothing from Ben Franklin.

Ben who? What was his call? Hi hi. :-)

4BEN

He came along long before all of the K/W hoopla. Originated "spark."
I think he actually communicated with God. God told him to forget the
on/off keying scenario. Original Sin. We've been paying for it ever
since.

Did the "net" all with CW to show "CW isn't dead!" :-)

Well, that just goes to show everyone that ALL newbies on HF
MUST learn CW in order to be in company with Giants of the Air!

Marvelous "reasoning." Too much seasoning. A broth of frosh oar.

:-)



Len, go easy on them. It's all they know.

I AM being easy on them! :-)

I know, I know. But it's just so unfair. Try tying half of your
brain behind your back, or load up on Oxycotin.

Poor babies can't take return fire in here.

Like it or not, th[ie]'re going to get it.

PCTA extra Double Standard has to be invoked to "justify" (rationalize)
their position.

Expect more raging nastygrams from them PCTAs. :-)



All those nastygrams. Th[ie]'re probably running out of USMC Form 1.

Gareeb wrote:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:10:14 GMT, Gareeb wrote:

I think Cecil was self-adulating crank but that is only my (most)
humble opinion. He certainly was not the genius he made himself out to
be but hey, no one who ever makes that claim is. No one who claims to
be in mensa ever really is. There were only two really intelligent
people in this group, both of whom were anti-code and whom I utterly
detested: Todd Little and Gary (you make 'em we break 'em) Coleman.

I mean, Coffman. Gary Coffman. A true intellectual smartass.

I thought you did pretty well the first time around, though I never
thought of any of those you mentioned as being gifted.

Dave K8MN

(William) wrote in message . com...
(Brian Kelly) wrote in message m...
(William) wrote in message . com...

I jumped in at that point and tossed out
a proposal for any and all RRAP lurkers able to do so to gather around
7.037 Mhz some night or another so that Cecil could firmy establish
the fact that he's CW-capable. Which he did and we did. In spades.

But, but, but...

you said that Cecil hisself triggered the net. Then you say you
proposed it.

Hmmmm?

We all know that you consistently manage to add two and two and
usually get seven something so I'll try again: Cecil was looking for a
40M CW contact with another RRAPer. Which is what TRIGGERED the
proposal for the gathering on 7037 that night.

Cecil suffers a sort of palsy which makes using any sort of keying
widget difficult to operate so he uses a straight key. He showed up on
the freq during a nasty T-storm that nite but never missed a lick.

So you figger he was lying about the palsy or what?


Bilge. Typical mindless, transparent Burke duck the bullet maneuver.

Again.

Net result has been a helluva lot of ongoing respect for Cecil's CW
and technical skills and doggedness amongst us PCTAs.

You don't make any sense at all. You dogged him for years for not
being a PCTA.

Hey Burke, treat yourself to a dictionary and find out what the
differences are between "dogedness" and "dogged". After, of course,
after you take remedial reading comprehension 101.

Again.

He switches and then he's Golden! with fond, fond memories posted
below.


Cecil didn't "switch" anything, a bunch of us PCTAs worked Cecil, a
NCTA and a good time was had by all, nothing more, nothing less Burke.
Better luck the next time you you try to twist documented reality by
lying about it.

You guys dogged the poor ******* so much that he risked his property
and his life to prove that he was Morse Worthy.

You guys ought to be proud.

Actually yes we are. Sorry you weren't there to join that exercise
Burke but we understand, you can't put up HF antennas because you have
kids. Slick excuse that one is, quite creative, blame your lack of
performance on yer kids.

w3rv

In article , Gareeb
writes:

Then On 13 Sep 2004 10:10:07 GMT, PAMNO (N2EY) wrote:

In article , Gareeb
writes:

Come to think of it, it occurs to me that there may be a relationship
between aol'ers and those who can't learn code. Hmmmm....

Hmmmm....I use AOL, and I learned and use Morse Code.

There are exceptions...

Yep, I'm one of 'em. There are lots more.

I merely said there 'may' be a 'relationship'
in the statistical sense, certainly not the absolute sense.

Of course.

Did you
learn code only to pass the test?

At first. I became a ham 37 years ago in large part because I wanted to join
the folks on 75 AM. But once I was exposed to the code and used it on the air,
I found I liked it, and just kept on using it. Wound up passing all six code
tests (5/13/20 wpm, sending and receiving).

Can you still do 15wpm?

Oh yes. More than double that, in fact. Also much less. 5-40 wpm or
thereabouts, what ever the situation calls for.

Do you beat
your wife?

I haven't mentioned marital status here. Not relevant. But I don't beat anyone.


See, there are many other considerations to factor in.

Such as?

73 de Jim, N2EY

In article , whoever whoever@wherever
writes:

Is there a way to tell what class has the most vanity call signs?

Yes, but it's not easy.

The license database information includes various letter codes - you can see
them in QRZ.com. For example, "HVAE". I don't recall all of the codes but one
of them indicates whether the call was issued under the 'modern' vanity call
program.

So all you need do is download the entire database, filter through the info for
license class and vanity, and there you are.

If I
had to bet, I would say the Tech, I wonder if they just want people to
think they have been hams a long time?

I'd say it has more to do with not wanting a six-character callsign. They can
be long and unwieldy. I had six-character callsigns for the first 10 years I
was a ham, and a shorter call has definite advantages. But my callsign was not
issued under the modern vanity program.

I do understand a few have calls
that were their fathers, elmers, mothers, ect. Some even have calls that
are their initials, most of those start k7*** not N7*** , but most I
have asked and they say just cause?

Why not?

If you don't like the callsign blocks available to the various license classes,
you can petition FCC to change them.

73 de Jim, N2EY

(sequentially issued 1977)