William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
N2EY wrote:

btw, thinking of departed rrap folk, it occurred to me that I probably hold the
record for most rrapper's QSO'd. Anybody beat this list?:

K8MN
W4NTI
K0HB
AC6XG
K3LT
K4YZ
W3RV
W6RCA
W0EX
WA2SI

73 de Jim, N2EY

I think you have the record. I've worked four from the list and you.

Dave K8MN

You've worked me a couple of times.

I worked you as K8MN? Nope, not even on SSB. NIL.

Dave K8MN

Then it must have been another David Heil or a slim with the same name
and QSL manager. Sorry to have mentioned it.

I do not and have not used a QSL manager for my operations as K8MN.

Who is K8MN? I'm talking about David Heil. Ever heard of him? Does
he use a QSL Manager?

Your cutesy-stupid routine can run only so long, "William". I'm certain
that you can read after a fashion; otherwise you'd be unable to respond
without dragging a family member in for a "what's this say?" session.

Take your time in digesting the material. Soak it all up. Absorb it.
I've never sent a "David Heil" QSL. All my operations have taken place
from a given spot with a given callsign.

How about a lengthy yarn about your operation as T5/Brian?

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
N2EY wrote:

btw, thinking of departed rrap folk, it occurred to me that I probably hold the
record for most rrapper's QSO'd. Anybody beat this list?:

K8MN
W4NTI
K0HB
AC6XG
K3LT
K4YZ
W3RV
W6RCA
W0EX
WA2SI

73 de Jim, N2EY

I think you have the record. I've worked four from the list and you.

Dave K8MN

You've worked me a couple of times.

I worked you as K8MN? Nope, not even on SSB. NIL.

Dave K8MN

Then it must have been another David Heil or a slim with the same name
and QSL manager. Sorry to have mentioned it.

I do not and have not used a QSL manager for my operations as K8MN.

Who is K8MN? I'm talking about David Heil. Ever heard of him? Does
he use a QSL Manager?

Your cutesy-stupid routine can run only so long, "William".

Hello???

Is that anything like your cutesy-stupid "CQ Magazine as a Membership
Organization" routine?

I'm certain
that you can read after a fashion; otherwise you'd be unable to respond
without dragging a family member in for a "what's this say?" session.

When you used the noun "I", as in "I've worked four from the list and
you," I must have wrongly assumed that you meant yourself, as in David
Heil.

Did you use surrogates at your DX operations?

Take your time in digesting the material. Soak it all up. Absorb it.

No thanks. Your material is toxic.

I've never sent a "David Heil" QSL.

Given that you have a QSL Manager, I suppose that is possible.

All my operations have taken place
from a given spot with a given callsign.

Try mobile operation sometime, Oh Greatest of Hams!

How about a lengthy yarn about your operation as T5/Brian?

Dave K8MN

How about a ditty on "how to" on snagging rare, out-of-band, French
Hams on 6M?

Sheesh! I think you are more indignant about working me on HF than
you were about me leaving you off of the A1A Op list. Doesn't matter.
You'll always find something to become indignant about.

Best of Luck

These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed:

As of May 14, 2000:

Novice - 49,329
Technician - 205,394
Technician Plus - 128,860
General - 112,677
Advanced - 99,782
Extra - 78,750

Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254

Total all classes - 674,792

As of September 15, 2004:

Novice - 30,349 (decrease of 18,980)
Technician - 263,613 (increase of 58,219)
Technician Plus - 56,802 (decrease of 72,058)
General - 138,738 (increase of 26,061)
Advanced - 78,765 (decrease of 21,017)
Extra - 105,727 (increase of 26,977)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 320,415 (decrease of 13,839)

Total all classes - 673,994 (decrease of 798)

This is the first time a decrease in the total number of individual
licenses has been observed since the restructuring of April 15, 2000.

73 de Jim, N2EY

"N2EY" wrote in message
om...
These are the number of unexpired FCC ARS
licenses held by individuals on the dates listed:

As of May 14, 2000:

Novice - 49,329
Technician - 205,394
Technician Plus - 128,860
General - 112,677
Advanced - 99,782
Extra - 78,750

Total Tech/TechPlus - 334,254

Total all classes - 674,792

As of September 15, 2004:

Novice - 30,349 (decrease of 18,980)
Technician - 263,613 (increase of 58,219)
Technician Plus - 56,802 (decrease of 72,058)
General - 138,738 (increase of 26,061)
Advanced - 78,765 (decrease of 21,017)
Extra - 105,727 (increase of 26,977)

Total Tech/TechPlus - 320,415 (decrease of 13,839)

Total all classes - 673,994 (decrease of 798)

This is the first time a decrease in the total number of individual
licenses has been observed since the restructuring of April 15, 2000.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Interesting. Someone needs to make it clear to the overall population that
with the reduction of the code requirement to 5wpm across the board (none
for Tech) that they were supposed to jump into ham radio in overwhelming
numbers and lead to magnificent growth in the number of hams.

Jim, any way to determine whether the decrease is due primarily to drop outs
or to silent keys?

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Subject: ARS License Numbers
From: "Dee D. Flint"
Date: 9/16/2004 10:40 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Jim, any way to determine whether the decrease is due primarily to drop outs
or to silent keys?

The only way to determine that for sure would be the SK lists in QST.
Even if a license is returned to the FCC by the NOK, it will still be posted as
"CANCELLED". The FCC doesn't state why.

73

Steve, K4YZ

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote in message
...
Subject: ARS License Numbers
From: "Dee D. Flint"
Date: 9/16/2004 10:40 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Jim, any way to determine whether the decrease is due primarily to drop
outs
or to silent keys?

The only way to determine that for sure would be the SK lists in QST.
Even if a license is returned to the FCC by the NOK, it will still be
posted as
"CANCELLED". The FCC doesn't state why.

73

Steve, K4YZ


The database does distinguish between canceled and expired. Unfortunately,
this doesn't help. Expirations occur due to lack of action by the ham at
renewal time but the ham can be living or dead. Cancellations occur due to
action on the part of someone but that action can be by the ham, next of kin
if deceased, or the FCC as a penalty.

I don't think the SK list would necessarily be that accurate. Someone has
to send them the info before they can publish it.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

(William) wrote in message om...
(Brian Kelly) wrote in message . com...
(William) wrote in message . com...

He switches and then he's Golden! with fond, fond memories posted
below.


Cecil didn't "switch" anything,

The hell he didn't. He resigned his NCI membership.

Really? I obviously missed that one. Good for him.

a bunch of us PCTAs worked Cecil, a
NCTA and a good time was had by all, nothing more, nothing less Burke.
Better luck the next time you you try to twist documented reality by
lying about it.

No lie. He became a Code Exam Advocate after you guys dogged him for years.

Nah, you know full well that Cecil dogging-proof Burke. If the results
of that nite had anything to do with his change in thinking, which I
seriously doubt, it was because us coders did real ham radio with him
and not your "RRAP is my ham radio" nonsense.

You guys dogged the poor ******* so much that he risked his property
and his life to prove that he was Morse Worthy.

You guys ought to be proud.

Actually yes we are.

Why am I not suprised?

Sorry you weren't there to join that exercise

No you're not.

Congratulations Burke, you finally got something right.


Burke but we understand, you can't put up HF antennas because you have
kids. Slick excuse that one is, quite creative, blame your lack of
performance on yer kids.

w3rv

Where did that come from? You must be losing your mental faculties.

Right here Burke.

A post in 2002:

- - - -

"Brian P Burke" wrote in message igy.com...
"Brian Kelly" wrote in message
om...
"Brian P Burke" wrote in message news:nQsR8.1597

Ooops. It's for a ground mounted antenna with radials.

It isn't "ground mounted" it's FED at ground level.

How is it supported?

The 1/4 WL flattop is supported, typically, between two trees. The 1/4
vertical portion drops straight down the tuner from one end of the
flattop. Do you have ANY literature on ham antennas??

Brian, you must still be thinking that I live in your house in Philadelphia.
I don't have trees in my yard. Its newer construction with a few ornamental
trees. But I mwentioned that already.

And it drops straight down to the tuner, huh?

Didn't I tell you that I have small children and don't want a ground mounted
antenna? (YES)

**There it is Burke. Blaming your little kids for not being able to
get on the air.**

**By the way, did you take yer kids to T5 and couldn't put up an
antenna there either? ? Izzat why nobody ever worked NoMind/T5?**

Ya flaming nitwit, you had no clue what an inverted L is until myself
and others patiently and labororiously explained it to you over many
early posts in this thread before you finally got the drift. That
ain't gonna happen agn on my part. At which point you finally decided
an L wouldn't be a solution for you. If you had half a brain you would
have posted a request for advice on antennas at the outset and
provided the specific installation limitations you have which you
eventually revealed late in this idiotic game. Ed asked you what your
installation conditions were but you ignored his offer and went back
to mindlessly hammering yer keyboard here instead.


But of course as we all know you don't have half a brain so
predictably your history has repeated itself. Somebody gotta be the
dunce around here so I guess you'll hafta do until Kim "un-retires"
from RRAP agn.

Let me read a little further and see what else you don't get.

We're still waiting . . .

Why do the other people on here put up with your ****ty little answers?

For the same reasons they have no choice but to put up with your
hopeless lack of mental horspower and/or the most fundamental
technical smarts. Which you compulsively display in gross volumes.

Brian, have a nice life.


Been there, done that, great life this, HF antennas being the
no-brainers that they are.


Oh, and by the way: I had a 135' L up for decades. 110ft x 50ft urban
lot. Tuner was a couple feet above grade in the back yard. Could get a
1:1 match outta the thing on any freq between around 3 to maybe 15 Mhz
by simply twisting a turns counter in the shack. Glomed 40% of my
5BDXCC with that inverted L. Not a tree in sight either.

During those decades my three daughters arrived and grew up with that
tuner in their back yard. The yard was kid magnet, pool, monster
homebrewed swingset, homebrewed 8' x 16' sandbox. There were times
when I counted 15 and more of the 2-10 year old set going at it only a
few feet from the tuner.


I'd "kid proofed" the tuner. Involved some intelligent design. That
drops you outta any further discourse on the matter. Stick to rubber
duckies Burke, everything else is over your head. What little there is
of it.


73, Brian


w3rv

- - - -

You can wriggle and you can squirm Burke but you can't help hanging
yourself by your own petard, you were born to shoot both of your feet
as often as you can in public. That's just the way you are.

w3rv

In article , "Dee D. Flint"
writes:

Total all classes - 673,994 (decrease of 798)

This is the first time a decrease in the total number of individual
licenses has been observed since the restructuring of April 15, 2000.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Interesting.

Very!

Someone needs to make it clear to the overall population that
with the reduction of the code requirement to 5wpm across the board (none
for Tech) that they were supposed to jump into ham radio in overwhelming
numbers and lead to magnificent growth in the number of hams.

Or maybe it wasn't the code test after all....

Jim, any way to determine whether the decrease is due primarily to drop outs
or to silent keys?

Not really. Here's why:

1) The "Silent Key" listing in QST isn't necessarily complete nor timely. Many
hams pass away and are not recorded in that column, because it depends on
proper documentation. Which also takes time.

2) FCC also requires documentation to cancel a license due to death. So unless
somebody sends in the right paperwork, the license is simply allowed to run its
term. In an extreme case, a ham could send in renewal paperwork, pass away on
the way home from the mailbox, and yet be carried on the FCC database for 12
more years - 10 of them as an active licensee.

3) Changes in the renewal process and the 10 year license term mean that many
hams are unwittingly letting their licenses expire, then renewing in the grace
period. You only have a 90 day window at the end of a 10 year term to renew
without being counted as an expiration. (Of course you have two years to reup
after the license runs out, and you'll get the same call, etc.)

73 de Jim, N2EY

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Brian Kelly) writes:

(William) wrote in message
.com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(William) writes:

Cecil is off in other newsgroups. I'm sure he got sick and
tired
of the PCTA regulars in here. :-)

Welp, he tried to appease them by joining in one of their CW nets,
but
they still crapped on him. Then he joined them, but was so
distraught
by that action he left the group.


********
BULL**** you lying and utterly inconseqential Putzlet!!!
********

You really do need to pop for that tome on "recovering from assholism"
and read it as many times as it takes to get it's message.

Ah...another "civil discourse" PCTA extra heard from. :-)

Civil discourse is RAGING throughout the news group!

Heh. All they have is RAGE. :-)

The running of the bulls. Gore is the result.

Tell that to the Florida vote-counters. :-)

Think of this place as "PCTA Pampalona East" with all the bull
running loose...

Like an open sewer.

Kellie seems to have roared after building up more steam in his
mighty catapult!

Tsk.

He should put a whistle on that steam valve.

Nah. We already heard his boiler blow up some while ago.

Amazing what a little tin whistle will do.

Isn't it tweet? :-)

He was on here just the other day calling names.

Then there's the guy running around here with a little tin star.

The Sheriff of Nothing Ham.

"Show me your Papers!" Hi hi.

Said he took a couple of days off.

So did Darkguard and Quitefeind.

So, three years ago all of four CW-using-fans made a "net" after
arranging the contact time and frequency through the newsgroup?

Wow. Great "pioneering" of the airwaves...plus awarding "best of"
ratings for the four (or was it five?).

Yep goading an NCI member into operating during a thunderstorm. They
learned nothing from Ben Franklin.

Ben who? What was his call? Hi hi. :-)

4BEN

I heard of that Project...

Ben Heard?

He came along long before all of the K/W hoopla. Originated "spark."
I think he actually communicated with God. God told him to forget the
on/off keying scenario. Original Sin. We've been paying for it ever
since.

Bless me Hiram for I have beeped...

Did the "net" all with CW to show "CW isn't dead!" :-)

Well, that just goes to show everyone that ALL newbies on HF
MUST learn CW in order to be in company with Giants of the Air!

Marvelous "reasoning." Too much seasoning. A broth of frosh oar.

:-)



Len, go easy on them. It's all they know.

I AM being easy on them! :-)

I know, I know. But it's just so unfair. Try tying half of your
brain behind your back, or load up on Oxycotin.

I'll contact Canada for a refill...

Get some catgut guitar strings while you're at it.

Poor babies can't take return fire in here.

Like it or not, th[ie]'re going to get it.

They've gotten it...but don't realize their wounds are terminal.

And they won't until the actuarial arrives.

PCTA extra Double Standard has to be invoked to "justify" (rationalize)
their position.

Expect more raging nastygrams from them PCTAs. :-)



All those nastygrams. Th[ie]'re probably running out of USMC Form 1.

"Form 1?"

TP.

Must have changed flightline procedure quite a bit since I last walked
a tarmac. :-)

Not really, not much. But the CAP pilot wants us to think so. Makes him special.

Oops. I didn't stay on-topic of AMATEUR RADIO! The CAP might
pull a dawn raid on my residence! Or "steve and the boys" will
erect a burning ARRL logo on my front lawn...

Tsk.

He's too much of a whiner to have "boys."

They'd probably abuse him for shooting off his mouth allatime.

.

bb

In article , "Dee D. Flint"
writes:

The database does distinguish between canceled and expired. Unfortunately,
this doesn't help. Expirations occur due to lack of action by the ham at
renewal time but the ham can be living or dead. Cancellations occur due to
action on the part of someone but that action can be by the ham, next of kin
if deceased, or the FCC as a penalty.

Yep - and they're relatively few.

I don't think the SK list would necessarily be that accurate. Someone has
to send them the info before they can publish it.

Because of some really poor attempts at practical jokes, both ARRL and FCC
require some particular paperwork to consider a ham truly SK. Thus a
cancellation and/or SK notice may appear quite a while after the ham has gone
to the Big Hamshack.

73 de Jim, N2EY