Clint wrote:


DICK, what was past is past.


My grandfather (God rest his soul, he passed away
7 years ago) lived to the ripe old age of 87. Every now
and then he'd get really drunk on vodka, and then go
into a past-recalling delirium where he'd keep talking
about the need to have a horse and buggy give you a
ride if you wanted to make it back into his neck of
the woods all the way from the main road.

The next morning he'd sober up and find himself back
in the modern day era. The horse and buggy were long
gone.

I always love a tale which attempts to impart a message. In this one,
we learned that your grandad was a drunk.

Dave K8MN

In article , "Arnie Macy"
writes:

"Len Over 21" wrote in part ...

I snipped theother droll parts, but this I found interesting

According to the US Census Bureau, there are over 100 million cellular
telephone subscribers in the USA. There are over 150 million "hard-wired"
telephones in the USA. What is the point of your little "viable technology"
diatribe? And why in the hell aren't you OUT THERE being ten kinds of EM
manager with impending doom/disaster from Isabel?
_________________________________________________ __________________

My point exactly, Len. Why waste all that money on hard-wired technology
when we have nearly as many wireless phones already. Put that archaic
technology to bed, right? Isn't that your mantra?

No. I just want to toss the morse code test in the dumpster where it
rightfully belongs.

As to technology, you seem to think that anything invented/discovered
after 1933 as "high tech."

You've proved yourself woefully IGNORANT of radio technology twice today
by claiming "SSB is 103 years old."

This isn't 1912 and the year of the Titanic disaster. Radio has improved
since then. Most radio amateurs have improved since then. You don't
seem to have learned anything correctly.

And once again, I really do appreciate your concern for my job performance.
I'll make sure to tell my boss that you asked. :-)

I'm not "concerned" about your "job performance." If you are taking money
from the USA for your "EMA" task, then I'd say you are busy Fleecing
America. Here you are claiming all that "hard work" and you are busy
Internetting while Isabel makes landfall.

You are a half century behind on demonstrated knowledge of radio
technology and what you have learned seems to be all wrong as far as
chronology is involved.

LHA

In article , "Arnie Macy"
writes:

"Len Over 21" wrote in part ...

You KNOW all elmers personally, right? Why don't YOU continue to alienate
and denigrate all the others who have been on HF much longer than you, who
have worked HF comm 24/7 longer than you've been alive? Since you aren't
out getting ready for emergency work on Isabel, why don't you start a
petition for an RM with the FCC to make the 'ARS' the Archaic
RadioTELEGRAPHY Service.
_________________________________________________ ________________

What in the world are you talking about, Len?

The Archaic Radiotelegraphy Service, better known as the "ARS."

You are such an important "EMA" or whatever during a major
hurricane and you are playing in the newsgroup?


BTW, thanks for mentioning Isabel. We *have* been working very hard
tracking her and making preliminary preparations for a possible evacuation.

You are now in NOAA?

Good grief, there's no end to the stories you make up.

Fortunately, we didn't have to implement them this time around.

Why don't you PRACTICE?

Keep up those morse skills. Be ready to deflect the hurricanes with
rapid-fire 20 WPM code! Save lives and property by being radio
amateurs! Get mentioned in the ARRL newsletter.

And get forgotten by the major press even now IN the path of Isabel
reporting and using newfangled communications equipment called
"portable television" and "satellite communications."

But thanks for caring about my job. It's touching, really.

I care less what you do.

You've made so much BS in here about your professional amateurism
that there's no believing what you say. I doubt you were ever an Army
civilian doing criminal investigation.

By all means, keep up with the Living Museum of Morse and Radio-
telegraphy.

It must please you greatly to keep the ARS DUMBED DOWN at the
standards and practices of 70 years ago.

LHA

In article , "Arnie Macy"
writes:

"Len Over 21" wrote ...

Macy, almost ALL your arguments are superfluous, denigratory, and without a
shred of merit in here. All you do is promote myths of "CW" as if this was
still the 1930s.
_________________________________________________ ________

Are you Clint's Daddy?

No. You have a ******* offspring?

I was hoping that *he* would answer the question.

Well "he" did.

What's the matter, sweetums, can't handle two at one time?

Too fast for your limited 20 WPM BS throughput?

I will say this, though. He sure does admire you.

Sorry, ******* parrent, Clint and I are not related.

We happen to agree on tossing morse code testing in the dumpster where
it belongs. So do thousands of others.

Are you sure y'all aren't related?

We are "related" as much as you and I are "related."

You never did look into a deployed brigade or regiment signal center
when you were working (as a civilian) for the US Army.

Never did have the guts to look in, did you?

You still haven't answered why you are busy Internetting when your
mighty macho morsemanship is so sorely needed in hurrican emergency
comms.

LHA

In article , "Arnie Macy"
writes:

"Len Over 21" wrote in part ...

Absolutely NOTHING about single side band (sic), amplified modulation
(sic) and RTTY until the 1900s.

That would make those modes about 103 years old, Len. At what point do we
start to consider them outdated?

When did the "amateur expert" Arnie Macy last take an amateur radio test?

Since I'm a VE -- I looked at the current material about a week ago.

You didn't answer my question.

Not unexpected.

VEs don't take tests. They just proctor them.


Now, why in the hell aren't you OUT THERE as an EM person getting ready for
Isabel's destructive landfall? We can't read about Macy's marvelous savings
of the day through ham band OOK CW on the ARRL news page if you don't get
off the Internet and be ready for all those disasterous emergencies.

Well, I must say that I have been quite busy for the past two weeks.

Not too busy to play in the newsgroup...bragging up a storm.

The
initial track of the storm was not looking very good for the SE United
States. Fortunately for us, we were able to miss the bullet on this one.

I've just seen some various network news video of reporters out IN
the Isabel landfall area using all the newfangled video and radio and
stuff that you must think "won't work" in a storm.

Of course you know that we *did* use that old stand-by Morse Code when Floyd
came calling in 1999.

Of course you did, saved hundreds, thousands of lives and property by
using high-speed morse to deflect Floyd.

Any more mythology you want to repeat?

SSB (you know, that 103 year old technology) was just
not cutting it, so we went to CW until the condx improved.

You are technically ignorant senior.

"SSB" in radio dates from about 1930 so it is merely 70 years old.

Amateurs never really used it on any large scale until after 1950, that
being 50 years ago.

It's kinda hard to talk with someone 250 miles away on a handi-talkie.

Not a problem, poor baby. You've never done any Space Station
or Shuttle contacts with an HT, have you?

Couldn't connect your morse key to an HT, senior?

LHA

"Len Over 21" wrote in part ...

I care less what you do. You've made so much BS in here about your
professional amateurism that there's no believing what you say. I doubt you
were ever an Army civilian doing criminal investigation.
__________________________________________________ ____________

Actually I think you care a great deal about what I do since you mention it
in every one of your replies to me. It must really frost you that I've been
successful at everything I've ever done -- including Emergency Management
(apparently you've failed at many things along the way) If you doubt my
credentials, feel free to read the article on my web site that was done by
the local paper when I was appointed as director for EM. Then verify the
sources. As for you -- since you *still* can't reply without being the
insulting obnoxious petty bore you've always been, its back to the killfile.
To be honest, I'd much rather exchange views with Bill Sohl -- at least he
makes cogent debatable arguments from his side of the isle.

Arnie -
KT4ST

www.qsl.net/kt4st/ema.htm

"Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote in message
...

Very difficult? Oh please. I passed all three tests (5, 13, 20) with
10
of
10 right on the written and solid copy for each.

AH, so it's EASY? SIMPLE? hah, proof then there's no point. Other
hams kept saying it was a discipline of selftraining, and you just said
it was as breeze. Well, if it's a natural as breathing air, then, no need
to test it.

End of discussion.

It's SO easy :)

Clint
KB5ZHT



It's easy if one puts in the time to learn. The discipline comes in
allocating the time and using it correctly. If one stops prematurely, they
fail. If one uses the time ineffectively, they fail.

All one is doing in "learning code" is training a reflex. This is very easy
but it just takes time.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dick Carroll wrote in message ...
Robert wrote:

"Dick Carroll" wrote

I am capable of passing any sort of radio traffic by way of
radiotelgraphy,

I'd like to see you pass a weather satellite photo fax via
radiotelegraphy....

Uh,, Bob, that isn't traffic, It's *data*. I guess if you were really
familiar with radio
you;d know that, wouldn't you?

Uhhh, DICK, you should know that weather data can be passed via many
modes, and that satellite imagery is referred to as wefax or wxsat.

Typically, what is called "DATA" is RTTY.

But all that is old technology. Today, we get our weather via
wideband, though you're free to play with UKMO and NAM transmissions.

which I learned as a requirement of my licensure as a
ham radio operator. There is no reason for you to be exempted from the
same.

Well, at least you finally admit that it's "I had to do it, you
should too."

The difference is, I know why. You obviously don't.

Couldn't be much of a difference since you obviously don't know why.
And I know why you don't. You're simply ignorant about weather comms.
Stick to things you know, such as CW and more CW. When you're done
talking about CW, you could switch to Morse so you don't sound like a
broken record.

And FWIW, radar image intensity bulletins used to be transmitted via
tty, and the receiver had to plot it on a predetermined overlay for
that particular radar station. So the concept is there for satellite
data transmission, but was never implemented. So go and create a
satellite overlay grid, then encode satellite IR temps (if you can),
and get cracking on Robert's idea.

See, you CAN use CW to send useful information rather than just ARRL
numbergrams.

73, Brian

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Clint wrote:


DICK, what was past is past.


My grandfather (God rest his soul, he passed away
7 years ago) lived to the ripe old age of 87. Every now
and then he'd get really drunk on vodka, and then go
into a past-recalling delirium where he'd keep talking
about the need to have a horse and buggy give you a
ride if you wanted to make it back into his neck of
the woods all the way from the main road.

The next morning he'd sober up and find himself back
in the modern day era. The horse and buggy were long
gone.

I always love a tale which attempts to impart a message. In this one,
we learned that your grandad was a drunk.

Dave K8MN

And that many a PCTA behave as if they were.