"Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote in message
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It's easy if one puts in the time to learn. The discipline comes in
allocating the time and using it correctly. If one stops prematurely,
they
fail. If one uses the time ineffectively, they fail.

great! then those who want to use CW should allocate the time and use
it correctly to learn the discipline of CW.

Those who have no use for it and don't plan in it, shouldn't have it
shoved
down thier throats.

NEXT?!?!?!?!

Clint
KB5ZHT

Please note that my reply, in this case, was not an argument either for or
against keeping the CW testing. It was simply a comment on learning.
Therefore your response is irrelevant to this particular comment. If you
wish to debate effectively, responses need to be related to the statement.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Robert wrote:
"Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote in message
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The scary bit is if you keep applying logic to this argument, it
just keeps getting wierder.

no, you just keep getting angrier because the modern-world hams
in here and elsewhere refute your (non)logic and continue to work
toward eliminating CW testing


Uhm, we're on the same side on that matter. I was pointing out how
the PCTA argument devolves.

I thought NCTA's were the nice guys in this discussion.

- Mike KB3EIA -

"Brian" wrote in message
om...
Dick Carroll wrote in message
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Well, Brainiac, here it is, straight from the horses a....er.
......mouth-

Keith sed...
On 16 Sep 2003 02:46:25 GMT,
Alun Palmer in wrote:
EI is the 7th country to abolish code testing by my reckoning

Don't fret Alun, by the time the USA approves of no
more morse code testing the bands will be destroyed
by BPL. You can quote me on that.


So I guess you guys will get your code free bands just in time.
Gee, things have a way of evening out.......for decades you "wouldn't",
now you "couldn't"...Poor baby!

DICK, I've always been a coded ham. You're statements do noting but
reveal your dementia.

Someone sent me an email and said the Waddles, while spouting off something
about dumbness, in the same sentence said that I was one of those
dumbed-down GENERALS!!!!

Dementia, hell, these guys need their medication!

Kim W5TIT

So be it then. This issue is about
a CW test requirement anyway...not whether you want to use
CW in your local area for emergency comms.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK



EXATCLY. The problem is that the PCTA crowd refuses to
split the two issues; they are attempting to force it to a "ALL
CW OR NOTHING" debate, and it's not so.

I use cw; my first several QSL cards were from CW contacts.
I enjoy it from time to time. I never said it should never be
used or done away with.

I have only said that testing one's skill at it no longer necessary.

Clint
KB5ZHT

nope, he didn't.
that was what I was drawing an analogy to... that, and PCTA'ers
living in the past.

Clint
KB5ZHT.



Dave, he's way past that. Now he's writing between the lines.

I thought NCTA's were the nice guys in this discussion.

- Mike KB3EIA -


you better take that back!
just kidding...


Clint
KB5ZHT

OH, I doubt that very seriously.
You made that comment free of slant in either direction? in a
discussion of pro/con referring to CW testing, and you're placing
a post saying "oh, it's so easy, just take the time and do it",
and it's suppose to be "free of spin"?

please sell me some ocean front property in kansas while
you're at it.

Clint
KB5ZHT


"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
. com...


Please note that my reply, in this case, was not an argument either for or
against keeping the CW testing. It was simply a comment on learning.
Therefore your response is irrelevant to this particular comment. If you
wish to debate effectively, responses need to be related to the statement.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"Arnie Macy" wrote in message
...
"Clint" wrote ...

AH! we've finally gotten to the personal character attacks. You must
have
already conceded defeat. That's the only thing one can conclude when the
ideas and facts stop flowing and the insults start flying.
__________________________________________________ _______________

Don't flatter yourself, Clint. The comment was directed to Len. You,
OTOH,
haven't responded to the comment except for making some superfluous remark
about defeat where there is none. In doing so, you make my point for me.

Arnie -
KT4ST



don't flatter YOURSELF, arnie... I made that comment without personal
reference
to myself.. it was merely the fact that you have switched to a personal
attack that
I was drawing attention to. Heh, nice try though.

And, that is where you scored NO points.



Clint
KB5ZHT

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Facts are to socialists what crosses are to vampires

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Hey, Arnie! If "personal character attacks are an admission of defeat,
why don't you ask Clint about calling us N***'s? He must really be
admitting defeat if he both calls us that *and* invokes Godwin's law.

- Mike KB3EIA -


and just fill in the blanks as to what a N*** is, and we'll see if
I was guilty of calling you an inflammatory and insulting name.

Clint
KB5ZHT

"Arnie Macy" wrote in message
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No, we get it alright.

well, obviously you did not.

Your arguments are absurd.

that IS what "reductio ad absurdum" is.

Clint
KB5ZHT