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Some of us hams might be proud to wear a shirt like that. While I don't
disagree with Part 97 or the basic regulatory apparatus, I do disagree
with the blatant censorship being perpetrated by the FCC.

And I have both my Extra and my General Radiotelephone licenses.

Robert Casey wrote:
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You may want one too, after bpl plugs your ears.

Subject: T shirt for some of you non hams
From: Tony P.
Date: 4/7/2004 1:46 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
says...
http://www.enemynation.com/ProductIm...ges/fcc300.gif

Some of us hams might be proud to wear a shirt like that. While I don't
disagree with Part 97 or the basic regulatory apparatus, I do disagree
with the blatant censorship being perpetrated by the FCC.

And I have both my Extra and my General Radiotelephone licenses.

There's a fine line between "censorship" and demanding that our airwaves
not sound like a brothel on payday night. One can effectively express thier
views without resorting to the usual profane adjectives.

Why does Howard Stern and others of his ilk have to use profanity and
disrepute women in general for his "shows"...?!?!

In my not so humble opinion, it just goes to show that without profanity
or ribald reference to women, he's got absolutely nothing to offer....He AND
the other "shock jocks".

But the "shocking" part is that many of the people who are now demanding
his censure are the same liberal twits who thought this was "freedom of speech"
and that he was funny only 10 or 15 years ago.

It's not so funny now that THIER KIDS are coming home with a mouth full of
filth!

Steve, K4YZ

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: T shirt for some of you non hams
From: Tony P.
Date: 4/7/2004 1:46 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
says...
http://www.enemynation.com/ProductIm...ges/fcc300.gif

Some of us hams might be proud to wear a shirt like that. While I don't
disagree with Part 97 or the basic regulatory apparatus, I do disagree
with the blatant censorship being perpetrated by the FCC.

And I have both my Extra and my General Radiotelephone licenses.

There's a fine line between "censorship" and demanding that our airwaves
not sound like a brothel on payday night.

Do the numbers "3995" or "14313" mean anything to you?

One can effectively express thier
views without resorting to the usual profane adjectives.

Way to go, Rev. Robeson...or is that "Rev. Janus" with the two
faces?

Why does Howard Stern and others of his ilk have to use profanity and
disrepute women in general for his "shows"...?!?!

Stern is a radio amateur?

There's not supposed to be any broadcasting in amateur radio.

Ah, but you want to make this a CHAT ROOM, do you?

In my not so humble opinion, it just goes to show that without profanity
or ribald reference to women, he's got absolutely nothing to offer....He AND
the other "shock jocks".

Well, then, rise up and smite the infidels, cleanse the ethnic
white male dominance of amateur radio!

Make amateur radio SAFE for "your kind"...the ones that love
to call others filthy and profane names...but allow no others to
do anything horrible like that to YOU. :-)

But the "shocking" part is that many of the people who are now demanding
his censure are the same liberal twits who thought this was "freedom of
speech" and that he was funny only 10 or 15 years ago.

FCC proceeding 98-143, date 25 January 1999.

How quickly some forget. Tsk, tsk.

It's not so funny now that THIER KIDS are coming home with a mouth full
of filth!

Troi senses trouble in your home...

Have you tried family counseling for your kid?

Hypocrite.

Shalom, meshugge goyim...

LHA / WMD

"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote in message
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Subject: T shirt for some of you non hams
snip
There's a fine line between "censorship" and demanding that our
airwaves
not sound like a brothel on payday night. One can effectively express
thier
views without resorting to the usual profane adjectives.

Why does Howard Stern and others of his ilk have to use profanity and
disrepute women in general for his "shows"...?!?!

In my not so humble opinion, it just goes to show that without
profanity
or ribald reference to women, he's got absolutely nothing to offer....He
AND
the other "shock jocks".

But the "shocking" part is that many of the people who are now
demanding
his censure are the same liberal twits who thought this was "freedom of
speech"
and that he was funny only 10 or 15 years ago.

It's not so funny now that THIER KIDS are coming home with a mouth
full of
filth!

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, we'll always have folks arguing for/against censorship. Free the air
waves! Yep. Did you see the article in the newspaper day before yesterday?
If you didn't, send me a note off group and I'll send you a photo of it as
it is still on my porch in the recycle bin. The article? Heheheheh ....

Essentially, it seems there are new interference problems. The police and
fire departments in some areas have been experiencing interference from -
get ready for this - CELL PHONES! Yep, the huge numbers of cell phones and
cell phone towers are beginning to make it difficult for the fire and police
to communicate. Many folks with HTs that have been in reasonably close
proximity to large communications centers (such as the 911 center about two
miles from my house) already know about intermod. Hey, weren't cell phones
supposed to be the new 'emergency' communications?

The sad thing is that the FCC is largely a shill for large business now. It
would't take a ton of effort for some kind of coordination to help avoid
this problem - but, hey, no regulation is better than regulation, right?

I hope your area isn't one of those they were talking about. Power to the
people! I can see it now. A release of gas, a minor quake - all the cell
phones light up and the police comms go down. Hey, why not eliminate the
FCC entirely? Just wait until BPL arrives


Best regards from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA



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Steve Robeson K4CAP wrote:
Subject: T shirt for some of you non hams
From: Tony P.
Date: 4/7/2004 1:46 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
says...

http://www.enemynation.com/ProductIm...ges/fcc300.gif

Some of us hams might be proud to wear a shirt like that. While I don't
disagree with Part 97 or the basic regulatory apparatus, I do disagree
with the blatant censorship being perpetrated by the FCC.

And I have both my Extra and my General Radiotelephone licenses.


There's a fine line between "censorship" and demanding that our airwaves
not sound like a brothel on payday night. One can effectively express thier
views without resorting to the usual profane adjectives.

Why does Howard Stern and others of his ilk have to use profanity and
disrepute women in general for his "shows"...?!?!

In my not so humble opinion, it just goes to show that without profanity
or ribald reference to women, he's got absolutely nothing to offer....He AND
the other "shock jocks".

But the "shocking" part is that many of the people who are now demanding
his censure are the same liberal twits who thought this was "freedom of speech"
and that he was funny only 10 or 15 years ago.

It's not so funny now that THIER KIDS are coming home with a mouth full of
filth!


The way that they can do it is because they are STUPID, Steve! They
seem to think that this will protect their kids and that they will grow
up drug free because their parents will talk to them, and they will
refrain from all sexual activity, remaining a virgin until the age of
thirty-five, after which they will marry and live a morally correct
life........... fuggitaboudit!

Kids will learn the language and the "bad stuff" anyhow, and the SFB's
that think the censorship will help don't realize that they just make it
"kewler"


But on the other hand, I want it cleaned up because its piggish and
awful manners and catering to the lowest common denominator.

- Mike KB3EIA -

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...
Steve Robeson K4CAP wrote:
The way that they can do it is because they are STUPID, Steve! They
seem to think that this will protect their kids and that they will grow
up drug free because their parents will talk to them, and they will
refrain from all sexual activity, remaining a virgin until the age of
thirty-five, after which they will marry and live a morally correct
life........... fuggitaboudit!

Kids will learn the language and the "bad stuff" anyhow, and the SFB's
that think the censorship will help don't realize that they just make it
"kewler"


But on the other hand, I want it cleaned up because its piggish and
awful manners and catering to the lowest common denominator.

- Mike KB3EIA -


Besides that it conveys no information and no humor. They are "zero
content" words that get in the way of the topic or joke or whatever.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

The article? Heheheheh ....

Essentially, it seems there are new interference problems. The police and
fire departments in some areas have been experiencing interference from -
get ready for this - CELL PHONES!

Saw it here in the local rag too. The diagrams were particularly
uninformative. Showed
radio towers with a wave comming out. And the wave was divided up into
various
sections showing allocations. At first I thought "time division domain"
but realized that
it had to be "frequency dividion domain" for the allocations to make
sense.

Yep, the huge numbers of cell phones and
cell phone towers are beginning to make it difficult for the fire and police
to communicate. Many folks with HTs that have been in reasonably close
proximity to large communications centers (such as the 911 center about two
miles from my house) already know about intermod. Hey, weren't cell phones
supposed to be the new 'emergency' communications?

The sad thing is that the FCC is largely a shill for large business now. It
would't take a ton of effort for some kind of coordination to help avoid
this problem - but, hey, no regulation is better than regulation, right?

I hope your area isn't one of those they were talking about. Power to the
people! I can see it now. A release of gas, a minor quake - all the cell
phones light up and the police comms go down. Hey, why not eliminate the
FCC entirely?

They don't call it the "Funny Cookie Corporation" for nothing. :-)

Dee D. Flint wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...

Steve Robeson K4CAP wrote:
The way that they can do it is because they are STUPID, Steve! They
seem to think that this will protect their kids and that they will grow
up drug free because their parents will talk to them, and they will
refrain from all sexual activity, remaining a virgin until the age of
thirty-five, after which they will marry and live a morally correct
life........... fuggitaboudit!

Kids will learn the language and the "bad stuff" anyhow, and the SFB's
that think the censorship will help don't realize that they just make it
"kewler"


But on the other hand, I want it cleaned up because its piggish and
awful manners and catering to the lowest common denominator.

- Mike KB3EIA -



Besides that it conveys no information and no humor. They are "zero
content" words that get in the way of the topic or joke or whatever.

I remember watching one of the Eddie Murphy movies and getting
disgusted. Here was a amazingly funny guy, and all the profanity just
got in the way, like you said.

If you want to listen to how profanity can be used properly in
entertainment, listen to Garrison Keillor. He will say a mild off color
word about once every 6 months, and it's very rarity makes for a real
kick. His 4th of July fireworks barge disaster is a classic in that way.

- Mike KB3EIA -