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Old July 20th 04, 01:59 PM
Mike Coslo
 
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Bill Sohl wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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N2EY wrote:

It's not just time in grade but actual supervised work experience. Back


in the

old days of a 2 year wait for Extra, a ham could just toss the General


license

in a drawer and do nothing for 2 years, yet the "experience" would still


count.

We aren't likely to see such experience requirements reinstated either,


IMHO.

Too bad, that!



My personal view is that I would have no problem with a "time-in-grade"
requirement to go from General to Extra. Odds are that if someone gets
a General and stays then two years later goes for Extra, they were
probably at least active as a ham and getting real experience based on
their interests in operating at whatever mode/band they like.



Correct! I know I made Extra a little sooner than I think I should
have. And I know some that made Extra waaay sooner than they should
have. I think that Amateur Extra should mean a little something, and
experience would help a lot in that respect. that hypothetical General
class that just puts the license in a drawer and does nothing for two
years, isn't likely to upgrade anyway.

- Mike KB3EIA -

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Old July 20th 04, 02:52 PM
Dee D. Flint
 
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"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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Bill Sohl wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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N2EY wrote:

It's not just time in grade but actual supervised work experience. Back

in the

old days of a 2 year wait for Extra, a ham could just toss the General

license

in a drawer and do nothing for 2 years, yet the "experience" would

still

count.

We aren't likely to see such experience requirements reinstated either,

IMHO.

Too bad, that!



My personal view is that I would have no problem with a "time-in-grade"
requirement to go from General to Extra. Odds are that if someone gets
a General and stays then two years later goes for Extra, they were
probably at least active as a ham and getting real experience based on
their interests in operating at whatever mode/band they like.



Correct! I know I made Extra a little sooner than I think I should
have. And I know some that made Extra waaay sooner than they should
have. I think that Amateur Extra should mean a little something, and
experience would help a lot in that respect. that hypothetical General
class that just puts the license in a drawer and does nothing for two
years, isn't likely to upgrade anyway.

- Mike KB3EIA -


I've also believed that time in grade at the General level should be
required (it would have helped me) but that didn't stop me from personally
moving to Extra as fast as I was capable of doing so!

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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Old July 20th 04, 03:30 PM
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They become President of the United States........




Have you ever seen a family where the kids are given everything they want

but
not required to contribute anything? Ever see what sort of adults those

kids
become?

73 de Jim, N2EY



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Old July 20th 04, 05:11 PM
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Subject: FCC Morse testing at 16 and 20 WPM
From: Dave Heil
Date: 7/20/2004 6:26 AM Central Standard Time
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Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Robert Casey
writes:


Yes I do. I HAVE to get an "extra out of the box!"


Only because you shot off your mouth in a fit of braggadocio.


Exactly...but this is different from any other Lenover21 post...How...???

Once posted in here, such a thing will hang on for the LIFE
of the sayer. It's like Posting Bans!


No, it isn't. It's like having your words come back to bite you in the
ass after you've issued a foolish boast.


Lennie accuses others of railing aginst him, but it's his own words and
deeds that constantly undermine his "credibility".

I haven't taken my first amateur test yet.


No kidding!


Coward. Just no other explanation for it, Dave.

... [took my last
commercial operator's test in front of the FCC in Chicago in
1956].


Irrelevant.

Maybe I'm not up to it?


Maybe not.


Definately not.

After all, it's such a Ruff and Tuff
session...


It isn't the Ruff or the Tuff. It's getting Len off of his Duff.


And there's a lot to get off of...

...and I'm told there's a wash-out rate that is high.
Will there be any blood shed? Injuries during the test? Do
the VEC have standard obstacle courses or they individual?


All of this is just a tap dance to lead us away from your boastful
claim, right?


"Obfuscation"..?!?! "Misdirection"...?!?! Not OUR Lennie!

Will my amateur service uniform be fitted right there if I pass?
Will there be a parade ceremony for all who pass later? Can
I get a commemorative photo taken if I pass? Can my wife
attend the ceremony? Friends? Neighbors?


You're another Gregory Hines.


He's dead...?!?! Shall we inform the next-of-kin...???

Is there a clergyman there at the test session for counseling
all who fail? [hope it's a good Lutheran pastor] Will there be
a weapons search before a test session? Can't have anyone
despondent failure offing themselves.

BIG EVENT! Most important day of anyone's life!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

Sorry, Bobbie, that got away again... :-)


Always go for the diminuitive name tactic to make you appear superior,
grizzled old timer.


Of course.

Lennie has always made a "big deal" about being subjected to the same
thing, but "HE" never does such things...

Of course we know this to be a lie since neither Robert Casey nor Jim
Miccolis refer to him by anything other than "Len" or "Mr. Anderson", yet we
have a dozen different belittling names Lennie uses against Jim.

Now he's started in with "Bobbie" on Mr Casey despite the fact that
Robert has ALWAYS treated Anderscum with respect.

Open bands, old timer, wipe the back of those very wet ears...


Excuse me, Leonard. He already HAS an amateur ticket.


Of course.

And other than his GROL, which he allegedly allowed to expire (still can't
figger out how an alleged "radio professional" could say he let a lifetime
license "expire" without himself expiring...) Lennie has NO license....No
operators permits, no station licenses, nada.

LHA / WMD


Gotta love that "Weapons of Mass Distraction" sig.


(L)iar (H)arboring (A)ntagonism / (W)antonly (M)isleads and (D)eceives

Steve, K4YZ





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Old July 20th 04, 10:56 PM
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In article , "Dee D. Flint"
writes:

I've also believed that time in grade at the General level should be
required (it would have helped me) but that didn't stop me from personally
moving to Extra as fast as I was capable of doing so!


Some time back, I proposed a three-class license structure here. One of the
requirements was a year experience at each level.

Boy did that catch flak!

73 de Jim, N2EY
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Old July 20th 04, 11:52 PM
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Ryan, KC8PMX wrote:
They become President of the United States........

hehe. Good one, Ryan!

- Mike KB3EIA -




Have you ever seen a family where the kids are given everything they want


but

not required to contribute anything? Ever see what sort of adults those


kids

become?

73 de Jim, N2EY





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Old July 20th 04, 11:54 PM
Mike Coslo
 
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N2EY wrote:

In article , "Dee D. Flint"
writes:


I've also believed that time in grade at the General level should be
required (it would have helped me) but that didn't stop me from personally
moving to Extra as fast as I was capable of doing so!



Some time back, I proposed a three-class license structure here. One of the
requirements was a year experience at each level.

Boy did that catch flak!


Was that before I came in? I would support that!

- Mike KB3EIA -

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Old July 21st 04, 02:24 AM
Bill Sohl
 
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"N2EY" wrote in message
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In article , "Dee D. Flint"
writes:

I've also believed that time in grade at the General level should be
required (it would have helped me) but that didn't stop me from

personally
moving to Extra as fast as I was capable of doing so!


Some time back, I proposed a three-class license structure here. One of

the
requirements was a year experience at each level.

Boy did that catch flak!


Where I don't see any need for time in grade is between the
entry level (i.e. beginner) and the intermediate (e.g. General).
Perhaps that's why you got such major flak.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK



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