Won't matter. When Len hits 20 years in the amateur service, these
guys will have 50. Len will still be "wet behind the ears."

True that he won't have the 50 years experience, but even just a few
weeks of operating time on the bands will dry out behind his ears...

Of course it's up to him to actually go out and do it...

Subject: FCC Morse testing at 16 and 20 WPM
From: Robert Casey
Date: 7/19/2004 1:46 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:




Won't matter. When Len hits 20 years in the amateur service, these
guys will have 50. Len will still be "wet behind the ears."

True that he won't have the 50 years experience, but even just a few
weeks of operating time on the bands will dry out behind his ears...

Of course it's up to him to actually go out and do it...

It would be easier to get Bill Clinton to stop lifting skirts he's not
married to than get Lennie to actually DO what he said he was going to do.

73

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: FCC Morse testing at 16 and 20 WPM
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 7/19/2004 12:18 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(Stevie
Stalker, Exxtra Ethnic Cleanser, swallowed his Fleet Kit and barfed
up the following shortie)

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"

From the Analogy of Leis of Leonard H. Anderson, Alleged Radio
"Professional".

Pathological liar, extrodinaire.

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: FCC Morse testing at 16 and 20 WPM
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 7/19/2004 12:18 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

Len, just get the damm license.

Just for the purpose of settling a very few newsgrope irregulars
who are irritated by controversy?

What controversy?

Not a good reason "for the service!"

There's never a good reason with you, Lennie, including, it seems, your
own inisistance that you were going to do it.

Not that you've ever developed a reputation for being truthful...

It ain't that hard.

I'm aware of that. So is anyone in the public who cares to look.

But it still eludes you.

I say you just can't do it. You're afraid.

Hell even 5wpm.

So, learning a useless skill is considered "important?"

Who says it's useless?

You?

I've never had to learn or use any manual telegraphy in 51 years of
actual communicating on HF.

You've never been a licensed Amateur Radio operator.

Morse code skill is an anachronism. Only amateurs use it with any
regularity and then those are only a few amateurs, a minority.

Your definition of "a few" is interesting.

Especially when actually LISTENING to the bottom end of the HF
allocations.

I did it and I'm no good at sort of "motor skill" kind of thing.

Not a good reason for me to waste my time trying to re-enact
the past.

You can't "re-enact" the present.

Morse Code has not been required for access to over 97% of all US Amateur
allocations for over 13 years.

Then get on the air some.

Been there, done that, from LF on up to microwaves.

But not as an Amateur.

On discreet channels under someone else's station license and with modes
dictated by that license.

Did it earlier this year using an SGC SG-2020 on HF.
[also late last year, same rig...both times very legal!]

Uh huh. Big time operator.

Then you can speak with some creditability
here and other forums on ham radio.

Impossible! "Those without an amateur license have zero-point-
zero experience, don't know nuthin, etc., etc., etc., etc."

With or without a license, you STILL have zero-point-zero experience in
Amateur Radio matters.

Ham radio works by different principles than all other radios.
That's what I'm told. I don't believe them, but lots of hams do.

Then you've uttered yet another lie.

NO ONE in this forum has even remotely suggested that Amateur Radio
equipment operates by "different principles".

Thank-you for substantiating my assertion that you are a liar. Again.

As far as morseodism is concerned, I'm an atheist. I don't
worship at the Church of St. Hiram. Put away your collection
plate and Him books.

"I am only here to civillly debate the Morse Code test issue".

Look to yourself and contemporaries. Improve your own standing
within the "amateur community." Foster more myths and legends
of the Power of Morse, use either a Wayback or Tyme Mashine
and concentrate on 80 to 100 years ago happenings, idolize the
Pioneers of Hamateur Raddio (well over all others in radio), and
treasure the icon of icons, the amateur license certificate. Don't
bother to look towards the future...except to note the next ham
club date and time so you can continue to Spread The Word.

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"

Live your proper lifestyle of amateurism. Be an ascetic. Toss
around more acetic acid. [stop bath in darkrooms...fitting]

"Ohm, mane padme Ohm..."

I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue".

BTW, it's not a DAMN license.

For once you're right about SOMEthing concerning Amateur Radio, the typo
notwithstanding.

It's an official federal merit badge. Makes you invincible?

Ooooops...slipped back to being a putz. Bad Lennie. Not that we expected
anything less, though. You wouldn't be "you" any other way. Some
"professional".

Steve, K4YZ

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

You're an OF, Len. In Fact, you're currently the O'est F known to be
posting here. You're a one-man ilk. You'll never be a Great Guru in
amateur radio as you are in no way involved in amateur radio. I don't
think anyone would seek you out as a single source of info on amateur
radio.

Dave K8MN

Len, just get the damm license.

Why would anyone want him to do that?

It ain't that hard. Hell even 5wpm.
I did it and I'm no good at sort of "motor skill" kind of thing.

Me too.

Then get on the air some.

That would require an actual amateur station...

Then you can speak with some creditability
here and other forums on ham radio.

Yep.

It ain't that hard.

I'm aware of that. So is anyone in the public who cares to look.


But it still eludes you.

I say you just can't do it. You're afraid.



I'll cut Len a break in that if he does go for testing and
fails, he doesn't have to tell anyone. But he has to
go to the next session and try again. Only when he passes
does he have to tell us. And he doesn't have to get his
extra in one sitting...

William wrote:

Robert Casey wrote in message ...


You're an OF, Len. In Fact, you're currently the O'est F known to be
posting here. You're a one-man ilk. You'll never be a Great Guru in
amateur radio as you are in no way involved in amateur radio. I don't
think anyone would seek you out as a single source of info on amateur
radio.

Dave K8MN

Len, just get the damm license. It ain't that hard. Hell even 5wpm.
I did it and I'm no good at sort of "motor skill" kind of thing.
Then get on the air some. Then you can speak with some creditability
here and other forums on ham radio.

Won't matter. When Len hits 20 years in the amateur service, these
guys will have 50. Len will still be "wet behind the ears." The
license just doesn't matter with these guys - it's merely their excuse
to act like idiots.

Len isn't a licensed radio amateur. Ergo, he has no excuse for acting
like an idiot. When and if Leonard ever has twenty years as an amateur
radio under his belt, I'll treat him to a package of adult-sized
diapers.

Dave K8MN

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

I'll cut Len a break in that if he does go for testing and
fails, he doesn't have to tell anyone. But he has to
go to the next session and try again. Only when he passes
does he have to tell us. And he doesn't have to get his
extra in one sitting...

Yes I do. I HAVE to get an "extra out of the box!"

Once posted in here, such a thing will hang on for the LIFE
of the sayer. It's like Posting Bans!

I haven't taken my first amateur test yet. [took my last
commercial operator's test in front of the FCC in Chicago in
1956].

Maybe I'm not up to it? After all, it's such a Ruff and Tuff
session and I'm told there's a wash-out rate that is high.
Will there be any blood shed? Injuries during the test? Do
the VEC have standard obstacle courses or they individual?

Will my amateur service uniform be fitted right there if I pass?
Will there be a parade ceremony for all who pass later? Can
I get a commemorative photo taken if I pass? Can my wife
attend the ceremony? Friends? Neighbors?

Is there a clergyman there at the test session for counseling
all who fail? [hope it's a good Lutheran pastor] Will there be
a weapons search before a test session? Can't have anyone
despondent failure offing themselves.

BIG EVENT! Most important day of anyone's life!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

Sorry, Bobbie, that got away again... :-)

Open bands, old timer, wipe the back of those very wet ears...

LHA / WMD

In article , Robert Casey
writes:

Won't matter. When Len hits 20 years in the amateur service, these
guys will have 50. Len will still be "wet behind the ears."

True that he won't have the 50 years experience, but even just a few
weeks of operating time on the bands will dry out behind his ears...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

Congratulations. You've just won the "IE" award, Bobbie. :-)

"Dry out behind the ears?!?"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

First time I strapped on an AN/PRC-8 it wasn't raining. We were out
in the field though and I recall it was humid. Running around and
practicing sojer in da woods makes one sweat a bit. While I don't
recall exactly the personal moisture condition, I'm sure that I was
a bit wet behind the ears then. In 1954. PRC-8 was a manpack
VHF radio.

Piece of cake to use. Nice handset. Can fit under the old steel
helmet. Lots of audio output so one can hear even though there
are lots of noises of an explosive sound around.

Of course, I have to admit that military radio procedure isn't NEAR
the life and death, exacting protocol demands of amateur radio!
Nosir, hardly anything as ruff and tuff as ham raddio. Must be sheer
hell during contests, ey? Lots of casualties? Must be.

Of course it's up to him to actually go out and do it...

Riiiiiiight. :-)

What a wonderful way to get new radio amateurs. Goad them into
taking The Test. Shame them. Lash with the Whip!

Have you brought that to the attention of the ARRL? I'm sure they
will want good suggestions on enlarging the ham ranks.

Do I get a nice medal if I take a test? I've been thinking about
using an empty shoe box to collect medals in so's I can be Ruff
and Tuff in da future. :-)

Subject: FCC Morse testing at 16 and 20 WPM
From: Dave Heil
Date: 7/19/2004 10:38 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

William wrote:

Won't matter. When Len hits 20 years in the amateur service, these
guys will have 50. Len will still be "wet behind the ears." The
license just doesn't matter with these guys - it's merely their excuse
to act like idiots.

Len isn't a licensed radio amateur. Ergo, he has no excuse for acting
like an idiot. When and if Leonard ever has twenty years as an amateur
radio under his belt, I'll treat him to a package of adult-sized
diapers.

Make sure they fit his head, Dave...that seems to be where all
the....uhhhhh...effluent is coming from anyway...

Steve, K4YZ