"KØHB" wrote in message
nk.net...


"Dee D. Flint" wrote


What was the URL? I cleaned out the newsgroup and forgot to save that
info.


Go to www.dxatlas.com and look for "Morse Runner"

73, de Hans, K0HB

Thanks!

"KØHB" wrote in message
ink.net...
VE3NEA has written a very sophisticated morse trainer. It supports Win 95
through XP, and implements QRN, QRM, QSB, flutter and even LIDs!
Adjustable cw
pitch, bandwidth, and RIT are included.

Go to www.dxatlas.com and look for "Morse Runner"

73, de Hans, K0HB
--
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~k0hb



Hello, Hans

Some folks I'm reading in the thread might have preferred the method in RMA
school. You *will* copy 16 words per minute before you graduate. You
*will* graduate in (was it 8 weeks? I forget). Or else. Vietnam was hot.
No one wanted the "fail and sail" option. People *did* learn Morse code in
record time )

BTW, they had recently reduced the code speed when I was in RMA school in
1967. I believe it had been 18 words per minute and they had reduced it to
16. Oh yes, you had to memorize the BAUDOT code also.

After leaving the service, I was working at Kodak and took a part time job
at WADD in Brockport, NY, a small am radio station. I was in a rush and
ripped copy from the teletype. The guy breaking me in was watching over my
shoulder as I started the news. LOL ... right in the middle of one article
the teletype took a hit and shifted out of letters and into gibberish. I
read right through it. After we went back to the records he asked "how in
hell did you do that?". I told him 4 years in the Navy running teletypes
tend to do that to you. I was used to it.


Best regards from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

"JAMES HAMPTON" wrote

Some folks I'm reading in the thread might have preferred the method in RMA
school. You *will* copy 16 words per minute before you graduate. You
*will* graduate in (was it 8 weeks? I forget). Or else.

Never had the pleasure of RMA school. Although I was a ham, out of boot camp
they sent me to RDA school at GLakes. Reported aboard my first tin-can as an
RDSN on a Saturday. On Monday AM the PN's checked me in and introducted me to
the Ops Boss who saw I was a ham. Turned out they had a surplus of scope dopes,
but needed some RM's in the worst way, so he "temporarily" assigned me to OC
instead of OI division. Thus ended my short career as an RD and started my
career as an RM. Years later BuPers still had canniptions about my gundecked
rate change.


After leaving the service, I was working at Kodak and took a part time job
at WADD in Brockport, NY, a small am radio station. I was in a rush and
ripped copy from the teletype. The guy breaking me in was watching over my
shoulder as I started the news. LOL ... right in the middle of one article
the teletype took a hit and shifted out of letters and into gibberish.

Worse than that were the model-28s whose stunt box inadvertently had the
"unshift-on-space" toggled on. Then get a 4-section logreq which is 85%
numerals and have to mentally bit-shift that summabitch back to figs so the SK's
could read it!

73, de Hans, K0HB

In article , "JAMES HAMPTON"
writes:

they had recently reduced the code speed when I was in RMA school in
1967. I believe it had been 18 words per minute and they had reduced it to
16.

It's my understanding that back in 1957-58, the standard for Radioman "A"
school was 24 wpm. 5 letter coded groups on a Navy mill. Test lasted one hour
with no more than 3 errors permitted.

Now *that's* proficiency!

73 de Jim, N2EY

In article , "Casey" writes:

how the tales of "I was a one-of-a-kind" super hero

As I read Hans' and Jim's and others' stories of their USN, USCG and Merchant
Marine experiences, one thing that is clear to me is that they do *not* claim
to be "one-of-a-kind" at all. Rather, they are simply relating their
experiences as part of a community. That's why the statue of a single sailor in
Washington DC can express so much.

"N2EY" wrote in message
...
In article , "Casey"
writes:

how the tales of "I was a one-of-a-kind" super hero

As I read Hans' and Jim's and others' stories of their USN, USCG and
Merchant
Marine experiences, one thing that is clear to me is that they do *not*
claim
to be "one-of-a-kind" at all. Rather, they are simply relating their
experiences as part of a community. That's why the statue of a single
sailor in
Washington DC can express so much.


Hello, Jim

Heck, anyone who has used one of those old green machines knows how they
were. Folks should be very grateful for the modern pc. The electronics are
far more rugged than the old teletypes. I've often stared at the 100 word
per minute mechanical beasties clanking away and wondered how they could do
that without flying apart. Of course, they did break down now and then ...



Best regards from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

In article , "JAMES HAMPTON"
writes:

Heck, anyone who has used one of those old green machines knows how they
were. Folks should be very grateful for the modern pc. The electronics are
far more rugged than the old teletypes. I've often stared at the 100 word
per minute mechanical beasties clanking away and wondered how they could do
that without flying apart. Of course, they did break down now and then ...


"Green?" All the ones I've ever worked with were black (old Model
15 to 19) or different shades of Teletype Corporation gray (Model
28 or 33)... :-)

Teletype Corporation ought to get a standing ovation for some
excellent mechanical design in those old teleprinters. They were
robust performers that went on for days at a time needing only to
be fed paper and (once in a while) a new ribbon.

The old 60 WPM units were tried out at 75 WPM on a few Army
circuits in 1955. MTBF went to hell at that speed and those circuits
had very high maintenance turn-over. Restored to 60 WPM speeds,
they continued on as if nothing had happened. Used the old type
cage structure of the manual/electric typewriters.

The "stunt box" (literally a box of type) used on the newer 100
WPM models did awesome things, true, fun to watch while
waiting for a program's answer back. Never had one "lock up" in
some strange mode, though, that including the old all-caps 60
WPM machines with Caps/Figs keys.

By 1980 the matrix printer was IN for anyone needing text
throughput, honking out 300 WPM with just a polite buzz instead
of the clatter-bang of the mechanical teleprinters. My little Epson
MX-80 (purchased in 1980) is still operational but it can't be given
away in this age of inkjet printers that tosses out an entire page
of text in 5 seconds (draft mode, black and white). The only sound
from the "old" HP 722 inkjet printer is the paper-advance stepping
motor; inkjets themselves being inaudible.

But, the Archaic Radiotelegraphy Society (ARS) isn't really
interested in communications per se, is it? ARS is all about
HOW the communications is done, not the comms' content. :-)

Most Best Holiday Greetings,

"But, the Archaic Radiotelegraphy Society (ARS) isn't really
interested in communications per se, is it? ARS is all about
HOW the communications is done, not the comms' content. :-)


Most Best Holiday Greetings,


"

All in the preparation for "THE BIG ONE." That one message where they
save the Titanic, the Hindenberg, Johnstown, etc.

Unfortunately, when it's time to send "THE BIG ONE" they have been so
focused on mode that no one will be left to hear them.

In article .com, "William"
writes:

"But, the Archaic Radiotelegraphy Society (ARS) isn't really
interested in communications per se, is it? ARS is all about
HOW the communications is done, not the comms' content. :-)


Most Best Holiday Greetings,


"

All in the preparation for "THE BIG ONE." That one message where they
save the Titanic, the Hindenberg, Johnstown, etc.

Unfortunately, when it's time to send "THE BIG ONE" they have been so
focused on mode that no one will be left to hear them.

Irrelevant. The MEDIUM is the massage, therefore anyone who
wants operating privileges on the amateur bands below 30 MHz
MUST take that important code test!

Morsemen WILL manufacture stories of beeping derring-do whether
the morse test is eliminated or kept ad infinitum. That's a given.

When space aliens invade the earth in their huge frying saucers,
morsemen will Save The World using the unbreakable morse code.

Morsemen are the gods of radio. Long may they wave.

"Len Over 21" wrote in message
...
In article , "JAMES HAMPTON"
writes:

Heck, anyone who has used one of those old green machines knows how they
were. Folks should be very grateful for the modern pc. The electronics
are
far more rugged than the old teletypes. I've often stared at the 100
word
per minute mechanical beasties clanking away and wondered how they could
do
that without flying apart. Of course, they did break down now and then
....


"Green?" All the ones I've ever worked with were black (old Model
15 to 19) or different shades of Teletype Corporation gray (Model
28 or 33)... :-)

Teletype Corporation ought to get a standing ovation for some
excellent mechanical design in those old teleprinters. They were
robust performers that went on for days at a time needing only to
be fed paper and (once in a while) a new ribbon.

The old 60 WPM units were tried out at 75 WPM on a few Army
circuits in 1955. MTBF went to hell at that speed and those circuits
had very high maintenance turn-over. Restored to 60 WPM speeds,
they continued on as if nothing had happened. Used the old type
cage structure of the manual/electric typewriters.

The "stunt box" (literally a box of type) used on the newer 100
WPM models did awesome things, true, fun to watch while
waiting for a program's answer back. Never had one "lock up" in
some strange mode, though, that including the old all-caps 60
WPM machines with Caps/Figs keys.

By 1980 the matrix printer was IN for anyone needing text
throughput, honking out 300 WPM with just a polite buzz instead
of the clatter-bang of the mechanical teleprinters. My little Epson
MX-80 (purchased in 1980) is still operational but it can't be given
away in this age of inkjet printers that tosses out an entire page
of text in 5 seconds (draft mode, black and white). The only sound
from the "old" HP 722 inkjet printer is the paper-advance stepping
motor; inkjets themselves being inaudible.

But, the Archaic Radiotelegraphy Society (ARS) isn't really
interested in communications per se, is it? ARS is all about
HOW the communications is done, not the comms' content. :-)

Most Best Holiday Greetings,



Hello, Len

To some amateurs the how *is* important. Witness PSK, moonbounce, and other
stuff. Anyone can grab a microphone and talk. Somehow, a lot of folks get
caught up in the code vs no-code argument that is getting *really* old.
Seems there used to be an am vs ssb argument back in the 60s as well.

However, that *how* it is done is important if we wish to further ourselves.

Have a merry Christmas, Len, and try to come up with a new argument next
year, hear?


Best regards from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA