Dee Flint wrote:
"bb" wrote in message
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cl wrote:
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cl wrote:



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I disagree. It took a great effort.


What is a great effort? Many times it is a matter of perspective.
In other
words what we expect versus reality may make something seem like a
"great
effort."

It took a big bite out of my life when I should have been paying
attention to other things. But I wanted it, so...

For some - it may! One argument I've heard, is that those
musically
inclined
pick it up quicker than others, yet I knew some who "were"
musically
inclined and claimed to have a hell of a time with it. Reason? I
don't know.
I can't get inside their head.

Steve can. He can even have them incarcerated with a simple phone
calls.

The biggest problem with most is "laziness".

Was that your problem? If you hadn't been so lazy you could
have
learned the code in under a week?

Eh - I had the code down in 2 weeks for the Novice exam. AND I'm
now
an
Extra. Been licensed since the early 80s.
Yeah, I probably could have learned it in under a week, if I
pushed
myself.

That wasn't my point. My point is that everyone is different, and
the
length of time it takes to learn 5WPM varies greatly. The time it
takes to learn 20WPM could be lifetimes. Not everyone is even
capable
of 13WPM.


Check out the book "The Art and Skill of Radiotelegraphy." Basically
anyone
without a handicap can master 20wpm with the proper training tools if
they
are truly motivated to do so. Keep in mind that we all talk faster
than
that. We even talk faster than that when we spell out words
phonetically!

When the ARRL advocates telepathy, I'll pay attention. Communication
at the speed of thought!

Most anyone will tell you - it isn't good to do such. Besides, at
that time,
I was chasing rug rats - so study time was premium.

I've been told that is absolutely no excuse. Nothing in your
personal
or professional life can be more important than learning the code.


No one has ever said that.

You're wrong. Larry Roll said that. Many of our regulars either
backed him up or were silent.

"bb" wrote in message
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When the ARRL advocates telepathy, I'll pay attention. Communication
at the speed of thought!


Start practicing now, Brian, 30 minutes a day, and you'll be up to 5 WPM in just
a few weeks!

73, de Hans, K0HB

K=D8HB wrote:
"bb" wrote in message
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When the ARRL advocates telepathy, I'll pay attention.
Communication
at the speed of thought!


Start practicing now, Brian, 30 minutes a day, and you'll be up to 5
WPM in just
a few weeks!
=20
73, de Hans, K0HB

I can already read Steve's mind at 20WPM. ;^)

"bb" wrote in message
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I can already read Steve's mind at 20WPM. ;^)

Because you've memorized the answers.

dit dit

K=D8HB wrote:
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I can already read Steve's mind at 20WPM. ;^)

Because you've memorized the answers.
=20
dit dit

From the entire Question Pool?

From: "bb" on Wed,Apr 20 2005 5:28 pm

cl wrote:
"bb" wrote in message

That's what you ask in here for! There are VEs in here, myself
included -
who can give guidance to those who ask.

cl

"Here" is all knowing.

Oh YESSS do these hams KNOW things... :-)

Part 97 doesn't define Morse Code, but specifies that it is to be
tested at 5WPM. Part 97 is silent on Farnsworth Code. Part 97
doesn't
say that the VE's must accomodate variations in testing.

Mama Dee would simply say "It's GOOD for you..." and
withold dessert. :-)

Why does a person have to ask RRAP when they should be able to read it
in the governing regulations???

I'm curious about the same thing. I've gotten all
these "interpretations" on it...which are simply
RATIONALIZATIONS anywhere else.

Part 97 is one of the shortest Parts in Title 47 C.F.R.

But, above all, MORSE must SHINE as the A-number-1
thing to DO!

Strange. 52 years ago the Army didn't require me
to know any morsemanship to operate and maintain
high-power HF transmitters (a mere 3 dozen). No
license, either. A year ago, nobody required me
to possess any license to operate a privately-
owned HF SSB transceiver on a boat. NO morse
needed to operate legally below 30 MHz then.

But, the ARS (Archaic RadioTELEGRAPHY Society)
stoutly maintains that *ALL* MUST test for morse
in order to have the "qualifications" to operate
below 30 MHz! FEDERAL Test! It's the LAW!!!

It's always been done that way...CANNOT be
changed. [been told that]