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Lennie's Back In Form...Old Rant's...Same Form...
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From: "K4YZ" on Sun,May 1 2005 5:42 am wrote: From: "K4YZ" on Fri,Apr 29 2005 9:54 pm I've never seen anyone ask about rear area Army radio stations in the 50's, Lennie, but you sure do let us know about it. Someone has to do it...poor Stevie NEVER did anything close to such HF communications...as an amateur or anything else. Neither did you, Lennie. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Poor Stebie...still envious AND FRUSTRATED. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nope...Not frustrated, Lennie...but just amazed at how much time you ahd on your hands to try and redirect from your own newsgroup silliness. You were a readio mechanic. "Readio?" Reallio? Typo. My Bad. You were still only a radio mechanic. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Primary MOS of Microwave Radio Relay Operation and Maintenance Supervisor. M A I N T E N A N C E. As in "mechanic". Secondary MOS of Fixed Station (transmitters) Radio Operation and Maintenance Supervisor...and a few other little duties such as Carrier Operation and Maintenance (not that those Western Electric units had either drift or failure). The VHF-UHF radio relay equipment operation and maintenance fell under my primary MOS. Maintenance, maintenance, maintenance. R A D I O M E C H A N I C. Not one word of "OPERATOR" in there...Thanks for backing me up, Lennie. Period. You were not a message center clerk...You were not responsible for determining operating frequencies, modes, etc. Tsk, tsk. The Chief Signal Officer, Washington DC, did that sort of deciding for ALL involved in ACAN - STARCOM - DCS and still does for all the alphabet soup organization evolvement that followed after the 1960s. You were not a message center clerk...You were not responsible for determining operating frequencies, modes, etc. Big snippage of usual stuff. (1) This forum is about Amateur Radio in the 21st century...Not Army communications in the 1950's. TSK, TSK, TSK, NURSIE! 1. This forum is NOT for Stebie's experiences with the Commanding General of the First Marine Air Wing in NINETINE EIGHTY ONE!!! [24 years ago] Nope. But It was one of SEVERAL assignments that placed me in a position to OPERATE radios...Something you've not done. 2. This forum is NOT for Stebie's BRAGS of mighty murine service in 'SEVEN HOSTILE ACTIONS!' "murine"...What's "murine", other than a commercial eye care product. You wouldn't be proactively "dissing" the military service of another, would you, Lennie? You's emphatically stated in this forum that you don't do that. 3. This forum is NOT for Stebie's BRAGS of prowess in SUTURING or about his "medical qualifications." Wasn't bragging, Lennie. 4. This forum is NOT for Stebie's continuing refusal to admit that MARS is NOT "run by amateurs." MARS is run by the MILITARY. However this IS a forum for me to state that you continue to promulgate a lie by trying to perpetuate that lie, Lennie. I never said that MARS was not run by the military, Lennie. Failure to validate that assertion is yet another LennieLie. I HAVE said, and correctly so, that No Amateur Radio = No MARS. 5. This forum is NOT about MARS at all, although the ASSIGNED MARS frequencies are OUTSIDE the ham bands. [sunnuvagun!] Sunnuvagun! Participation in the MARS program is predicated upon having an AMATEUR RADIO LICENSE...Remember...The one YOU said you didn't need to have to be a MARS participant. (2) YOU are the only one arguing about Morse Code-vs-teleprinter traffic, Lennie. The rest of us moved on YEARS ago. BULL####. Don't you PCTAs give that song and dance. You PCTAs can't dance and your singing voices are as flat as the 1930's attempted revival of vaudeville. Ahhhhhhhhhh....More profanity to fill in the holes...And Lennie...there you go giving orders again...And you always insinuating that "PCTA'S are Nazis"... You MIGHTY MACHO MORSEMEN just CANNOT admit that TTY was already downsizing manual morse a half century ago. Sucks to be retrograde recreators of ancient times, doesn't it? I wouldn't know...I am not the "retrograde recreator" of anything. (3) You are still not licensed in nor have any practical experience in AMATEUR RADIO communications. TSK, TSK, TSK. I'm a PROFESSIONAL in radio, have been since 1953. You are still not licensed in nor ahve any practical experience in AMATEUR RADIO communications. You continue to make significant errors on matters of Amateur policy AND practice. BULL####. YOU do NOT set what is "right" and what is "wrong." No, I don't. But the fact remains that you continue to make errors, almost on a weekly basis, about Amateur Radio practice and policy. Stebie, cut the bull####. I began in HF radio before you were born. I've both OPERATED and DESIGNED and BUILT (protoype) radios over MORE of the EM spectrum than amateurs have been allowed to in the 71 year life of the FCC. But the fact remains that you continue to make errors, almost on a weekly basis, about Amateur Radio practice and policy. Had you not STARTED it, perhaps we'd be carrying on a different conversation today. 1. I didn't "start" anything but an opposition to the morse code test for an AMATEUR radio license. You are a liar. You started in on the "Nazi", thugs", etc etc etc. Deja'd, Googled, filed for posterity. 3. I began and was QUALIFED to operate high-power HF transmitters in 1953...(SNIP) You were qualified to MAINTAIN those radios. You were not a qualified operator. (UNSNIPhaven't bothered much to get AUTHORIZATION to do so as an amateur...even though I've legally operated on HF (last year, from a sailboat, SSB 20 W PEP) without ANY radio license. Sunnuvagun! Actually that was year-before-last, Lennie...Or so your rants have gone... No more or no less than you are the role model of today's electronics engineer. I do NOT try to be any "role model of an engineer." It is impossible to be so ONE-SIDED and stubborn as you've shown in these "discussions" and still hold a job. I am not interviewing with you for a job. I wouldn't work for a habitual liar like you, Lennie... I've held my jobs, never been fired or "told to leave." No doubt. But you've not been asked back to at least one. Probably more. The name of this newsgroup's game seems to be junior high name-calling, posturing and preening over "seven hostile actions" and other wannabe stuff. [try for "HALO drop" one of the classic pipe-dreams of Stebie] Makes it even tougher for any newcomer to show interest in any hobby radio when all these middle-school drop- outs wanna be the Dill Instructor, closing the main gate to all but "their kind." "Their kind", Lennie...?!?! I've put far more NCT's into licenses than I have Extras. I DO know that pleanty of new hams are licensed every day...with AND without Morse Code skills. I know...I help a lot of them get here. How many kids have YOU helped into an electronics career or Amateur Radio, Lennie...?!?! Steve, K4YZ |
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From: "K4YZ" on Mon,May 2 2005 6:31 am
wrote: From: "K4YZ" on Sun,May 1 2005 5:42 am etc... Tsk, tsk, tsk. Poor Stebie...still envious AND FRUSTRATED. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nope...Not frustrated, Lennie...but just amazed at how much time you ahd on your hands to try and redirect from your own newsgroup silliness. "Ahd?" :-) Tsk, tsk, I'm retired from regular hours, can set my own hours. [sunnuvagun!] "Silliness?" :-) Poor Stebie spends much time on here attacking EVERYONE who doesn't agree with him. Tsk, tsk, that is visible "silliness" to all in here. As to "redirect," you have it backwards as usual. You must understand that your INSULTS against all who disagree with you are NOT all your way and that those who object to your personal attacks on them and respond is NOT a "redirect" of anything except your fantasy of being able to control this newsgroup's content. Example...you make NEW threads in here with the sole purpose of insulting and/or attempting to intimidate others...such as this "new" thread. You were a readio mechanic. "Readio?" Reallio? Typo. My Bad. You were still only a radio mechanic. Tsk, tsk, tsk..."mechanics" were in the motor pool doing maintenance on vehicles. Poor Stebie, never having had the opportunity of working REAL military communications thinks that all non-amateur "operating" is done as if in amateur radio. :-) Tsk, tsk, tsk. Primary MOS of Microwave Radio Relay Operation and Maintenance Supervisor. M A I N T E N A N C E. As in "mechanic". W R O N G :-) O P E R A T I O N and maintenance. That's what the U.S. Army stated it to be and still does. The definition for similar MOSs in the USN and USAF say the same. Stebie, the military of today and for the last half century have NOT done REAL radio O P E R A T I O N in an amateur fashion of one-operator-one-readio[sic]-pseQSL-UR599OM. :-) Maybe the USMC did it that way? Must be if the role model of today's murine says so... :-) Secondary MOS of Fixed Station (transmitters) Radio Operation and Maintenance Supervisor...and a few other little duties such as Carrier Operation and Maintenance (not that those Western Electric units had either drift or failure). The VHF-UHF radio relay equipment operation and maintenance fell under my primary MOS. Maintenance, maintenance, maintenance. R A D I O M E C H A N I C. Tsk, tsk, tsk...little Stebie fists his pudgy hands, pounds on the table, whines like a baby while REWRITING the United States military radio experience, definitions, and mission. Not one word of "OPERATOR" in there...Thanks for backing me up, Lennie. Tsk. Stebie must have tears of anger in his eyes clouding his vision. :-) Sorry, nursie, but OPERATING IS the name of the game in REAL, non-amateur radio operation for REAL communications, military OR civilian. The military and the civilian communications people do OPERATING. Regardless of your trying to control the definitions. They've done that for over a half century, longer than you've been alive (loosely speaking on 'alive'). OPERATION to REAL communications folks means KEEPING THE OPERATION GOING. To me, to them, it isn't taking recreational pleasure in front of a ready-built ricebox "tuning the bands" and diddling a morse key when not skimming pages of QST and dreaming of pioneer days in radio long before your time. But, Stebie, not having been IN the REAL radio communications activity, just doesn't know what OPERATING means other than playing with his readios [sic]. Period. You were not a message center clerk...You were not responsible for determining operating frequencies, modes, etc. Tsk, tsk. The Chief Signal Officer, Washington DC, did that sort of deciding for ALL involved in ACAN - STARCOM - DCS and still does for all the alphabet soup organization evolvement that followed after the 1960s. You were not a message center clerk...You were not responsible for determining operating frequencies, modes, etc. I "was not a message center clerk?" Tsk, tsk. You said I WAS, more than once. Have you forgotten? [of course you have and you will be demanding I produce the 'quote' from Google archives, claiming you never said that! :-) ] Actually, for the one month spent in ADA Control, I actually could determine which operating frequencies to use...depending on the signal reports generated by Receivers for the various radio circuits...and the permission of the Duty Officer, of course. There was a selection of frequencies, all fixed and crystal controlled back in the 1950s...no ALE then, no synthesizers and no "VFOs" to diddle in Fixed Station OPERATION. Signal strengths were HONEST, not the gratuitous "599" used by too many hams... too many others could see the same recorder charts of carrier signal strength out at Camp Owada (Receiver site shared with the USAF). "Not responsible for modes..." OF COURSE NOT. If the Chief Signal Office said that the San Francisco radio circuit would have a 4-channel SSB of 4 KW PEP -and- 4-TTY-via-MUX RTTY circuit of 10 KW RF output, WE - the entire station - WOULD OPERATE THAT and do it 24/7! ON DEFINITE, ASSIGNED FREQUENCIES, ALLOWING CHOICE ONLY BASED ON PROPAGATION CONDITIONS. REAL communications providers don't "work the bands" diddling with VFOs (and your alleged "greatness in tuning ability" - haw - that you "deserve to be called extra!"). In REAL communications on 24/7 assignment, one IS on frequency until ordered to change. Big snippage of usual stuff. ...because little Stebie REFUSES TO LEARN HOW *REAL* COMMUNICATIONS PEOPLE DO THINGS. Little Stebie, the Avenging Angle of Dearth, wants only to INSULT, DEFAME, DENIGRATE all those who disagree with him! Poor Stebie. 1. This forum is NOT for Stebie's experiences with the Commanding General of the First Marine Air Wing in NINETINE EIGHTY ONE!!! [24 years ago] Nope. But It was one of SEVERAL assignments that placed me in a position to OPERATE radios...Something you've not done. TSK, TSK, TSK. Stebie da wundermurine must give his "definition" of "operating" readios [sic]. So far, Stebie hasn't shown a single REFERENCE to ACTUALLY PROVE he did ANYTHING! He keeps getting things W R O N G on "operating radio in the military." Tsk, tsk, tsk. He keeps thinking that all radios are "operated" by acting like radio amateurs. United States military communications, the REAL thing, not the MARS recreational/morale stuff, is done in a PROFESSIONAL manner. 2. This forum is NOT for Stebie's BRAGS of mighty murine service in 'SEVEN HOSTILE ACTIONS!' "murine"...What's "murine", other than a commercial eye care product. Tsk, tsk, tsk...you don't get it, do you? :-) Robeson is EYEWASH. Sterile solution, "medically approved" only in that it doesn't harm the eyes. BWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TEMPER FRY little man. 3. This forum is NOT for Stebie's BRAGS of prowess in SUTURING or about his "medical qualifications." Wasn't bragging, Lennie. HOW DO WE KNOW? WHY SHOULD WE CARE? :-) Does suture tying have ANYTHING to do with RADIO OPERATING?!? :-) Keeping a bedpan handy might be good for all the "radiosport" contesters who like to rack up points. [nurses have to handle bedpans...before and after] Note: Few wastebaskets are waterproof and keeping one under the desk for those contest days can only harm the flooring. 4. This forum is NOT for Stebie's continuing refusal to admit that MARS is NOT "run by amateurs." MARS is run by the MILITARY. However this ISpromulgate a lie by trying to perpetuate that lie, Lennie. The Avenging Angle of Dearth keeps up his psychological syndrome of Projection...trying to project his own acts on those of his "opponents." Poor guy needs some mental therapy. Let's take "operator" again. Stebie said "I never 'operated'" a radio. That is at odds with both the old and new definitions of the USA Signal Corps, J-6 of the JCS, lots and lots of definitions in lots of USN publications, the civilian world in MANY places such as dictionaries (try the huge IEEE one, all concerned with ALL electronics... which includes radio). Stebie keeps trying to REWRITE everything in his OWN image...or fantasy. I have - most definitely - OPERATED military radios IN the military as both serviceperson AND as a civilian. OPERATED - by anyone's REAL definition - but not in Stebieworld. What's really bad is that I have both text and photos of me doing just that, some available on the Internet for anyone to see. Does Stebie have that? No? Tsk, tsk. We can all access QRZ and see a middle-aged male (?) in a flight suit sitting somewhere at some time. Is he OPERATING A RADIO? No. He just sitting there, scowling at the camera. Tsk, tsk. [get those teeth fixed so you can show a proper smile sometime] Stebie's "proof" of his military prowess is "in his wallet" or, in other words, out of sight, out of hearing. He say we got no business to see all that, he "doesn't have to show it." Tsk. Stebie doesn't have to be BELIEVED, either. Hans Brakob has DEFINITELY been IN the military, has OPERATED RADIO! He KNOWS what military radio operation IS. Hans says all the words which ARE FAMILIAR to the rest of us who HAVE OPERATED military radio. Stebie don't talk like dat, he mumble insults an' say everybody else LIE! Tsk, tsk, tsk. I never said that MARS was not run by the military, Lennie. Tsk. You will NOT say that the military DOES RUN MARS! :-) Department of Defense DOES DIRECT MARS. You've been shown the link to the very definition of that DIRECTIVE, visible to anyone accessing the DoD. You've been shown the link to OFFICIAL MARS HISTORY from the U.S. Army that ORIGINATED MARS. You've been shown the link to access the Army's MARS Headquarters at Fort Huachuca. Have you checked those references? No? You still want to flame others for not agreeing with your - now classic - "Sorry, Hans, MARS IS amateur radio!" :-) Failure to validate that assertion is yet another LennieLie. Merde! The Avenging Angle of Dearth keeps up his silly PROJECTION syndrome! I HAVE said, and correctly so, that No Amateur Radio = No MARS. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie got a bedpan over his eyes. MARS exists because the DoD has DIRECTED its existance. MARS has, and continues to run, exercises WITHOUT amateur volunteers. Try reading the MARS headquarters' statements instead of getting all your 'readio' information from ham magazines. Sunnuvagun! Participation in the MARS program is predicated upon having an AMATEUR RADIO LICENSE...Remember...The one YOU said you didn't need to have to be a MARS participant. Tsk, tsk, tsk. You are attempting "logical wordplay" again and FAIL. :-) MARS operators (in everyone else's definition of operator, not Stebie's) IN the military have to OPERATE their radios according to the commands they are given to do so. :-) Hello? The "M" in MARS is "MILITARY." Are you getting the connection? Yet? BULL####. Don't you PCTAs give that song and dance. You PCTAs can't dance and your singing voices are as flat as the 1930's attempted revival of vaudeville. Ahhhhhhhhhh....More profanity to fill in the holes... So...how many times has Stebie used the word PUTZ? Calling someone a PENIS HEAD (translation of the colloquial Yiddish pejorative "putz") is NOT profanity?!?!? Ah, yes, in Stebieworld, such is profanity only IF it is directed TO Stebie...Stebie can say ANYTHING he wants. :-) And does! :-) How about "pathological liar?" How many times has Stebie used such "civil" (in Stebieland) discourse? We - us readers - have lost count. Tsk, tsk, Stebie do his PROJECTION syndrome again and again, refusing to admit to wrongness and blaming everyone else for HIS faults. Tsk, tsk, a "marine" with "seven hostile actions" becoming disturbed about profanity?!?!? :-) TSK, TSK, TSK. I'm a PROFESSIONAL in radio, have been since 1953. You are still not licensed in nor ahve any practical experience in AMATEUR RADIO communications. Which means WHAT, little man? AMATEUR RADIO is NOT a business, NOT a guild, NOT a union, NOT a military service, NOT a civilian service. It is a recreational hobby pursuit, done for personal pleasure. Voluntary. AMATEUR RADIO works by the SAME physical laws as every other radio. [regardless of what some extras think it does] AMATEUR RADIO in the United States is regulated by the same federal agency as EVERY OTHER CIVIL RADIO SERVICE in the United States. No exceptions. Since the U.S. federal government regulates it, that allows ANY CITIZEN to exercise their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS to communicate with their government on ANY regulatory matter. [sunnuvagun!] So, little man, regardless of whether I "ahve" [sic] an AMATEUR radio license or not (I have a commercial radio license), it only matters to CONTROL FREAKS like yourself who can't seem to cow others into acknowledging their self-defined (unauthorized) "leadership" over others! :-) BTW, this is NOT a moderated newsgroup. Try under- standing (I know that is so hard for you) that YOU do NOT control the content nor anyone else's personal OPINION...of anything. You do NOT control who has access here nor are you "judge" of anything anywhere but in your own fevered little mind. But the fact remains that you continue to make errors, almost on a weekly basis, about Amateur Radio practice and policy. NO, sweetie, the "fact" does NOT "remain." You are W R O N G. Understand that Stebie's personal OPINION of anything is NOT law. It is seldom reality. The Avenging Angle of Dearth and "veteran of seven hostile actions" does not appear to live in reality. It may be too harsh for him... unknown...none of us can appreciate his psychosis? Yes, I DISAGREE on many of the things that the PCTA Double Standard extras think are "correct" and "right" and "how things should be." But, that disagreement does NOT mean that such is "wrong." That disagreement would ONLY be WRONG to the control freaks who demand obediance to the control freaks' commands. Stebie, cut the bull####. I began in HF radio before you were born. I've both OPERATED and DESIGNED and BUILT (protoype) radios over MORE of the EM spectrum than amateurs have been allowed to in the 71 year life of the FCC. But the fact remains that you continue to make errors, almost on a weekly basis, about Amateur Radio practice and policy. NO, sweetie, the "fact" does NOT "remain." You are W R O N G. Understand that Stebie's personal OPINION of anything is NOT law. It is seldom reality. The Avenging Angle of Dearth and "veteran of seven hostile actions" does not appear to live in reality. It may be too harsh for him... unknown...none of us can appreciate his psychosis? Yes, I DISAGREE on many of the things that the PCTA Double Standard extras think are "correct" and "right" and "how things should be." But, such disagreement does NOT mean that it is "wrong." :-) What IS wrong is trying to make everyone conform to your particular view of things. 1. I didn't "start" anything but an opposition to the morse code test for an AMATEUR radio license. You are a liar. No. :-) Ask Jim Kehler, KH2D. He was in here then. You were NOT. You started in on the "Nazi", thugs", etc etc etc. Deja'd, Googled, filed for posterity. Noooooo. :-) Only when some ex-Gomer Pyle jumped in, waving his swagger stick (or was that swaggering his waving stick?), and making like a ham version of Chesty Puller. That's ALL in Google...and saved to put up your posterior, er, posterity... Let's see...if someone struts like a Nazi, shouts like a Nazi, looks like a Nazi, then might very well BE a Nazi! [sunnuvagun!] But in Stebie (da Avenging Angle of Dearth) messaging, he be little more than Hitler Youth after too many "hostile actions." :-) 3. I began and was QUALIFED to operate high-power HF transmitters in 1953...(SNIP) You were qualified to MAINTAIN those radios. You were not a qualified operator. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Stebie da wundermurine is now calling the UNITED STATES MILIARY A LIAR. Official orders said what I wrote in here. Orders of the Signal Corps, United States Army. Official pictures taken by an official Signal photographer state that I was OPERATING a big radio transmitter...all in the official officialese of mimeo on the photo back, along with ID of the USA. "Qualified." Who is to judge of things in 1953 to 1956? Stebie da wundermurine? Noooo. That was before/during/just-after Stebie was born (probably with a congenital scowl). Stebie born with "qualifications" to judge who is "qualified?" :-) Maybe Stebie wanna call the FCC a LIAR!?! Got First 'Phone in Chicago office of FCC in 1956. FCC say I was "qualified," but, more importantly, gave me AUTHORIZATION! [sunnuvagun!] I am not interviewing with you for a job. Tsk. You aren't QUALIFIED to hold a Human Resources job. Personnel folks have to be human first... I wouldn't work for a habitual liar like you, Lennie... Sweat not, little man. I wouldn't even process the paperwork sent up by Personnel for your interview. I'd stick a little Post-It note on there and define you as "fulla****" for applying as a Purchasing Agent. I've held my jobs, never been fired or "told to leave." No doubt. But you've not been asked back to at least one. WRONG. Worked for Hughes Aircraft Company twice...Missle Division in Canoga Park, CA, the second time, first time at El Segundo Division. Probably more. Oh, and in case you are going to try that old "NADC thing" again, let me remind you of the REAL facts: I was there as a field representative FOR RCA Corporation on their SECANT R&D contract for system flight tests. Allatime getting paid by RCA, not the USN, and remaining with RCA afterwards. Never, ever "tried to get a job there" as you kept saying for years LONG after the fact. :-) "Their kind", Lennie...?!?! I've put far more NCT's into licenses than I have Extras. Show the proof. :-) Are their names logged in with your famous "seven hostile actions?" :-) Was one of them the Commanding General of the First Marine Air Wing in 1981? :-) Maybe their names are in your box of medals? :-) I DO know that pleanty of new hams are licensed every day...with AND without Morse Code skills. I know...I help a lot of them get here. Again, SHOW YOUR PROOF of your "help." Tsk, tsk, if you "help" like you carry on in here, you would NOT be authorized to be in any ham radio recruiting office...you'd have your portrait on the Post Office walls...as one of the "most wanted." How many kids have YOU helped into an electronics career or Amateur Radio, Lennie...?!?! I don't know about "kids," Stebie, but anyone who asked me about electronics as a hobby or about electronics as a PROFESSION would get a courteous explanation, information sources, and pointers on where to get more information. I am in both and have been for a long time...a hobbyist since '47 and a professional since '52. Radio is only a part of the entire, huge field of technology called electronics. I am a member of the Institute for Electrical and Electronics Engineering (IEEE) which is a worldwide professional association and has about a quarter million members (I could get the exact number but some flamers want to quibble about minutae). I find the whole huge field of electronics and electricity fascinating and never regretted getting into it. It has been rewarding to me both personally and financially. Like any association, the IEEE has its own self- promotion agenda and programs. I don't always agree on those agenda, perferring to promote interest at my own level with others in my group of professional acquaintences. That isn't restricted to "kids" or schoolchildren, either as a hobby or as a profession. Some in here like to say "the right" way to get into either is THEIR way. Not so. The only "right" way is to show an interest and become educated in what it is about. There are NO "requirements" to "show dedication or committment" in a HOBBY...that's an artificiality imposed by certain membership groups...largely to wave their own self-patriotic flags. I've never kept a "body count" on "recruitment." Neither have I attempted to brainwash any kiddies (teen agers, actually) at a couple of magnet schools. Straight talk, no group-self-patriotic bull****. One MUST have the personality and sense of speaking-and-being-understood in such efforts. Without it the audience, whether teens or adults, will listen if one can present a point about the subject. I have experience in that and some good, praised qualities for that but it's not my favorite thing to do now. Heh, I used to teach others how to do presentations...including having a "hostile" audience. Not hecklers, those that didn't want to learn anything. The best one can hope for there is that they got some information and - maybe - changed their minds. It doesn't hurt to know a few actors in the acting profession (I do) who can give pointers. :-) Now, give the rest of us Stebie's definition of OPERATING...and keep saying that everyone who doesn't agree with Stebie is a "LIAR." Nobody should expect otherwise... :-) |
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bb wrote: wrote: Now, give the rest of us Stebie's definition of OPERATING...and keep saying that everyone who doesn't agree with Stebie is a "LIAR." Nobody should expect otherwise... :-) What hasn't Steve/K4YZ crapped on? Steven J Robeson K4YZ K4CAP suffers from excrementia. K4CAP is not an active callsign, Brian. Why do you conntinue to make such glaring errors? It's making foolish errors that has made you the fool you are today. Steve, K4YZ |
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K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: wrote: Now, give the rest of us Stebie's definition of OPERATING...and keep saying that everyone who doesn't agree with Stebie is a "LIAR." Nobody should expect otherwise... :-) What hasn't Steve/K4YZ crapped on? Steven J Robeson K4YZ K4CAP suffers from excrementia. K4CAP is not an active callsign, Brian. Probably never was. Just some Bozo collecting cool callsigns. Why do you conntinue to make such glaring errors? Typical Robeson Slant and Rant. I said no such thing. You assume that I said that K4CAP was an active callsign, or you just lied. I think the latter. Active or not, it was issued to you, Bozo. It's making foolish errors that has made you the fool you are today. Steve, K4YZ Your misredirection failed miserably. I've just shown you to be the fool that I say you are. |
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From: bb on May 7, 9:38 pm
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: wrote: Now, give the rest of us Stebie's definition of OPERATING...and keep saying that everyone who doesn't agree with Stebie is a "LIAR." Nobody should expect otherwise... :-) What hasn't Steve/K4YZ crapped on? Steven J Robeson K4YZ K4CAP suffers from excrementia. K4CAP is not an active callsign, Brian. Probably never was. Just some Bozo collecting cool callsigns. LOTS of them. Credentialism. Good substitute for being able at something... Why do you conntinue to make such glaring errors? Typical Robeson Slant and Rant. I said no such thing. You assume that I said that K4CAP was an active callsign, or you just lied. I think the latter. Active or not, it was issued to you, Bozo. True enough. Note that it HAD to have "CAP" in the callsign. Very Important for the pudgies in poopy suits. However, Robeson has NOT stated what he thinks "operating" is. Tsk, tsk, I will accept what the United States Government has described, especially the U.S. Army who said I was at least three different kinds of OPERATOR during my years of military service. Stebie disagrees with the United States Government. Tsk, tsk. It's making foolish errors that has made you the fool you are today. Steve, K4YZ Your misredirection failed miserably. I've just shown you to be the fool that I say you are. Poor Stebie, once again with Projection on others what his own faults are. I don't know why he keeps that up. It doesn't work and annoys all the readers. Such misdirection (onto "personal faults" of others) might get him away from defining what Stebie thinks as "operator" is, but I doubt he has the courage (or conviction) to state that. Even if he did, it would be something about ham radio style "operating." :-) The United States military communications groups are PROFESSIONAL in all aspects, not amateur radio hobbyists. shrug |
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wrote in message ups.com... From: bb on May 7, 9:38 pm K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: wrote: Now, give the rest of us Stebie's definition of OPERATING...and keep saying that everyone who doesn't agree with Stebie is a "LIAR." Nobody should expect otherwise... :-) What hasn't Steve/K4YZ crapped on? Steven J Robeson K4YZ K4CAP suffers from excrementia. K4CAP is not an active callsign, Brian. Probably never was. Just some Bozo collecting cool callsigns. LOTS of them. Credentialism. Good substitute for being able at something... Why do you conntinue to make such glaring errors? Typical Robeson Slant and Rant. I said no such thing. You assume that I said that K4CAP was an active callsign, or you just lied. I think the latter. Active or not, it was issued to you, Bozo. True enough. Note that it HAD to have "CAP" in the callsign. Very Important for the pudgies in poopy suits. However, Robeson has NOT stated what he thinks "operating" is. Tsk, tsk, I will accept what the United States Government has described, especially the U.S. Army who said I was at least three different kinds of OPERATOR during my years of military service. Stebie disagrees with the United States Government. Tsk, tsk. It's making foolish errors that has made you the fool you are today. Steve, K4YZ Your misredirection failed miserably. I've just shown you to be the fool that I say you are. Poor Stebie, once again with Projection on others what his own faults are. I don't know why he keeps that up. It doesn't work and annoys all the readers. Such misdirection (onto "personal faults" of others) might get him away from defining what Stebie thinks as "operator" is, but I doubt he has the courage (or conviction) to state that. Even if he did, it would be something about ham radio style "operating." :-) The United States military communications groups are PROFESSIONAL in all aspects, not amateur radio hobbyists. shrug Hello, Len It just might be what a particular operator is familiar with. Back when (in the 60s) the military used a lot of HF point to point communications, they (the radiomen) were familiar with having to change frequencies, how to set crypto gear, and many other things. One thing they were *not* familiar with was how to handle a strong signal. When the communications station attempted to re-establish communications with Saipan, Hans, K0HB, was sent to Saipan. The communications station kept telling him he was "loud, but garbled". Big hint - too much signal for the local oscillator injection to properly demodulate the ssb. I called Hans from the hamshack (KG6AAY) and we (the hams) ended up not only establishing communications but got orders to pass traffic from Saipan to Commander, Naval Forces Marianas directly. I also recall whilst aboard ship we lost the "broadcast" - multiplex signals for many channels of teletypes. The problem was that we were getting to close to the station and we were in a skip zone. I suggested to the chief that we try LF (low frequency). He didn't think it would work, but said to give it a try as everything else was out. On LF, the signal was overpowering. In a few minutes, the broadcast was back up and running. In both of these instances, it was the hams that had the proper experience. I shan't go much further than to say that one day whilst aboard ship, we received an SOS on 500 KHz. It turns out that only *two* of us could actually copy Morse at any reasonable speed. I don't know about the other guy, but I was an amateur extra and also had a commercial telegraph license. The military radioman were *supposed* to be able to copy 16 words per minute to graduate from A school. Sorry to shoot your "professional" theory down. You aren't totally wrong, of course; it is what happens when the *unexpected* happens. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA |
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It just might be what a particular operator is familiar with. Back when (in the 60s) the military used a lot of HF point to point communications, they (the radiomen) were familiar with having to change frequencies, how to set crypto gear, and many other things. One thing they were *not* familiar with was how to handle a strong signal. When the communications station attempted to re-establish communications with Saipan, Hans, K0HB, was sent to Saipan. The communications station kept telling him he was "loud, but garbled". Big hint - too much signal for the local oscillator injection to properly demodulate the ssb. I called Hans from the hamshack (KG6AAY) and we (the hams) ended up not only establishing communications but got orders to pass traffic from Saipan to Commander, Naval Forces Marianas directly. I also recall whilst aboard ship we lost the "broadcast" - multiplex signals for many channels of teletypes. The problem was that we were getting to close to the station and we were in a skip zone. I suggested to the chief that we try LF (low frequency). He didn't think it would work, but said to give it a try as everything else was out. On LF, the signal was overpowering. In a few minutes, the broadcast was back up and running. In both of these instances, it was the hams that had the proper experience. I shan't go much further than to say that one day whilst aboard ship, we received an SOS on 500 KHz. It turns out that only *two* of us could actually copy Morse at any reasonable speed. I don't know about the other guy, but I was an amateur extra and also had a commercial telegraph license. The military radioman were *supposed* to be able to copy 16 words per minute to graduate from A school. Sorry to shoot your "professional" theory down. You aren't totally wrong, of course; it is what happens when the *unexpected* happens. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA My gosh, I never knew. It is nothing short of a miracle that the today's active military forces can still attain any level of readiness, with you and Hans no longer on active duty. 73, Sparky |
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bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: wrote: Now, give the rest of us Stebie's definition of OPERATING...and keep saying that everyone who doesn't agree with Stebie is a "LIAR." Nobody should expect otherwise... :-) What hasn't Steve/K4YZ crapped on? Steven J Robeson K4YZ K4CAP suffers from excrementia. K4CAP is not an active callsign, Brian. Probably never was. Just some Bozo collecting cool callsigns. More idiocy. Why do you keep doing this to yourself, Brian? Why do you conntinue to make such glaring errors? Typical Robeson Slant and Rant. "Slant and Rant"..?!?! A new spin to hide your failed efforts to hide yuor own mistruths and cowardice, Brian P...?!?! I said no such thing. You assume that I said that K4CAP was an active callsign, or you just lied. I think the latter. You're attaching it to your posts as if it were an active callsign. That's not factual. Anyone who accesses "QRZ.COM" knows you're off base, Brian. Active or not, it was issued to you, Bozo. "Bozo" now! Getting a bit miffed that your attempts to get around the fact that you've been bested again, eh, Brain...??? It's making foolish errors that has made you the fool you are today. Steve, K4YZ Your misredirection failed miserably. I've just shown you to be the fool that I say you are. You've shown nothing, except that you are making a fool out of yourself by addressing me with a callsign that I've not held for 2 years. Not that you need one more thing to add to your CV, Brain. Steve, K4YZ |
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K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: wrote: Now, give the rest of us Stebie's definition of OPERATING...and keep saying that everyone who doesn't agree with Stebie is a "LIAR." Nobody should expect otherwise... :-) What hasn't Steve/K4YZ crapped on? Steven J Robeson K4YZ K4CAP suffers from excrementia. K4CAP is not an active callsign, Brian. Probably never was. Just some Bozo collecting cool callsigns. More idiocy. Why do you keep doing this to yourself, Brian? By "more idiocy" are you claiming that the callsign was never issued to you, or that you never activated the callsign, or that it wasn't a cool callsign, or that you're not Bozo? Be specific, but precise. Limit your answer to 200 words or less. Why do you conntinue to make such glaring errors? Typical Robeson Slant and Rant. "Slant and Rant"..?!?! A new spin to hide your failed efforts to hide yuor own mistruths and cowardice, Brian P...?!?! So why did you attempt to diss your K4CAP call? Convenience? I said no such thing. You assume that I said that K4CAP was an active callsign, or you just lied. I think the latter. You're attaching it to your posts as if it were an active callsign. That's not factual. Anyone who accesses "QRZ.COM" knows you're off base, Brian. K4CAP was not issued to you? You didn't tag tour RRAP posts with K4CAP? Slant and Rant is your trademark. Active or not, it was issued to you, Bozo. "Bozo" now! Getting a bit miffed that your attempts to get around the fact that you've been bested again, eh, Brain...??? If K4CAP was not issued to you, and if your never posted to RRAP with the tagline of K4CAP, then you indeed have bested me. Hi! But the archives say you lie. It's making foolish errors that has made you the fool you are today. Steve, K4YZ Your misredirection failed miserably. I've just shown you to be the fool that I say you are. You've shown nothing, I've shown your to be a fool and a liar. Again. It's so easy - I don't know why you keep coming back for more? You must love humiliation. except that you are making a fool out of yourself by addressing me with a callsign that I've not held for 2 years. You've made that callsign infamous with your never ending Slants and Rants on RRAP. Idiot. bb |
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