KØHB wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote


So here we are.



Yup, and no one has persuaded me it can't be done. I've only been persuaded
that we haven't figured out how yet. (Sorta reminds you, doesn't it, of how
those old-tymey hams must have felt when they were told to take their party to
"200 meters and below".) You, Jim, and Dee bemoaning how hard it will be, and
John raising the tantalizing notion that we may only be a few "eureka!!!"s away
from something workable.

He also give a lot of solid technical ways in which this can be done, eh?


Outside my area of competence, but I'll watch the
dialog with interest.

Hey, Hans, ignorance is not a crime! Note that Jim brought up an
*actual* method of trying to do a lot of BW using 256 or more phase
angles that are decoded by the receiving station. That is not likely to
work at HF, but a simplified version of this is used for some satellite
comms. they (see my link in my post to Jim) note that QPSK is more
reliable - or at least suffers less from link degradation - same thing,
than 8PSK. But there is some theory there that can be discussed.

And as for "bemoaning", I have been asking for something based in
solid theory since early in this thread. Most of what I have gotten in
return is that I am an olde tyme ham (untrue) stuck on CW with my Bug
(paraphrased, but laughably untrue), and topic shifted to DRM voice
(technically working, but beside the point). That ain't substance.

From: Mike Coslo on Mon 4 Jul 2005 23:46

John Smith wrote:

I'm willing to help you with the initial experiments. In fact, in the
interest of the furtherance of Ham radio, science, and mankind, I have
challenged you to produce such a system.

Tsk. Coslonautics, ink, is still challenged to reach the "threshold
of space" as announced last year...going where other ham radio
balloons have gone before. It is now nearly mid-summer and no
flight, no tests, no words.

"Up up and awaaayyyyy....!"

We are all awaiting your famous flight to advance ham radio,
science and mankind in general.

Yawn....

bit bit

wrote:

Tsk. Coslonautics, ink, is still challenged to reach the "threshold
of space" as announced last year...going where other ham radio
balloons have gone before. It is now nearly mid-summer and no
flight, no tests, no words.

Glad you asked! "Things" are moving along well enough, much of the
equipment has been chosen, yet needs to be integrated. Flight 1 will be
tethered to shake down the payload, flight two will be a short,
relatively low altitude flight. At flight 3, the payload form factor
will be changed. Beyond that, the flights will build on the success or
problems encountered during previous flights.

That's all the words you get.

There will be web pages devoted to the project. At that time you can
read and ridicule, but you'll have to go to the website to get yer material.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Mike Coslo wrote:
wrote:

Tsk. Coslonautics, ink, is still challenged to reach the "threshold
of space" as announced last year...going where other ham radio
balloons have gone before. It is now nearly mid-summer and no
flight, no tests, no words.


Glad you asked! "Things" are moving along well enough, much of the
equipment has been chosen, yet needs to be integrated. Flight 1 will be
tethered to shake down the payload, flight two will be a short,
relatively low altitude flight. At flight 3, the payload form factor
will be changed. Beyond that, the flights will build on the success or
problems encountered during previous flights.

That's all the words you get.

There will be web pages devoted to the project. At that time you can
read and ridicule, but you'll have to go to the website to get yer
material.

Why dontcha ask Len how that "Extra right out of the box" is coming
along. How many years down the road has that been now?

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:

Why dontcha ask Len how that "Extra right out of the box"
is coming
along. How many years down the road has that been now?

More than five and a half years ago - January 19, 2000, to be exact.
But hey, Len didn't say *when* he was going to do it....

Neither did Mike, IIRC....

73 de Jim, N2EY

Dave Heil wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:

wrote:

Tsk. Coslonautics, ink, is still challenged to reach the "threshold
of space" as announced last year...going where other ham radio
balloons have gone before. It is now nearly mid-summer and no
flight, no tests, no words.



Glad you asked! "Things" are moving along well enough, much of the
equipment has been chosen, yet needs to be integrated. Flight 1 will
be tethered to shake down the payload, flight two will be a short,
relatively low altitude flight. At flight 3, the payload form factor
will be changed. Beyond that, the flights will build on the success or
problems encountered during previous flights.

That's all the words you get.

There will be web pages devoted to the project. At that time you
can read and ridicule, but you'll have to go to the website to get yer
material.


Why dontcha ask Len how that "Extra right out of the box" is coming
along. How many years down the road has that been now?

No point to it.

Not sure why he is so anxious for us to launch something. I don't
recall setting any particular deadline.

No biggie.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Mike Coslo wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

Mike Coslo wrote:

wrote:

Tsk. Coslonautics, ink, is still challenged to reach the "threshold
of space" as announced last year...going where other ham radio
balloons have gone before. It is now nearly mid-summer and no
flight, no tests, no words.




Glad you asked! "Things" are moving along well enough, much of
the equipment has been chosen, yet needs to be integrated. Flight 1
will be tethered to shake down the payload, flight two will be a
short, relatively low altitude flight. At flight 3, the payload form
factor will be changed. Beyond that, the flights will build on the
success or problems encountered during previous flights.

That's all the words you get.

There will be web pages devoted to the project. At that time you
can read and ridicule, but you'll have to go to the website to get
yer material.



Why dontcha ask Len how that "Extra right out of the box" is coming
along. How many years down the road has that been now?


No point to it.

Not sure why he is so anxious for us to launch something. I don't
recall setting any particular deadline.

No biggie.

Surely you know that Len is the very opposite of being anxious for you
to launch. If you had a sucessful launch, it'd take away his ammunition.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:

Mike Coslo wrote:

No point to it.

Not sure why he is so anxious for us to launch something. I don't
recall setting any particular deadline.

No biggie.


Surely you know that Len is the very opposite of being anxious for you
to launch. If you had a sucessful launch, it'd take away his ammunition.


I doubt that, Dave. 8^)

- Mike KB3EIA -

From: Mike Coslo on Tues 5 Jul 2005 22:44

wrote:

Tsk. Coslonautics, ink, is still challenged to reach the "threshold
of space" as announced last year...going where other ham radio
balloons have gone before. It is now nearly mid-summer and no
flight, no tests, no words.

Glad you asked! "Things" are moving along well enough, much of the
equipment has been chosen, yet needs to be integrated. Flight 1 will be
tethered to shake down the payload, flight two will be a short,
relatively low altitude flight. At flight 3, the payload form factor
will be changed. Beyond that, the flights will build on the success or
problems encountered during previous flights.

That's all the words you get.

So, "flight 1" hasn't gotten off the ground yet...

Been almost a year since you started cheering for yourself
in this newsgroup.

There will be web pages devoted to the project. At that time you can
read and ridicule, but you'll have to go to the website to get yer material.

Nothing's happening yet, is it? Everything on the ground.

Think of it this way: "Outer space" is only an hour's drive
away...if your car can drive straight up, that is...

Be sure and notify the NY Times, Wall Street Journal, National
Geographic to be on the alert for the Latest News from Launch
Control. Once you are out to launch, you might be out to lunch.

Bone apetite.

BTW, will you have "live streaming video" from das balloon?

Keep the bandwidth down, senior, you can't interfere with
others' communications, despite the glory and grandeur of this
(not yet) accomplishment.

"Up, up, and awwaaaayyyyyy!" Yawn.

bit bit