On 4 Dec 2005 08:31:22 -0800, wrote in
. com:


K4YZ wrote:
Frankie of Silliland intentionally lied when he wrote:

He was in the USMC alright, and he was a reservist.

Nope. Active Duty, save for the Delayed Entry Program.

Is your delayed entry period on your DD Form 214? I mean, would it be
on there if you had one?


If it was counted as inactive reserve, it would be noted in box 12(e).







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wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Frankie of Silliland intentionally lied when he wrote:

He was in the USMC alright, and he was a reservist.

Nope. Active Duty, save for the Delayed Entry Program.

Is your delayed entry period on your DD Form 214? I mean, would it be
on there if you had one?

I have several DD214's.

All of them have the word "Honorable" on them without exception or
qualifier.

We all know he has
been tight-lipped about his service because he didn't want to expose
the truth about his service. And we also know that he lied about his
"retirement".

Nope.

Yup.

But what you may not know is that he wasn't discharged
for medical reasons, either. He simply quit. And not voluntarily, I
might add. Too bad he quit -before- Clinton's "don't ask, don't tell"
policy.....

Uh huh...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

He might have been able to have a full career.

Uniforms impress young boys.

It impressed you.

Your flight-suit photo impresses no one.

Uhhhhhhhhh....not true, and that comment was not mine, Brain.

Too bad it didn't impress you enough to honor your commitment and
stay out of trouble for ONE enlistment, Frankie.

Does your nurse uniform impress you enough to honor your oath and stay
out of medical trouble? Or does your oath encourage you to shoot your
mouth off and give medical advice on rrap?

I'll make you a deal...you stop trying to offer advice on MARS
(any branch), unlicensed devices used in emergency comms, the ARES, the
ARRL, and operating DXpeditions (all topics that you've failed
miserably at anyway...) and I won't even remotely suggest anything of
a medical or nursing nature to you in the future.

Deal?

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Frankie of Silliland intentionally lied when he wrote:

He was in the USMC alright, and he was a reservist.

Nope. Active Duty, save for the Delayed Entry Program.

Is your delayed entry period on your DD Form 214? I mean, would it be
on there if you had one?

I have several DD214's.

All of them have the word "Honorable" on them without exception or
qualifier.

Frank says block 12E. I'll check mine.

We all know he has
been tight-lipped about his service because he didn't want to expose
the truth about his service. And we also know that he lied about his
"retirement".

Nope.

Yup.

But what you may not know is that he wasn't discharged
for medical reasons, either. He simply quit. And not voluntarily, I
might add. Too bad he quit -before- Clinton's "don't ask, don't tell"
policy.....

Uh huh...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

He might have been able to have a full career.

Uniforms impress young boys.

It impressed you.

Your flight-suit photo impresses no one.

Uhhhhhhhhh....not true, and that comment was not mine, Brain.

Name one person (even if it's not a young boy) that was impressed by
that photo.

Too bad it didn't impress you enough to honor your commitment and
stay out of trouble for ONE enlistment, Frankie.

Does your nurse uniform impress you enough to honor your oath and stay
out of medical trouble? Or does your oath encourage you to shoot your
mouth off and give medical advice on rrap?

I'll make you a deal...you stop trying to offer advice on MARS
(any branch),

Sorry, but I have actual experience in MARS.

unlicensed devices used in emergency comms, the ARES, the
ARRL,

Sorry, but I am an ARRL member, and have been an ARES member. I just
can't keep quiet where my expertise is needed.

Concerning unlicensed devices, they are a part of everyday life.

and operating DXpeditions (all topics that you've failed
miserably at anyway...)

Sorry, but I have experience in operating from several DX locations,
and my experience and expertise is ocassionally needed to correct the
inaccurate statements made by people who should know better.

and I won't even remotely suggest anything of
a medical or nursing nature to you in the future.

Deal?

Steve, K4YZ

Don't post it to -anyone- on RRAP in the future. Might keep you out of
trouble.

hot-ham-and-cheese:
K4YZ wrote:
Frank Gilliland wrote:

He was in the USMC alright, and he was a reservist.

Nope. Active Duty, save for the Delayed Entry Program.

Is your delayed entry period on your DD Form 214? I mean, would it be
on there if you had one?

I have several DD214's.

All of them have the word "Honorable" on them without exception or
qualifier.

Tsk, you could have HUNDREDS of DD-214 forms...all blank. Kinko's
and other printing services (such as "job printer" independents)
can do such work a minimal cost.

So far, none of us have seen "yours" as filled out by authorities.

A DD-214 (filled out by authorities) has always been, and remains,
a RELEASE FROM ACTIVE DUTY. It was NEVER a "discharge" document.
Each military branch of the United States has their own discharge
from all military service and those are different forms.

A close look at the upper right hand corner will show "Condition
of Release" as it pertains to the DD-214. That refers to the
RELEASE FROM ACTIVE DUTY. RELEASE, not discharge.

So far, none of us have been able to see what is on "yours."

Here's the drill:

1. Take your (filled out by authorities) DD-214 to a scanner.
If you had later changes to the DD-214, take along your
DD-215 form (filled out by authorities) as well.

2. If you have none of "yours" available, go to the NARA
website and order a duplicate (they have forms for doing
it by surface mail). The cost is minimal, even to one
on a disability pension.

3. Make the scanned digital copy file available for
inspection by anyone, either posting it to your home page
or sending it as an attachment to e-mail directly to
those requesting a copy.

Following that simple 3-step process fully will end the endless
foul invectives you've hurled at all those challengers in
trying to avoid showing the truth for seven years.

Failure to comply will only result in all of us affirming that
you are nothing but an Imposter, a scam artist, a con-man, a
poseur, an imitator who is casting dishonor on the Corps.

On 5 Dec 2005 17:45:14 -0800, wrote in
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hot-ham-and-cheese:
K4YZ wrote:
Frank Gilliland wrote:

He was in the USMC alright, and he was a reservist.

Nope. Active Duty, save for the Delayed Entry Program.

Is your delayed entry period on your DD Form 214? I mean, would it be
on there if you had one?

I have several DD214's.

All of them have the word "Honorable" on them without exception or
qualifier.

Tsk, you could have HUNDREDS of DD-214 forms...all blank. Kinko's
and other printing services (such as "job printer" independents)
can do such work a minimal cost.

So far, none of us have seen "yours" as filled out by authorities.

A DD-214 (filled out by authorities) has always been, and remains,
a RELEASE FROM ACTIVE DUTY. It was NEVER a "discharge" document.
Each military branch of the United States has their own discharge
from all military service and those are different forms.

A close look at the upper right hand corner will show "Condition
of Release" as it pertains to the DD-214. That refers to the
RELEASE FROM ACTIVE DUTY. RELEASE, not discharge.

So far, none of us have been able to see what is on "yours."

Here's the drill:

1. Take your (filled out by authorities) DD-214 to a scanner.
If you had later changes to the DD-214, take along your
DD-215 form (filled out by authorities) as well.

2. If you have none of "yours" available, go to the NARA
website and order a duplicate (they have forms for doing
it by surface mail). The cost is minimal, even to one
on a disability pension.

3. Make the scanned digital copy file available for
inspection by anyone, either posting it to your home page
or sending it as an attachment to e-mail directly to
those requesting a copy.

Following that simple 3-step process fully will end the endless
foul invectives you've hurled at all those challengers in
trying to avoid showing the truth for seven years.

Failure to comply will only result in all of us affirming that
you are nothing but an Imposter, a scam artist, a con-man, a
poseur, an imitator who is casting dishonor on the Corps.


I don't think it matters anymore -- his ignorant blatherings are more
than enough evidence to prove that he was never a Devil Dog. And if he
should ever produce a DD-214 in the future, I wouldn't be convinced of
it's authenticity even if the CMC hand-delivered it to my door.

The game is over. He lost. Only one question remains..... what shall
be the disposition of Steve "Yellow Dog" Robeson?







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From: Frank Gilliland on Dec 5, 6:56 pm

On 5 Dec 2005 17:45:14 -0800, wrote in
hot-ham-and-cheese:
K4YZ wrote:
Frank Gilliland wrote:


I have several DD214's.

All of them have the word "Honorable" on them without exception or
qualifier.

Tsk, you could have HUNDREDS of DD-214 forms...all blank. Kinko's
and other printing services (such as "job printer" independents)
can do such work a minimal cost.

So far, none of us have seen "yours" as filled out by authorities.

A DD-214 (filled out by authorities) has always been, and remains,
a RELEASE FROM ACTIVE DUTY. It was NEVER a "discharge" document.
Each military branch of the United States has their own discharge
from all military service and those are different forms.

A close look at the upper right hand corner will show "Condition
of Release" as it pertains to the DD-214. That refers to the
RELEASE FROM ACTIVE DUTY. RELEASE, not discharge.

So far, none of us have been able to see what is on "yours."

Here's the drill:

1. Take your (filled out by authorities) DD-214 to a scanner.
If you had later changes to the DD-214, take along your
DD-215 form (filled out by authorities) as well.

2. If you have none of "yours" available, go to the NARA
website and order a duplicate (they have forms for doing
it by surface mail). The cost is minimal, even to one
on a disability pension.

3. Make the scanned digital copy file available for
inspection by anyone, either posting it to your home page
or sending it as an attachment to e-mail directly to
those requesting a copy.

Following that simple 3-step process fully will end the endless
foul invectives you've hurled at all those challengers in
trying to avoid showing the truth for seven years.

Failure to comply will only result in all of us affirming that
you are nothing but an Imposter, a scam artist, a con-man, a
poseur, an imitator who is casting dishonor on the Corps.

I don't think it matters anymore -- his ignorant blatherings are more
than enough evidence to prove that he was never a Devil Dog. And if he
should ever produce a DD-214 in the future, I wouldn't be convinced of
it's authenticity even if the CMC hand-delivered it to my door.

Roger that! I agree with you.

The game is over. He lost. Only one question remains..... what shall
be the disposition of Steve "Yellow Dog" Robeson?

His corpus is bio-degradable. That's all the suggestion I can
offer on "disposition." It might make suitable fertilizer for
something...?

Wait...here's a thought...teach him some Arabic, enough to get
along...strap on him as much explosive as he can carry, set him
loose among some extremist Muslim in the Middle East with orders
to go BOOM amongst them. Kind of a small payback for what those
extremist numb-nuts have been doing to us and good Muslims for
years. "Disposal" neatly solved (parts too small to recover).

Perhaps too Draconian for the lily-livered peacenik sissies in
here, though. Cancel that. Might be a waste of good C4 or RDX
and hook-up wire.

Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 5 Dec 2005 17:45:14 -0800, wrote in
.com:

Failure to comply will only result in all of us affirming that
you are nothing but an Imposter, a scam artist, a con-man, a
poseur, an imitator who is casting dishonor on the Corps.

Sorry, Your Scumminess.

I've provided handfuls of other verifiable references to my
military service that you've dissed and pooh-poohed, so this is not
happpening.

I don't think it matters anymore -- his ignorant blatherings are more
than enough evidence to prove that he was never a Devil Dog.

"...ignorant blatherings..."

Interesting choice of adjectives coming from a "guy" who was too
wimpy to make it through ONE enlistment in the Corps without betting
court martialed TWICE.

And if he
should ever produce a DD-214 in the future, I wouldn't be convinced of
it's authenticity even if the CMC hand-delivered it to my door.

Then I guess it's a good thing that we';re not really concerned
with what a liar and coward cares about MY duty status.

The game is over. He lost.

You remind me of the folks who try to declare "victory" while
laying on the mat bruised and bloodied.

Only one question remains..... what shall
be the disposition of Steve "Yellow Dog" Robeson?

Bad choices of new diminutives, Frankie...

But let's not dwell on that...Let's dwell on what we can do with
Bloodied Nose Gilliland, instead.

Steve, K4YZ

From: K4YZ on Dec 6, 12:32 am show options


Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 5 Dec 2005 17:45:14 -0800, wrote in


Failure to comply will only result in all of us affirming that
you are nothing but an Imposter, a scam artist, a con-man, a
poseur, an imitator who is casting dishonor on the Corps.

Sorry, Your Scumminess.

I've provided handfuls of other verifiable references to my
military service that you've dissed and pooh-poohed, so this is not
happpening.

Dudly has FAILED TO COMPLY.

Dudly has NOTHING to show to prove his claims.

Dudly has had NOTHING for seven years in here.

Dudly is NOTHING but an imposter, a scan artist, a con-man,
a poseur, and imitator and hero-wannabe who casts great
dishonor on the United States Marine Corps.

On 2 Nov 2005 23:03:53 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:


wrote:
On 2 Nov 2005 12:29:10 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:
wrote:
On 2 Nov 2005 10:13:54 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:
wrote:
cut
yes I am

That's DOUBLE freakin hillarious!

glad you enjoyed it

Who said I "enjoyed" it...?!?!

you did

I said it was "hillarious".

another lie

THAT'S FREAKIN' HILLARIOUS!

glad you enjoyed it

On, no, Markie...we're laughing AT you, not WITH you!

either way gald you enjoyed it

"glad"

I didn't say I enjoyed it...I said it was hillarious.

nice and compact this lie

Please, Markie...provide us with some references to various
Amateur Radio related discussions in Amateur Radio related journals
that highlight you, Frankie, Brain, or any of the rest of your
"circle"?

no thanks

Uhhhh..."no thanks" was the wrong answer.

bull@@@@ it was the right answer

No, it was a direct "evasion".

another steve forgery right above

YOU claim that Dave Heil is a "nobody", yet I can find numerous
references to him in all of the major Amateur Radio journals over tha
last 10-12 years...I find NO SUCH references to you or any of the rest
of your "circle".

dave is a nobody

publication does not make him (or you) a human being


"Not able" was.

but Dave is a nobody as are you

Whelp...There you have it...Frankie AND Markie opting for the
"stinging personal insult" in the face of no other options to persue!

more lying by Stevie...(SNIP)

Nope. You called Dave a "nobody" when I can readily find HIS name
in numerous references in Amateur Radio related publications. And at
least I've been quoted twice in "CQ" magazine, had several letters
published in CQ and QST, and have my name in such references as "DXCC"
and the contest scores over the years.

claiming your contest scores make someone?

what a lie

your contest score prove one thing you entered .. no lets us get that
right on the ark it proves you claimed to have entered the contest


I find NO such references to KB9RQZ in any of them.

but you yourself emailed me on My entry in CQ VHF

another lie or carefull drawn distortion if you prefer

he must be very afarid these days with the way he
goes on and on and on about things

I see you're back to delusional episodes, Markie.

anybody that is such lying hypocrite as you 2 ceratinly qualifies as
nobody in my book

The problem for YOU is that you've proved NEITHER of those
assertions!

proved em both, to any one with any objectivity

No, you've not. Not by a long stretch.

but that does let you out I know

nor do I have to prove em to form the opinion

it is also no problem ME at all

More random words in search of order, Markie.

Try E N G L I S H......

On the OTHER hand, I can find quite a few articles in various
publications over the last 10 years that mention Dave Heil in nothing
but glowing terms....

so?

he advocates poor ham practice by his own words

No he doesn't.

sure does we had that arguement before all you did was keeping
claiming he did not over and over again

Because HE didn't.

not a spread of proof on your part of course

"...a spread of proof..."

Must be an Upper Penninsula thing....

pruning shear out again

No, you did NOT "do it well", save perhaps in YOUR imagination.

wether he did or did not is something YOU don't know Stevie

Sure it is!

nope

Sure it is!

To state otherwise is for YOU to call Frankie a liar!

not a tall

"not a tall"...?!?!

So..Frankie's only...what? 5'3"...?!?!

ctuing stevie repating himself

"cutting" "repeating"

More of your censorship and issues you do not want to address, is
what yoiu mean.

That's the same as YOU getting hauled into General Sessions Court,
Markie...And Frankie's probably lucky that the Armed Forces' practice
is to just let idiots like him go at the end of their enlsitment rather
than putting them in the brig...It's far chaper to do it taht way...And
he now has two FEDERAL convictions on his record.

so?

I see criminal records are your favorite kind.

another Stevie lie

Nope.

You think Frankie's court martials are "nothing". They FEDERAL
convictions, regardless of whether he was "found guilty" or "pled
guilty".

it is true I don't see having a criminal record as the end of the
world or as something akin to treason

No...I won't go as far as calling Frankie's conduct treason, nor
the end of the world...However HE tries to make issue of MY
military service when to call HIS service "less than adequate" would be
giving him one huge benefit of the doubt.

Marines with TWO courts martials in one tour are NOT "good"
Marines.

and who appointed you judge?

Four Commanding Offiers that effected my promotions to Private
First Class through Sergeant, and the Commandant of the Marine Corps on
my promotions to Staff Sergeant and Gunnery Sergeant.

another lie

they did not appoint you judge

Sure they did.

prove it

Six documents signed by four commanding officers and two
Commandants addressed to me that start off with the words 'To All Those
Who Shall See These Presents Greetings'.....

Those certificates of appointment (better known in the Corps as
"promotion warrants") gave me the authority to make those decisons.
That's why the Marine Corps has the widest Enlisted-to-Officer ratio of
all the services.

stevie lie stevie get cut off and find his typing was wasted

No, it wasn't wasted.

Your feeble attempts to act as censor substantiated their efforts
as valid, Markie.

Steve, K4YZ

everyone should be advised that The following person
has been advocating the abuse of elders making false charges of child rape, rape in general forges post and name

he may also be making flase reports of abusing other in order to attak and cow his foes
he also shows signs of being dangerously unstable

he regualrly makes threats of aresst or of the power to confine folks againsthere will

he is lying of course

STEVEN J ROBESON
151 12TH AVE NW
WINCHESTER TN 37398
931-967-6282

well stevie you assked for it you got it
Mark Morgan


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