"Mike Painter" wrote in message
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Jeff wrote:
"Mike Painter" wrote in message
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Dude - I DO think - every ****ing day about those 3000 + killed.

And they think about the tens of thousands who hve died at the hand
of American arms.

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That is why they call it "war", and that is unfortunately
how you win wars. Every "real" leader i.e. Patton, have known this
for a long time. There is no
such thing as a "surgical" war. I dont care how careful you are.
Those ragheads have been terrorizing, and blowing people up for a
long, long time. Its time to
end it, no matter what it takes. If we dont, your grandkids will be
praying to Allah someday. Phrase from the Koran: " By the sword ye
shall convert"
And these *******s are seeing to it. Kill them ALL now, no matter
what it
takes ( Period ). But unfortunately we dont even need to have the
ragheads
ruin us,, the bleeding hearts in this country are already doing it
for them.

Gosh, where have I heard that before. I remember, it was when we were
trying to stop the domionos by fighting in Viet Nam.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Lets try to compare apples to apples, instead of apples to potatoes.


Phrases from the bible,
Matthew 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,
but a sword.

Luke 12:51
Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but
rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house
divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be
divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against
the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against
her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Luke 22:36
He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

That's cute,,, relevance??


J

"Mike Painter" wrote in message
. ..

And the women and children who have died every day from bombs, bullets
and
starvation since the first gulf war had nothing to do with 9/11.
In fact there probably were no people from Iraq on the planes and *you*
buy some of your gas from the country with the most people represented
Saudi, Arabia.


The "Gulf war" as you said, had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11. I'll
agree with you there. That was a whole different story. However - HAD they
allowed the General in charge to finish the job, THIS Iraq war may not be
happening.

I doubt you know enought about your religion to call Islam flawed.

I never pretended, admitted to or claimed to be a "religious" finatic or
"follower" if you will. Not of "Christianity", Buddhism (sp?), any others
and CERTAINLY not "Islam". But - I DO know what I've seen and heard with my
own ears and eyes. Those pricks want all who do NOT follow Islam - to die.
They are NOT practicing a "peaceful" religion as much as they'd love to
think. So, if you think Islam is so great - why don't YOU go to Afghanistan
and join OBL and take what comes to you. You "seem" to support it in
defending it.


I suppose you feel that way against the German's, Japanese, British,
Native American's and others who have killed far more Americans than were
killed in 9/11.

Eh - I think your history is a bit ****ed up. It is the people who came to
America - who KILLED the "Native" Americans. WE essentially took their land
off them and in the end - they have like maybe a millionth of what they once
owned. I'm not proud of that - but THAT is history!

As to the other wars - were it not for a nut case like Hitler - just as
Saddam and the Japanese leader whose name I've forgotten - those wars may
never have been fought. Never did "I" say I agreed with them. BUT since they
were started - those fruit cakes had to be stopped. THEY alone are
responsible for the loss of innocent lives. ANYONE who "starts" a war -
wears the blood. Now, as for THIS Iraq war - I have in past posts and shall
in this one - DETEST it. I didn't agree with it then nor do I now. BUT - I
DO AND WILL support our troops. They're doing what they are sent to do -
even if "they" don't agree with it. OBL and that dick head from N. Korea are
the two latest nuts that need dealt with. NOT so much the people - but the
assholes that are convincing them. What I DID agree to - is going to
Afghanistan to find OBL and deliver his cold dead sorry ass on a silver
stretcher. BUT Bush lost track of that and went wondering on to Iraq. We
should have devoted ALL resources to finish that first job. Had we done
that - OBL and his dick sucking buds might all be dead now - and with no
leader with "money" - maybe the other "rag heads" would stop their fateful
dreaming.


Dude - I DO think - every ****ing day about those 3000 + killed.

And they think about the tens of thousands who hve died at the hand of
American arms.


They died because others were attacked first and we stuck our nose in to
defend those being attacked - in whatever manner. REMEMBER - we even helped
Iraq at one time - against Iran. Strange - how we now battle in Iraq AND in
the U.N. at least for now - with their foe as well - Iran. THAT is our
problem - we ALWAYS stick our nose in. Those assholes in that area have been
fighting for CENTURIES. WHO the hell are WE to think WE will stop it in a
couple years? It ain't never going to happen. PEACE in the middle east is a
wild dream at best.

At one point WE even armed the Taliban......... We essentially fought
Russian equipped armies via the Taliban. We get bit in the ass every damned
time we help ANYONE. We need to let them fight it out - kill each other off
if it makes them happy. THEN mop up when they start looking in our
direction. IF they want to commit genocide in that area - far be it from me
to stop them OR care. There's nothing we're going to do to stop it with
absolute certainty. I'm not totally heartless - I DO feel for the kids and
women. IF they could be removed, I'd say do it and let those assholes have
at it.

Furthermore - EVERY country - who has capabilities to make arms - SELLS
them. SO, be it the U.S., Russia, N. Korea, whoever........... it is not
necessarily the "maker" of those bombs who is "responsible" for the innocent
lives being taken. Just because YOU buy a gun from Smith and Wesson -
doesn't make THEM guilty for your committing murder. THAT analogy you used
is a bit off based.......... IF Israel bombs the **** out of Palestine, it's
not OUR fault they used stuff they bought from us! WE didn't "pull" the
trigger. Does it make it right? NO - but that is a fact of life.

L.

"Jeff" wrote in message
news:Mj1Og.966590$084.878249@attbi_s22...

"Mike Painter" wrote in message
. ..
Jeff wrote:
"Mike Painter" wrote in message
. ..

Dude - I DO think - every ****ing day about those 3000 + killed.

And they think about the tens of thousands who hve died at the hand
of American arms.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

That is why they call it "war", and that is unfortunately
how you win wars. Every "real" leader i.e. Patton, have known this
for a long time. There is no
such thing as a "surgical" war. I dont care how careful you are.
Those ragheads have been terrorizing, and blowing people up for a
long, long time. Its time to
end it, no matter what it takes. If we dont, your grandkids will be
praying to Allah someday. Phrase from the Koran: " By the sword ye
shall convert"
And these *******s are seeing to it. Kill them ALL now, no matter
what it
takes ( Period ). But unfortunately we dont even need to have the
ragheads
ruin us,, the bleeding hearts in this country are already doing it
for them.

Gosh, where have I heard that before. I remember, it was when we were
trying to stop the domionos by fighting in Viet Nam.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Lets try to compare apples to apples, instead of apples to
potatoes.


Phrases from the bible,
Matthew 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
peace,
but a sword.

Luke 12:51
Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but
rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house
divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be
divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother
against
the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law
against
her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Luke 22:36
He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

That's cute,,, relevance??


J



There is none! That is the problem. He quotes them pretty easily - probably
reading word for word - but himself doesn't know the significance. He blasts
ME for blasting "Islam" - hahahahaha ROFLMAO.
The Bible itself - from that which I do know and had preached to me - has
ALWAYS alluded to war in many areas. So - that "history" book is telling us
that THOSE people have been at it forever and WE are not going to stop it.
You would "think" that over all those centuries, someone - one of their many
leaders - would have said enough is enough. Even if they "get" one - the
poor ******* is assassinated - further proving peace is not desired. They
don't want "us" interfering. So, let them go on - we can watch via CNN -
ring side seats.

Maybe the "true" Islam is peaceful - but "I" speak of the perhaps twisted
version of "Islam" being preached by these murderous PRICKS. Where NO ONE
but them - should exist. IF that isn't a bunch of psychos, I don't know what
is.

Infidels are we? OK......... I've stated my title for them before and will
do so again - Cock sucking yellow bellied rag head *******s. They hate those
who don't follow the Koran or at least their "twisted" version of it? OK -
how's this - shove the Koran up your ass. Go ahead and hate me - who gives a
****? IF I cared, I sure in hell wouldn't be defaming those ass holes. You
never see them with women, and they look like they've never bathed in like
their life time. So, yeah, I think I have them pegged pretty close.

Regardless what is happening today - they "still" show - that they prefer
"civilian" targets over "military" targets. Buses, market places, weddings,
etc. SO - it is easy to see they are truly YELLOW. Have I "offended" anyone
yet? If you're "innocent" - then this doesn't pertain to you. If you're
among the supporters of those murderous pricks - then may you be next to get
what they have coming.

L.

Jeff wrote:
"Mike Painter" wrote in message
. ..
Jeff wrote:
"Mike Painter" wrote in message
. ..

Dude - I DO think - every ****ing day about those 3000 + killed.

And they think about the tens of thousands who hve died at the
hand of American arms.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

That is why they call it "war", and that is unfortunately
how you win wars. Every "real" leader i.e. Patton, have known this
for a long time. There is no
such thing as a "surgical" war. I dont care how careful you are.
Those ragheads have been terrorizing, and blowing people up for a
long, long time. Its time to
end it, no matter what it takes. If we dont, your grandkids will be
praying to Allah someday. Phrase from the Koran: " By the sword ye
shall convert"
And these *******s are seeing to it. Kill them ALL now, no matter
what it
takes ( Period ). But unfortunately we dont even need to have the
ragheads
ruin us,, the bleeding hearts in this country are already doing it
for them.

Gosh, where have I heard that before. I remember, it was when we
were trying to stop the domionos by fighting in Viet Nam.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Lets try to compare apples to apples, instead of apples to
potatoes.

The same arguments were used then. They were wrong then.



Phrases from the bible,
Matthew 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
peace, but a sword.

Luke 12:51
Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay;
but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one
house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father
shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father;
the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the
mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the
daughter in law against her mother in law.

Luke 22:36
He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

That's cute,,, relevance??

The Christian bible is far bloodier than the Koran and a reference was made
to a single similar verse in the Koran.

"Mike Painter" wrote in message
.. .
Jeff wrote:
"Mike Painter" wrote in message
. ..
Jeff wrote:
"Mike Painter" wrote in message
. ..

Dude - I DO think - every ****ing day about those 3000 + killed.

And they think about the tens of thousands who hve died at the
hand of American arms.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

That is why they call it "war", and that is unfortunately
how you win wars. Every "real" leader i.e. Patton, have known this
for a long time. There is no
such thing as a "surgical" war. I dont care how careful you are.
Those ragheads have been terrorizing, and blowing people up for a
long, long time. Its time to
end it, no matter what it takes. If we dont, your grandkids will be
praying to Allah someday. Phrase from the Koran: " By the sword ye
shall convert"
And these *******s are seeing to it. Kill them ALL now, no matter
what it
takes ( Period ). But unfortunately we dont even need to have the
ragheads
ruin us,, the bleeding hearts in this country are already doing it
for them.

Gosh, where have I heard that before. I remember, it was when we
were trying to stop the domionos by fighting in Viet Nam.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Lets try to compare apples to apples, instead of apples to
potatoes.

The same arguments were used then. They were wrong then.



Phrases from the bible,
Matthew 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
peace, but a sword.

Luke 12:51
Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay;
but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one
house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father
shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father;
the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the
mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the
daughter in law against her mother in law.

Luke 22:36
He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

That's cute,,, relevance??

The Christian bible is far bloodier than the Koran and a reference was
made to a single similar verse in the Koran.


You know - I had a very strange experience today. I had a bunch of donkey
**** - quotes from the "Koran" -sent to me by someone "supposedly" writing
from the "Whitehouse". I wrote to the "Contact" address of the White House
to let them know that "IF" it DID come from that "employee" that they need
checked into and I DETEST having "religious" views shoved down my throat.
I've not heard back - yet. The address "of course" - looked legit. It
closely matched the one I got from the web FOR the Whitehouse. I "doubt"
that was a legit address to start with - but if it was - then that writer
had NO right to cast her views on me. ALSO - she had NO right to use an
"official" address as it be (if it were so) - to do so. It is not for the
Government to push religion.

I don't give a **** if they reply or not. My main concern is "maybe" a virus
being started as there "appeared" to be some links which I didn't click on.
I wanted them to know that "just in case". The whole thing stunk.

Oh and as for the "Koran" being less violent than the Bible - Ah..........
then WHY is OBL and his "fairy" band of cock sucking followers vowing that
ALL Christians, Jews, etc. SHOULD DIE if not following ISLAM who "uses" the
"KORAN"? STUFF THE KORAN UP YOUR ASS.

L.

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:38:36 -0400, "L." wrote:

Oh and as for the "Koran" being less violent than the Bible - Ah..........
then WHY is OBL and his "fairy" band of cock sucking followers vowing that
ALL Christians, Jews, etc. SHOULD DIE if not following ISLAM who "uses" the
"KORAN"?

Same reason all of Christendom wanted to kill all non-Christians in
the Holy Lands back in the Crusades?

Same reason Catholics killed Protestants and Protestants killed
Catholics in the Hundred Years' War?

Same Reason Christians tried to eliminate all non-Christians in
Armenia in the early part of the last century?

On the whole there's a larger percentage of
bloodthirsty-against-not-us Christians than there is in any other
religion.

BTW, the only part of Islam that follows the tenets that OBL does, as
far as killing all infidels, is the Wahabi sect, which is as much a
part of mainstream Islam as Santoria is part of mainstream
Christianity. When's the last time they killed a goat on the altar at
St. Pat's?

Al Klein wrote:
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:38:36 -0400, "L." wrote:

Oh and as for the "Koran" being less violent than the Bible -
Ah.......... then WHY is OBL and his "fairy" band of cock sucking
followers vowing that ALL Christians, Jews, etc. SHOULD DIE if not
following ISLAM who "uses" the "KORAN"?

Same reason all of Christendom wanted to kill all non-Christians in
the Holy Lands back in the Crusades?

Same reason Catholics killed Protestants and Protestants killed
Catholics in the Hundred Years' War?

Same Reason Christians tried to eliminate all non-Christians in
Armenia in the early part of the last century?

On the whole there's a larger percentage of
bloodthirsty-against-not-us Christians than there is in any other
religion.

BTW, the only part of Islam that follows the tenets that OBL does, as
far as killing all infidels, is the Wahabi sect, which is as much a
part of mainstream Islam as Santoria is part of mainstream
Christianity. When's the last time they killed a goat on the altar at
St. Pat's?

Or committed acts of cannibalism, uh, wait don't push sen

"Mike Painter" wrote in message
...
Al Klein wrote:
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:38:36 -0400, "L." wrote:

Oh and as for the "Koran" being less violent than the Bible -
Ah.......... then WHY is OBL and his "fairy" band of cock sucking
followers vowing that ALL Christians, Jews, etc. SHOULD DIE if not
following ISLAM who "uses" the "KORAN"?

Same reason all of Christendom wanted to kill all non-Christians in
the Holy Lands back in the Crusades?

Same reason Catholics killed Protestants and Protestants killed
Catholics in the Hundred Years' War?

Same Reason Christians tried to eliminate all non-Christians in
Armenia in the early part of the last century?

On the whole there's a larger percentage of
bloodthirsty-against-not-us Christians than there is in any other
religion.

BTW, the only part of Islam that follows the tenets that OBL does, as
far as killing all infidels, is the Wahabi sect, which is as much a
part of mainstream Islam as Santoria is part of mainstream
Christianity. When's the last time they killed a goat on the altar at
St. Pat's?

Or committed acts of cannibalism, uh, wait don't push sen

"I" haven't mentioned - that Christianity was or wasn't a cause of wars - I
called the bible a "history" book. It DOES speak of wars. Hell, even when
Christ supposedly was taken, there was upheaval. MY point wasn't with all
that crap - mine was "strictly" dealing with the "Koran" which Mike seems to
be pushing and my disgust with it and the cock sucker currently using it for
his excuse to murder. The one "responsible" for bringing the towers down.

L.

On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:35:26 -0400, "L." wrote:

"I" haven't mentioned - that Christianity was or wasn't a cause of wars - I
called the bible a "history" book.

Only if you consider "history" to refer to fiction.

It DOES speak of wars. Hell, even when
Christ supposedly was taken, there was upheaval. MY point wasn't with all
that crap - mine was "strictly" dealing with the "Koran" which Mike seems to
be pushing and my disgust with it and the cock sucker currently using it for
his excuse to murder. The one "responsible" for bringing the towers down.

The one responsible for the towers will most likely be judged by
history to be a Christian.

L. wrote:
"Mike Painter" wrote in message
...
Al Klein wrote:
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:38:36 -0400, "L." wrote:

Oh and as for the "Koran" being less violent than the Bible -
Ah.......... then WHY is OBL and his "fairy" band of cock sucking
followers vowing that ALL Christians, Jews, etc. SHOULD DIE if not
following ISLAM who "uses" the "KORAN"?

Same reason all of Christendom wanted to kill all non-Christians in
the Holy Lands back in the Crusades?

Same reason Catholics killed Protestants and Protestants killed
Catholics in the Hundred Years' War?

Same Reason Christians tried to eliminate all non-Christians in
Armenia in the early part of the last century?

On the whole there's a larger percentage of
bloodthirsty-against-not-us Christians than there is in any other
religion.

BTW, the only part of Islam that follows the tenets that OBL does,
as far as killing all infidels, is the Wahabi sect, which is as
much a part of mainstream Islam as Santoria is part of mainstream
Christianity. When's the last time they killed a goat on the altar
at St. Pat's?

Or committed acts of cannibalism, uh, wait don't push sen

"I" haven't mentioned - that Christianity was or wasn't a cause of
wars - I called the bible a "history" book. It DOES speak of wars.
Hell, even when Christ supposedly was taken, there was upheaval. MY
point wasn't with all that crap - mine was "strictly" dealing with
the "Koran" which Mike seems to be pushing and my disgust with it and
the cock sucker currently using it for his excuse to murder. The one
"responsible" for bringing the towers down.

Mike is pushing nothing. Mike is pointing out that you have a sound bite
education and that you know nothing of mainstream Islam.

There are places called libraries and they have things called books. But
they take more than 30 seconds to read.


The bible is a *very* poor history book. Even in cases where a story tells
of towns that existed at some point in time as in the Exodus, they
frequently did not exist within hundreds of years of each other.
As for the major people in the stories, if they existed they had neither the
might or power that was described.