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"Stars line up for 'Simpsons'"


"Radio ratings: Clear Channel's WLW-AM (700) was the big winner in
spring quarter Arbitron ratings, taking first place with all adults in
morning, midday, afternoon and evening ratings."


And there is no other AM for the next 13 ranked positions in the market.


Even your fellow IBOC shills know AM-HD is dead - From Mike Walker
avsforum today:


AM itself is near-death, but HD AM is on nearly every viable AM in the top
75 to 100 markets.


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On Mar 7, 9:24?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Mar 7, 3:58?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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"Stars line up for 'Simpsons'"


"Radio ratings: Clear Channel's WLW-AM (700) was the big winner in
spring quarter Arbitron ratings, taking first place with all adults in
morning, midday, afternoon and evening ratings."


And there is no other AM for the next 13 ranked positions in the market.


Even your fellow IBOC shills know AM-HD is dead - From Mike Walker
avsforum today:


AM itself is near-death, but HD AM is on nearly every viable AM in the top
75 to 100 markets.


"In-Stat: Digital Radio Set to Take Off"

"In 2006, 73 percent of respondents to an In-Stat U.S. consumer survey
were aware of HD Radio on some level."

http://beradio.com/eyeoniboc/instat-digital-radio-set/

"Sirius, XM, and HD: Consumer interest reality check" (Alexaholic)

"While interest in satellite radio is diminishing, interest in HD
shows no signs of a pulse."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/02/sirius_....html#comments

This just confirms, the lack of interest for HD Radio, on Google
Trends:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22hd... =all&date=all

"Rethinking AM's Future"

"Only 175 or so AM stations have even licensed AM-HD. For a number of
reasons, quite a few have tried it and taken it off the air, or so the
anecdotal evidence suggests. Ibiquity no longer reports in its public
summaries whether a station is on the air."

http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.557.html

Existing RDS has the same texting functions, as HD/IBOC. For now, HD
Radio/IBOC is dead. AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well - WLW AM is
ranked #1 !

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On Mar 7, 3:58?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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"Stars line up for 'Simpsons'"


"Radio ratings: Clear Channel's WLW-AM (700) was the big winner in
spring quarter Arbitron ratings, taking first place with all adults
in
morning, midday, afternoon and evening ratings."



Today it was announced that WLW's morning personality, Gary Burbank, will
retire. Half the ratings on this station come from his show....


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On Mar 7, 9:24?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Mar 7, 3:58?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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"Stars line up for 'Simpsons'"


"Radio ratings: Clear Channel's WLW-AM (700) was the big winner in
spring quarter Arbitron ratings, taking first place with all adults
in
morning, midday, afternoon and evening ratings."


Today it was announced that WLW's morning personality, Gary Burbank, will
retire. Half the ratings on this station come from his show....- Hide quoted text -

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Just like, when they fired then replace Furman, they will find someone
else and remain #1 - WLW AM has been around for decades, and to your
shagrin, isn't going anywhere.

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Today it was announced that WLW's morning personality, Gary Burbank, will
retire. Half the ratings on this station come from his show....- Hide
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Just like, when they fired then replace Furman, they will find someone
else and remain #1 - WLW AM has been around for decades, and to your
shagrin(sic), isn't going anywhere.


Like all AM news / talk stations, its audience is getting older. At some
time, it will be predominantly over 55, and they will lose their revenue.

You are only looking at total audience, over age 12. Advertisers do not look
at that figure... they look at mostly 18-34 and 25-54 ages, and never the
over 55 group. Ageing demos is what is moving news talk formats to FM.

Furman was a minor part of WLW. Over half the AQH listening of WLW is to
Burbank, and his loss is not easily "fixable" because he so overperforms the
station average. Once he is gone, many people will have no reason to go to
AM any more.




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On Mar 7, 11:08?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Mar 7, 9:24?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Mar 7, 3:58?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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roups.com...


"Stars line up for 'Simpsons'"


"Radio ratings: Clear Channel's WLW-AM (700) was the big winner in
spring quarter Arbitron ratings, taking first place with all adults
in
morning, midday, afternoon and evening ratings."


Today it was announced that WLW's morning personality, Gary Burbank, will
retire. Half the ratings on this station come from his show....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I found your little Arbitron ratings:

http://www.arbitron.com/radio_stations/home.htm

No stations are ranked even close to WLW AM - funny, I checked New
York, for example, and there are a bunch of AMs in the top rankings
ahead of FMs. As usual, you are full-of-**** - be AMs naysayer so this
wonderful, destructive HD-AM can save the AM band. You are simply a
****ing IBOC shill.

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I found your little Arbitron ratings:

http://www.arbitron.com/radio_stations/home.htm


That is 12+ (all ages). Advertisers do not buy 12+, which is why Arbitron
gives the data away. Stations pay hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to
get the specific age groups, because advertisers want 25-54 and its subsets,
not the 55+ AM gets.

No stations are ranked even close to WLW AM


In 25-54, there is a virtual three way tie for first. Half the WLW audience
is over 55, and useless for sales. And, aside from WLW, there is no other AM
station in the top 15 in Cincy.

- funny, I checked New
York, for example, and there are a bunch of AMs in the top rankings
ahead of FMs.


In 25-54, there is no AM station until you get to #15. The first 14 stations
are all FM. While the #1 station has over a 7 share of listening, the
highest rated AM has just a 2 share.

As usual, you are full-of-**** - be AMs naysayer so this
wonderful, destructive HD-AM can save the AM band. You are simply a
****ing IBOC shill.


Your argument just turned and bit you. My whole point is that AM is becoming
a band only for old people, one that advertisers have no interest in. You
tried to prove something with figures that are meaningless, 12+ ratings. And
the fact is, advertising is not sold on 12+, it is sold on 18-34 and 25-54
adult demos. AM is dying because the listeners are too old and advertisers
can not reach their most desirable consumers on AM.


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Whatever radio station one likes the Best,is the Best.I don't need (nor
want) any stinking ''rankins'' to tell me which is the ''Best''
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On Mar 8, 12:51�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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I found your little Arbitron ratings:


http://www.arbitron.com/radio_stations/home.htm


That is 12+ (all ages). Advertisers do not buy 12+, which is why Arbitron
gives the data away. Stations pay hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to
get the specific age groups, because advertisers want 25-54 and its subsets,
not the 55+ AM gets.



No stations are ranked even close to WLW AM


In 25-54, there is a virtual three way tie for first. Half the WLW audience
is over 55, and useless for sales. And, aside from WLW, there is no other AM
station in the top 15 in Cincy.

- funny, I checked New

York, for example, *and there are a bunch of AMs in the top rankings
ahead of FMs.


In 25-54, there is no AM station until you get to #15. The first 14 stations
are all FM. While the #1 station has over a 7 share of listening, the
highest rated AM has just a 2 share.

As usual, you are full-of-**** - be AMs naysayer so this
wonderful, destructive HD-AM can save the AM band. You are simply a
****ing IBOC shill.


Your argument just turned and bit you. My whole point is that AM is becoming
a band only for old people, one that advertisers have no interest in. You
tried to prove something with figures that are meaningless, 12+ ratings. And
the fact is, advertising is not sold on 12+, it is sold on 18-34 and 25-54
adult demos. AM is dying because the listeners are too old and advertisers
can not reach their most desirable consumers on AM.


AM will be around, until after we are gone.

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Your argument just turned and bit you. My whole point is that AM is
becoming
a band only for old people, one that advertisers have no interest in. You
tried to prove something with figures that are meaningless, 12+ ratings.
And
the fact is, advertising is not sold on 12+, it is sold on 18-34 and 25-54
adult demos. AM is dying because the listeners are too old and advertisers
can not reach their most desirable consumers on AM.


AM will be around, until after we are gone.

At the present rate, all AMs in a few years will be religious or niche
ethnic focused, once news-talk moves to FM. Sure, there will be AM stations,
but with nearly no listening and serving very tiny constituencies.




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