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Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
"dxAce" wrote in message ... You apply your "Ugly American" standard to other nations. The economy, the culture, the language... nothing is the same or comparable. You're full of ****, Edweenie... check with the State Department. The US government does not licence ham s or radio stations or anything innthe soverign nation of Ecuador. Despite what you think, the US government is pretty clueless about most foreign nations and cultuures, which is why so many hate us or want to attack us. You are nothing more than a hot air fairy. |
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On Sep 8, 3:17 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: OK, tell us what tests you had to take. Gato got your tongue, boy? I told you twice that the licensing process did not work that way. You had a sponsor from one of the clubs, you got a license. Or you simply paid a larger fee and you got a license. Uh-Huh You have absolutely no clue how things worked in the 60's in Latin America... or, specifically, Ecuador. why in the world would one take a test when they did not have to? Edweenie, the jig is up. Even the State Department does not agree with you! The US State Department has no clue about the workings of 95% of foreign governments. How would they possibly know that one could get, in 1965, a ham license in Ecuador by simply taking care of the right persons? The number of times I saw the US government screw up in Ecuador makes me totally unsurprised that the US is pretty universally hated around Latin America and the world. Your application of US rules and morals to other nations is typical of the attitude that has caused this.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, but you love our ginseng don't you, Tardo!! |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: OK, tell us what tests you had to take. Gato got your tongue, boy? I told you twice that the licensing process did not work that way. You had a sponsor from one of the clubs, you got a license. Or you simply paid a larger fee and you got a license. Uh-Huh You have absolutely no clue how things worked in the 60's in Latin America... or, specifically, Ecuador. why in the world would one take a test when they did not have to? Edweenie, the jig is up. Even the State Department does not agree with you! The US State Department has no clue about the workings of 95% of foreign governments. How would they possibly know that one could get, in 1965, a ham license in Ecuador by simply taking care of the right persons? The number of times I saw the US government screw up in Ecuador makes me totally unsurprised that the US is pretty universally hated around Latin America and the world. Your application of US rules and morals to other nations is typical of the attitude that has caused this. Actually it may have all been caused by fairies, such as yourself, who claim to have been escorted out under "gunpoint"... Go blow Hose-B... |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... You apply your "Ugly American" standard to other nations. The economy, the culture, the language... nothing is the same or comparable. You're full of ****, Edweenie... check with the State Department. The US government does not licence ham s or radio stations or anything innthe soverign nation of Ecuador. Despite what you think, the US government is pretty clueless about most foreign nations and cultuures, which is why so many hate us or want to attack us. Are you sucking down tequila? Your spelling is rapidly deteriorating. |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... You apply your "Ugly American" standard to other nations. The economy, the culture, the language... nothing is the same or comparable. You're full of ****, Edweenie... check with the State Department. The US government does not licence ham s or radio stations or anything innthe soverign nation of Ecuador. Despite what you think, the US government is pretty clueless about most foreign nations and cultuures, which is why so many hate us or want to attack us. You are nothing more than a hot air fairy. But still, you are a hot air fairy! |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... You apply your "Ugly American" standard to other nations. The economy, the culture, the language... nothing is the same or comparable. You're full of ****, Edweenie... check with the State Department. The US government does not licence ham s or radio stations or anything innthe soverign nation of Ecuador. Despite what you think, the US government is pretty clueless about most foreign nations and cultuures, which is why so many hate us or want to attack us. You are nothing more than a hot air fairy. But still, you are a hot air fairy! So you think the US licenses hams in Ecuador? You are bonkers. |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... You apply your "Ugly American" standard to other nations. The economy, the culture, the language... nothing is the same or comparable. You're full of ****, Edweenie... check with the State Department. The US government does not licence ham s or radio stations or anything innthe soverign nation of Ecuador. Despite what you think, the US government is pretty clueless about most foreign nations and cultuures, which is why so many hate us or want to attack us. You are nothing more than a hot air fairy. But still, you are a hot air fairy! So you think the US licenses hams in Ecuador? I never said that, nor implied that. You are bonkers. You are a f00kin fairy! |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... You apply your "Ugly American" standard to other nations. The economy, the culture, the language... nothing is the same or comparable. You're full of ****, Edweenie... check with the State Department. The US government does not licence ham s or radio stations or anything innthe soverign nation of Ecuador. Despite what you think, the US government is pretty clueless about most foreign nations and cultuures, which is why so many hate us or want to attack us. You are nothing more than a hot air fairy. But still, you are a hot air fairy! So you think the US licenses hams in Ecuador? You are bonkers. Get a clue, fairy. |
David Gleason and The Amazing HGH
On Sep 8, 3:33 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... You apply your "Ugly American" standard to other nations. The economy, the culture, the language... nothing is the same or comparable. You're full of ****, Edweenie... check with the State Department. The US government does not licence ham s or radio stations or anything innthe soverign nation of Ecuador. Despite what you think, the US government is pretty clueless about most foreign nations and cultuures, which is why so many hate us or want to attack us. You are nothing more than a hot air fairy. But still, you are a hot air fairy! So you think the US licenses hams in Ecuador? You are bonkers.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You're the one who's a colloidal silver abuser. |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message oups.com... On Sep 8, 11:12 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Hey, Edtardo... tell us again about the amateur radio license you had in Ecuador. What was that call? HC1DG Carlos Cesar Maldonado Reinoso, HC1DG Av Quito 852 Sto Domingo Eduador Licensce Class: G That's today; mine was about 42 years ago. My "club" sponsor was Ing. Fred Simon. You only have 19 posts to this thread so far today. You are going to have to work a little harder to get to the 56 posts in one day. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... The only one tripping tonight is you. I see you can't answer simple questions on the technical terms you use, which pretty much disproves the BS you have propagated via Usenet and the web that you have built transmitters and understand how to couple them to towers. You completely fabricated that stuff. Actually, for several years I had the only OIB in Ecuador, and was frequently called on to tune towers. Yeah sure thing. You don't know mathematical or technical terms but you can tune towers. Give me a break. If you really were "frequently called on to tune towers" then you must have had a method. Maybe you could explain this tuning method. There are always times when you go to tune some circuit or box or tower and it does not tune up right. Maybe you have a notable example of when things did not go right and you had to change methods or trouble shoot the tower/coupling circuits before it would tune up? All you can do for an explanation of field strength is point to the FCC web site. You can't use your own words to explain the terms. Well there is a point we can agree on. That is all you can do. All I have been asking is for you to put it in your own words. If I can do so can you. I gave you an explanation, consisting of the context in which broadcast engineers use the term. Very few are experts in propagation theory, most can not design a directional array. Our interest in signal contours is based on insuring management that we are getting all the coverage we are legally licensed for.... And the fact still remains... and this is where this started... that listeners do not commonly listen beyond the 10 mv/m contour on AM and beyond the 64 dbu on FM... based on analysis of ZIP codes where listening to stations takes place and the available "listenable" stations in each ZIP code. You gave a very weak "someone else's explanation." I'm not asking hard questions of you. I just want to know whether you understand the terminology you use to make a point. You make many posts to the news group. You should know what you are talking about. I suggest you sit down with an engineer and have him explain them to you. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Frackelton Gleason, up late and trying to tell more lies, wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Your website is filled with lies... get over it 'tard boy! Not a single item there is a lie; you have failed to prove your attempts to prove otherwise. The nice thing is that you attached your full name and address to one, linkable post. Come on Edweenie, trip the wire.. The only one tripping tonight is you. Nah... the only one tripping, and worried as hell, is you. Try to cover your sorry ass after telling the big LIE! Quite honestly, why would I worry about what anyone on this ng thinks? It's fun to participate, and for every loon like you and Telamon and the deranged Steve, there is a worthy debater like Mr. Maus. But in the overall picture of things, nothing said here matters. You seem to put a lot of effort into something that does not matter. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Hey, Edtardo... tell us again about the amateur radio license you had in Ecuador. What was that call? HC1DG Ya got proof of that? It never seems to show up in any Callbooks. What kinda test did you take? There was no test at all. Never took a driver's test, either. A properly processed application for either required no test. You have stated this several times and it does not pass the smell test. Why would any country issue a license to broadcast or transmit without a proficiency test. The same goes for driving. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
On Sep 8, 4:20 pm, Telamon
wrote: In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... The only one tripping tonight is you. I see you can't answer simple questions on the technical terms you use, which pretty much disproves the BS you have propagated via Usenet and the web that you have built transmitters and understand how to couple them to towers. You completely fabricated that stuff. Actually, for several years I had the only OIB in Ecuador, and was frequently called on to tune towers. Yeah sure thing. You don't know mathematical or technical terms but you can tune towers. Give me a break. If you really were "frequently called on to tune towers" then you must have had a method. Maybe you could explain this tuning method. There are always times when you go to tune some circuit or box or tower and it does not tune up right. Maybe you have a notable example of when things did not go right and you had to change methods or trouble shoot the tower/coupling circuits before it would tune up? All you can do for an explanation of field strength is point to the FCC web site. You can't use your own words to explain the terms. Well there is a point we can agree on. That is all you can do. All I have been asking is for you to put it in your own words. If I can do so can you. I gave you an explanation, consisting of the context in which broadcast engineers use the term. Very few are experts in propagation theory, most can not design a directional array. Our interest in signal contours is based on insuring management that we are getting all the coverage we are legally licensed for.... And the fact still remains... and this is where this started... that listeners do not commonly listen beyond the 10 mv/m contour on AM and beyond the 64 dbu on FM... based on analysis of ZIP codes where listening to stations takes place and the available "listenable" stations in each ZIP code. You gave a very weak "someone else's explanation." I'm not asking hard questions of you. I just want to know whether you understand the terminology you use to make a point. You make many posts to the news group. You should know what you are talking about. I suggest you sit down with an engineer and have him explain them to you. -- Telamon Ventura, California Here's a simulated Tardo reply: "You don't know anything about what it was like in Ecuador in the 60's, do you? We didn't have methods then, and troubleshooting is an American concept that has no counterpart in Ecuadorian culture." |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
In article . com,
Steve wrote: On Sep 8, 4:20 pm, Telamon wrote: In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message . .. The only one tripping tonight is you. I see you can't answer simple questions on the technical terms you use, which pretty much disproves the BS you have propagated via Usenet and the web that you have built transmitters and understand how to couple them to towers. You completely fabricated that stuff. Actually, for several years I had the only OIB in Ecuador, and was frequently called on to tune towers. Yeah sure thing. You don't know mathematical or technical terms but you can tune towers. Give me a break. If you really were "frequently called on to tune towers" then you must have had a method. Maybe you could explain this tuning method. There are always times when you go to tune some circuit or box or tower and it does not tune up right. Maybe you have a notable example of when things did not go right and you had to change methods or trouble shoot the tower/coupling circuits before it would tune up? All you can do for an explanation of field strength is point to the FCC web site. You can't use your own words to explain the terms. Well there is a point we can agree on. That is all you can do. All I have been asking is for you to put it in your own words. If I can do so can you. I gave you an explanation, consisting of the context in which broadcast engineers use the term. Very few are experts in propagation theory, most can not design a directional array. Our interest in signal contours is based on insuring management that we are getting all the coverage we are legally licensed for.... And the fact still remains... and this is where this started... that listeners do not commonly listen beyond the 10 mv/m contour on AM and beyond the 64 dbu on FM... based on analysis of ZIP codes where listening to stations takes place and the available "listenable" stations in each ZIP code. You gave a very weak "someone else's explanation." I'm not asking hard questions of you. I just want to know whether you understand the terminology you use to make a point. You make many posts to the news group. You should know what you are talking about. I suggest you sit down with an engineer and have him explain them to you. Here's a simulated Tardo reply: "You don't know anything about what it was like in Ecuador in the 60's, do you? We didn't have methods then, and troubleshooting is an American concept that has no counterpart in Ecuadorian culture." Very funny. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
Steve wrote: On Sep 8, 4:20 pm, Telamon wrote: In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... The only one tripping tonight is you. I see you can't answer simple questions on the technical terms you use, which pretty much disproves the BS you have propagated via Usenet and the web that you have built transmitters and understand how to couple them to towers. You completely fabricated that stuff. Actually, for several years I had the only OIB in Ecuador, and was frequently called on to tune towers. Yeah sure thing. You don't know mathematical or technical terms but you can tune towers. Give me a break. If you really were "frequently called on to tune towers" then you must have had a method. Maybe you could explain this tuning method. There are always times when you go to tune some circuit or box or tower and it does not tune up right. Maybe you have a notable example of when things did not go right and you had to change methods or trouble shoot the tower/coupling circuits before it would tune up? All you can do for an explanation of field strength is point to the FCC web site. You can't use your own words to explain the terms. Well there is a point we can agree on. That is all you can do. All I have been asking is for you to put it in your own words. If I can do so can you. I gave you an explanation, consisting of the context in which broadcast engineers use the term. Very few are experts in propagation theory, most can not design a directional array. Our interest in signal contours is based on insuring management that we are getting all the coverage we are legally licensed for.... And the fact still remains... and this is where this started... that listeners do not commonly listen beyond the 10 mv/m contour on AM and beyond the 64 dbu on FM... based on analysis of ZIP codes where listening to stations takes place and the available "listenable" stations in each ZIP code. You gave a very weak "someone else's explanation." I'm not asking hard questions of you. I just want to know whether you understand the terminology you use to make a point. You make many posts to the news group. You should know what you are talking about. I suggest you sit down with an engineer and have him explain them to you. -- Telamon Ventura, California Here's a simulated Tardo reply: "You don't know anything about what it was like in Ecuador in the 60's, do you? We didn't have methods then, and troubleshooting is an American concept that has no counterpart in Ecuadorian culture." I don't think Edweenie knew too much about Ecuadorian culture in the 60's either. That is perhaps why he got caught with his pants down and was told to leave the country *at gunpoint*. Dance Little Jean... today your daddy called your mom. |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: If you really were "frequently called on to tune towers" then you must have had a method. Maybe you could explain this tuning method. There are always times when you go to tune some circuit or box or tower and it does not tune up right. Maybe you have a notable example of when things did not go right and you had to change methods or trouble shoot the tower/coupling circuits before it would tune up? The method for tuning a tower is to design based on wavelength a theroretical ATU tuning circuit based on line impedance (typically 50 or 52 ohms for coax fed towers) and the calculated base impedence of the tower. Then, using either the actual transmitter, or an RF signal generator, RF is fed to the tower throug an OIB and the impedence and reactance are measured. Frequently you have a close match, and only slight adjustments of the coil in the ATU are needed (most ATUs use strappable coils, but fixed vacuum caps) will bring it into match. One of the issues that makes tuning harder today is the desire to have the tower as broadband as possible. Many older ATUs had an easy to adjust high Q network, but today most stations want a broader bandwidth ATU, which makes the best tuning point harder to find. Many engineers will begin with an OIB read at points a quarter of the way from each end of the coil's winding.... this gives you an idea of which way to go to get a match. Once the tuning area is reduced, then "half way between" steps are usually used. Most ATUs are not built by station staff. One either provides a measurement made with an RF generator and a bridge (Some bridges have an RF generator incorporated) or the description of the tower in electrical degrees at the frequency and the fabricator, like Kintronics, will ship an ATU built for the tower. On directionals, most are designed by consulting engneers, and the phasors are built by one of two or three fabricators like Kintronics. While not used in the US, many simple directionals elsewhere are done by means of a dual coax feed, of equal electrical length, which goes to each of two towers, with just the spacing in degrees determining directionality. This does not adress towers tuned by methods other than series fed base fed towers. There are shunt fed and unipole antennas, both of which are not insulated from ground at the tower base. And there are direct fed antennas, mostly foded L's and T's, that are fed without an ATU right off the final tank circuit of the transmitter, with the vertical component of the L or T being the radiator and the horizontal portion becomeing a top hat or "top load" to simulate greater electrical height. My tricks for tower tuning included, 1. do not do it when there is a single cloud. 2. do not do it when there are any atmospherics. 3. wear boots at all times. 4. have a positive indication, such as a light bulb on a long cord, whether the transmitter is plates on or plates off 5. never do this work alone. 6. when I was doing it, I always carried my CEI slide rule for calculations 6. watch out for cattle, goats and, especially, geese. Geese bite. You gave a very weak "someone else's explanation." I'm not asking hard questions of you. I just want to know whether you understand the terminology you use to make a point. You make many posts to the news group. You should know what you are talking about. I suggest you sit down with an engineer and have him explain them to you. Actually, after I posted, I went to our engineering office to get the NAB Engineering Handbook, and brought up the simple question "what is mV/m" since it is a daily use term; both of the engineers present gave the same definition I gave you: it expresses the field strength of a signal at a particular point or along a particular contour. And these are engineers who install and maintain and modify the transmitters for 5 stations (All with HD), two of them with backup sites, 16 studios, network feeds to one 28 station and another 12 station network, dozens of remotes, remote TV studios for out talent who are on TV daily, and all the related routers, processing, redundant STL systems, earthquake and disaster preparedness installations like alternate studios and genny sets as well as a 50 kw 5 tower, 2 pattern directional that is diplexed with another high power AM only 130 kHz higher on the band... all of which use a counterpoise ground that has acres of copper webbing, silver-soldered and clamped, 12 meters above ground! |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
"Telamon" wrote in message ... Quite honestly, why would I worry about what anyone on this ng thinks? It's fun to participate, and for every loon like you and Telamon and the deranged Steve, there is a worthy debater like Mr. Maus. But in the overall picture of things, nothing said here matters. You seem to put a lot of effort into something that does not matter. Lot's of fun things don't matter. Scoring higher than the last time at Doom is fun... but it has no significance. |
IBOC - The Great Debate - Message Count is 490 . . .
On Aug 31, 2:31 am, dxAce wrote:
David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message oups.com... "Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers" This was documented in another thread. A "thread" is your documentation? Well, there are "threads" all over the web about aliens in the US Government, but being in a thread does not make it so. The funny thing is that I have neither seen nor heard of a gag order. Wasn't a gag order imposed on you in Ecuador? Just before they tossed your prancing ass out of the country at gun point? IBOC The Great Debate - Message Count is 490 Will We Reach 500 and Go into the Bonus Round ? ? ? |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
David "Yep, I BS everyone, including my handlers at Univision, since I began posing as 'Eduardo'", wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: If you really were "frequently called on to tune towers" then you must have had a method. Maybe you could explain this tuning method. There are always times when you go to tune some circuit or box or tower and it does not tune up right. Maybe you have a notable example of when things did not go right and you had to change methods or trouble shoot the tower/coupling circuits before it would tune up? The method for tuning a tower is to design based on wavelength a theroretical ATU tuning circuit based on line impedance (typically 50 or 52 ohms for coax fed towers) and the calculated base impedence of the tower. Then, using either the actual transmitter, or an RF signal generator, RF is fed to the tower throug an OIB and the impedence and reactance are measured. Frequently you have a close match, and only slight adjustments of the coil in the ATU are needed (most ATUs use strappable coils, but fixed vacuum caps) will bring it into match. One of the issues that makes tuning harder today is the desire to have the tower as broadband as possible. Many older ATUs had an easy to adjust high Q network, but today most stations want a broader bandwidth ATU, which makes the best tuning point harder to find. Many engineers will begin with an OIB read at points a quarter of the way from each end of the coil's winding.... this gives you an idea of which way to go to get a match. Once the tuning area is reduced, then "half way between" steps are usually used. Most ATUs are not built by station staff. One either provides a measurement made with an RF generator and a bridge (Some bridges have an RF generator incorporated) or the description of the tower in electrical degrees at the frequency and the fabricator, like Kintronics, will ship an ATU built for the tower. On directionals, most are designed by consulting engneers, and the phasors are built by one of two or three fabricators like Kintronics. While not used in the US, many simple directionals elsewhere are done by means of a dual coax feed, of equal electrical length, which goes to each of two towers, with just the spacing in degrees determining directionality. This does not adress towers tuned by methods other than series fed base fed towers. There are shunt fed and unipole antennas, both of which are not insulated from ground at the tower base. And there are direct fed antennas, mostly foded L's and T's, that are fed without an ATU right off the final tank circuit of the transmitter, with the vertical component of the L or T being the radiator and the horizontal portion becomeing a top hat or "top load" to simulate greater electrical height. My tricks for tower tuning included, 1. do not do it when there is a single cloud. 2. do not do it when there are any atmospherics. 3. wear boots at all times. 4. have a positive indication, such as a light bulb on a long cord, whether the transmitter is plates on or plates off 5. never do this work alone. 6. when I was doing it, I always carried my CEI slide rule for calculations 6. watch out for cattle, goats and, especially, geese. Geese bite. You gave a very weak "someone else's explanation." I'm not asking hard questions of you. I just want to know whether you understand the terminology you use to make a point. You make many posts to the news group. You should know what you are talking about. I suggest you sit down with an engineer and have him explain them to you. Actually, after I posted, I went to our engineering office to get the NAB Engineering Handbook, and brought up the simple question "what is mV/m" since it is a daily use term; both of the engineers present gave the same definition I gave you: it expresses the field strength of a signal at a particular point or along a particular contour. And these are engineers who install and maintain and modify the transmitters for 5 stations (All with HD), two of them with backup sites, 16 studios, network feeds to one 28 station and another 12 station network, dozens of remotes, remote TV studios for out talent who are on TV daily, and all the related routers, processing, redundant STL systems, earthquake and disaster preparedness installations like alternate studios and genny sets as well as a 50 kw 5 tower, 2 pattern directional that is diplexed with another high power AM only 130 kHz higher on the band... all of which use a counterpoise ground that has acres of copper webbing, silver-soldered and clamped, 12 meters above ground! More BS from the King! Kung Foo Fighting! |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
"Telamon" wrote in message ... There was no test at all. Never took a driver's test, either. A properly processed application for either required no test. You have stated this several times and it does not pass the smell test. Why would any country issue a license to broadcast or transmit without a proficiency test. The same goes for driving. You don't get it, do you? The alternative to taking a driving test was to make a gift of money to the appropriate person. It was SOP to put a S/.50 bill inside the license "brevet" which would be extracted as "fine payment" if stopped; the alternative would be to have one's car impounded. As to ham licenses, believe it or not, but some countries think that ham operation is just like CB operation. The license is given to whoever wants one. |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
"dxAce" wrote in message ... I don't think Edweenie knew too much about Ecuadorian culture in the 60's either. That is perhaps why he got caught with his pants down and was told to leave the country *at gunpoint*. I knew a little too much about it and joined with El Tiempo in opposing the military Junta government. My partner at one station, Carrousel in Guayaquil, is now the mayor of that city and was nearly elected President a few years ago. |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
David Eduardo wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... There was no test at all. Never took a driver's test, either. A properly processed application for either required no test. You have stated this several times and it does not pass the smell test. Why would any country issue a license to broadcast or transmit without a proficiency test. The same goes for driving. You don't get it, do you? You certainly don't. The alternative to taking a driving test was to make a gift of money to the appropriate person. Hogwash. It was SOP to put a S/.50 bill inside the license "brevet" which would be extracted as "fine payment" if stopped; the alternative would be to have one's car impounded. As to ham licenses, believe it or not, but some countries think that ham operation is just like CB operation. The license is given to whoever wants one. You have never had an amateur license in any country, fairy. |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
"dxAce" wrote in message ... More BS from the King! You would not recognize an ATU or a phasor if it walked up and gave you an RF burn. |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... I don't think Edweenie knew too much about Ecuadorian culture in the 60's either. That is perhaps why he got caught with his pants down and was told to leave the country *at gunpoint*. I knew a little too much about it and joined with El Tiempo in opposing the military Junta government. My partner at one station, Carrousel in Guayaquil, is now the mayor of that city and was nearly elected President a few years ago. Nice, but you are full of ****, fairy. You may return to toe tapping at your earliest convenience, boy! And I would like to put heavy emphasis on the BOY! |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
"dxAce" wrote in message ... The alternative to taking a driving test was to make a gift of money to the appropriate person. Hogwash. It was also the way to avoid a "lengthy" tax audit. Or to get a telephone in anything less than 2 years. Or to expedite clearing a package in customs. Or to get official papers processed. |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... More BS from the King! You would not recognize an ATU or a phasor if it walked up and gave you an RF burn. You are sadly mistaken yet again, fairy. Try again, after you pull it outta your faggot ass! |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... The alternative to taking a driving test was to make a gift of money to the appropriate person. Hogwash. It was also the way to avoid a "lengthy" tax audit. Or to get a telephone in anything less than 2 years. Or to expedite clearing a package in customs. Or to get official papers processed. Or to let your fairy ass hang out till they tired of you? |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
On Sep 8, 6:26 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message ... I don't think Edweenie knew too much about Ecuadorian culture in the 60's either. That is perhaps why he got caught with his pants down and was told to leave the country *at gunpoint*. I knew a little too much about it and joined with El Tiempo in opposing the military Junta government. My partner at one station, Carrousel in Guayaquil, is now the mayor of that city and was nearly elected President a few years ago. Yawn. Tardo's on the crapper again. Anybody got a match? |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
On Sep 8, 6:31 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message ... The alternative to taking a driving test was to make a gift of money to the appropriate person. Hogwash. It was also the way to avoid a "lengthy" tax audit. Or to get a telephone in anything less than 2 years. Or to expedite clearing a package in customs. Or to get official papers processed. If you're going to make this crap up, at LEAST make an effort to make it sound plausible. That's not asking too much...is it? |
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On Sep 8, 6:18 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: If you really were "frequently called on to tune towers" then you must have had a method. Maybe you could explain this tuning method. There are always times when you go to tune some circuit or box or tower and it does not tune up right. Maybe you have a notable example of when things did not go right and you had to change methods or trouble shoot the tower/coupling circuits before it would tune up? The method for tuning a tower is to design based on wavelength a theroretical ATU tuning circuit based on line impedance (typically 50 or 52 ohms for coax fed towers) and the calculated base impedence of the tower. Then, using either the actual transmitter, or an RF signal generator, RF is fed to the tower throug an OIB and the impedence and reactance are measured. Frequently you have a close match, and only slight adjustments of the coil in the ATU are needed (most ATUs use strappable coils, but fixed vacuum caps) will bring it into match. One of the issues that makes tuning harder today is the desire to have the tower as broadband as possible. Many older ATUs had an easy to adjust high Q network, but today most stations want a broader bandwidth ATU, which makes the best tuning point harder to find. Many engineers will begin with an OIB read at points a quarter of the way from each end of the coil's winding.... this gives you an idea of which way to go to get a match. Once the tuning area is reduced, then "half way between" steps are usually used. Most ATUs are not built by station staff. One either provides a measurement made with an RF generator and a bridge (Some bridges have an RF generator incorporated) or the description of the tower in electrical degrees at the frequency and the fabricator, like Kintronics, will ship an ATU built for the tower. On directionals, most are designed by consulting engneers, and the phasors are built by one of two or three fabricators like Kintronics. While not used in the US, many simple directionals elsewhere are done by means of a dual coax feed, of equal electrical length, which goes to each of two towers, with just the spacing in degrees determining directionality. This does not adress towers tuned by methods other than series fed base fed towers. There are shunt fed and unipole antennas, both of which are not insulated from ground at the tower base. And there are direct fed antennas, mostly foded L's and T's, that are fed without an ATU right off the final tank circuit of the transmitter, with the vertical component of the L or T being the radiator and the horizontal portion becomeing a top hat or "top load" to simulate greater electrical height. My tricks for tower tuning included, 1. do not do it when there is a single cloud. 2. do not do it when there are any atmospherics. 3. wear boots at all times. 4. have a positive indication, such as a light bulb on a long cord, whether the transmitter is plates on or plates off 5. never do this work alone. 6. when I was doing it, I always carried my CEI slide rule for calculations 6. watch out for cattle, goats and, especially, geese. Geese bite. You gave a very weak "someone else's explanation." I'm not asking hard questions of you. I just want to know whether you understand the terminology you use to make a point. You make many posts to the news group. You should know what you are talking about. I suggest you sit down with an engineer and have him explain them to you. Actually, after I posted, I went to our engineering office to get the NAB Engineering Handbook, and brought up the simple question "what is mV/m" since it is a daily use term; both of the engineers present gave the same definition I gave you: it expresses the field strength of a signal at a particular point or along a particular contour. And these are engineers who install and maintain and modify the transmitters for 5 stations (All with HD), two of them with backup sites, 16 studios, network feeds to one 28 station and another 12 station network, dozens of remotes, remote TV studios for out talent who are on TV daily, and all the related routers, processing, redundant STL systems, earthquake and disaster preparedness installations like alternate studios and genny sets as well as a 50 kw 5 tower, 2 pattern directional that is diplexed with another high power AM only 130 kHz higher on the band... all of which use a counterpoise ground that has acres of copper webbing, silver-soldered and clamped, 12 meters above ground! Oh man, I'm embarrassed for you. How long did it take you to write this? I knew we had a chump on our hands, but you're the uber-chump. |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
On Sep 8, 6:19 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message ... Quite honestly, why would I worry about what anyone on this ng thinks? It's fun to participate, and for every loon like you and Telamon and the deranged Steve, there is a worthy debater like Mr. Maus. But in the overall picture of things, nothing said here matters. You seem to put a lot of effort into something that does not matter. Lot's of fun things don't matter. Scoring higher than the last time at Doom is fun... but it has no significance. Yes, but it's odd that nothing you do is significant. Most people would be troubled by that, but I guess you don't care so long as you're stocked up on HGH. |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
On Sep 8, 7:58 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message oups.com... I think I'll stay in Boise because I know you're IN one of those toilet stalls, tapping your feet... You seem to know a lot about it. The breaking news is that your congressman wants to defend his seat.... unfortunately, he was referring to a toilet seat. Wow. You seem to know this congressman very, very well. |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
On Sep 8, 7:57 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... There was no test at all. Never took a driver's test, either. A properly processed application for either required no test. You have stated this several times and it does not pass the smell test. Why would any country issue a license to broadcast or transmit without a proficiency test. The same goes for driving. You don't get it, do you? The alternative to taking a driving test was to make a gift of money to the appropriate person. It was SOP to put a S/.50 bill inside the license "brevet" which would be extracted as "fine payment" if stopped; the alternative would be to have one's car impounded. As to ham licenses, believe it or not, but some countries think that ham operation is just like CB operation. The license is given to whoever wants one. I have never done business in central or south America other than take vacations there so no I don't get it. The car driver license is a safety issue and the communications license can be a national security issue that you would think the governments would want to keep under control. I can't see them just handing them out for payola. I'd remind you, in the radio context, that General Tire lost some licenses and had to sell all the others for the RKO radio and TV operations they owned because they were convicted of doing business in Argentina, Libya and several other nations on the basis of payoffs to officials. The defense that "business is only done that way" did not help, as it is in contradiction to American law... but it illustrates that not much of anything went on in the 60's or 70's in much of the third world without baksheesh. To a government official in Ecuador making $60 a month, getting $50 for each expedited driver license is the basis for surviving. Police could not live without the "tips" that caused a speedy resolution of traffic violations. Things are not seen from such an altruistic point of view as you expect. Fees to the government are for revenue, not safety or security. "Tips" to employees were an expected token of appreciation and to the contrary, paperwork sat for eons on official's desks. Since there was little payment of income tax, the government got revenue from import taxes and "stamps" on every document, from a marriage license to a new telephone line order. Once the government got those fees, there was not much concern for how the employees might benefit as well.. As to ham licenses, we are talking about a country where, when I asked for the first commercial FM licenses, I was told that there was no system to grant same... but that such a system could be created were I to desire. Worry about ham licenses was non-existent and ham radio considered a quirk of the wealthy for which they should pay, not pass a test. Radio stations were never inspected; I operated HCFV1, licensed to 805 kHz, on 810 for half a decade (to avoid hetting with TWR in Bonaire) and nobody in the government noticed. Had they noticed, a change would have been granted cheerfully for a modest fee. Ecuadorian travelers, who usually left with empty suitcases one inside another like Russian nesting dolls, returned with thousands of dollars in clothing, toys, gifts, appliances and such. Usually, a few S/.100 bills were placed on the top of the contents inside each bag. Once the bills were harvested, the returning passenger was cleared in customs.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Good grief. This one was just pathetic, like something out of an old B- grade movie. Surely you can do better than that. |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
David Eduardo wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... OK, maybe I frame questions badly. Radio waves are EM waves where the volts per meter (V/m) is a measurement of the E field. You could measure similar for the magnetic field (H/m) since in a far field the energy is equal in the E and H fields. Since radios waves are the same thing as light waves where photons that have no mass are the carries of or direct these fields. The E field measured as V/m is just a vector and if the terms are squared so that the area is considered perpendicular to the direction of travel and you also take in account the impedance of free space you can then calculate the power of that EM wave per meter squared at some distance from the tower. I doubt if one broadcast engineer in a thousand could state that. At radio stations, we are talking about 10% theory and 90% practical aplication... if that. It is beyond any practical application, photons and all. What you have to understand is that the heavey hitting is done by consulting engineers, who will design the directional systems and even put together most FCC applications. The station engineers often do not even install DAs, and are somewhat like the contractor who gets designs from an architect; we do not know why a certain mixs of concreat, or diameter or rebar or specific sort of I-beam is specified, but we know how to build from the design specs and make it work. Again, what is important to a station engineer is to comply with the license and the rules. DAs must have the right null depth. Occupied bandwidth, harmonic separation, s/n, THD and such must meet FCC requrements. And when all else is done, there must be "good engineering practice" ranging from proper grounding, well dressed cable, interlocks functioning, fences around tower bases, etc. The objective is keeping the licensed facility operating within the maximum parameters of the license so that management can program and sell advertising and the owners can make a profit. Some of us have built transmitters, exciters, processers, but most of us use stuff right out of texts and the NAB or even ARRL handbooks, not new designs. Those who do create new designs go on to be equipment manufacturers like Frank Foti of processing fame or the late John Pate who created remote control and audio devices after being a CE at WSM, Nashville Network, WERC (where I worked with him) and WMCA. Our use of signal strength is primarily to know if we are operating legally. Management uses it to know where they can expect, if programming is right, to get audiences... and where they can't. So from this the lines on the broadcast maps are not a boundary where on one side you have good and on the other side poor reception. If you think I said that, I appologize. I said most measured FM listening, for example, was inside the 64 dBu contour. In fact, 80% is in the 70 dBu contour and another 15% in the area between that and the 64. Obviously, population density is a factor in each area... a rimshot like KQMR and KOMR in Phoenix get about 80% of their listening between the 70 and the 64 because the 70's on each of these cover mostly desert... but the rule stands on the average station... given equal population density, reported listening falls off as the signal falls below 70 dBu and is almost non-existent by the time you get to the 64. Is that clearer? Also obvious, but apparently not understood is the fact that listening data is granular only to the ZIP code level. Some ZIPS may be bisected by one of these contours. and some may have a 70 dBu in one part and, behind a hill, nothing. So the studies I have done and those I have seen elsewhere tend to take data from multiple ratings periods, such as a year, and look for total diary counts over such a period. And no matter how many years of data you analyze, there is pretty much no listening beyond the signal intensity levels I have mentioned. This is not a matter of having contours mean that there are abosolutes, like moats in the sky, but that a station will certainly not spend money to put up billboards or do promotional events in areas where the signal is not good enough to get listenership. This is what I mean by programmers and managers looking at signal contours to see where there is potential for audience generation and where all efforts will be useless. We don't spend a lot of time on photons and light waves. It's knowledge that does not contribute to the business and can really be distracting. The energy of the EM wave falls off as a square of the distance in theory (but somewhat more in reality due to other factors) and so these lines do not behave as if they are some kind of demographic line as your posts appear to indicate. Gee, you mean you have to quadruple the power to double the coverage area? How amazing. I think I learned that when I was about 13. The ´practical application of this is to demonstrate to the non-technical manager (about 99.9% of them) that raising the power by 10% will probably not be cost effective... 50% maybe, depending on population, and by even more, likely. I remember the expectations of the non technical staff at our New York FM when we went from 610 to 660 watts on the ESB... somehow they thought they would get 10% more coverage. Theoretical hand waving aside the empirical data I posted that you rejected out of hand from an expensive receiver was used by me because it has a good linear power meter. Readings from it show the relative field power received from a single turn interior loop antenna of low gain. In addition I related those readings to a hand held portable radio used indoors. In addition to that I also compared the reception of a car radio. Only good reception on all three counted toward the number of stations I considered as strong noise/interference free stations as measured in broad daylight. My recollection was you stated everyone had on average three stations and I reported something like 11 or 13. And my point is that there is little listening to many of the stations you cited as recievable. This is because they are not at a level that the average listener finds to be "listenable" and they do not use the stations. You might be interested in a site run by one of the engineering firms (that produces software for coverage contours, interference studies, etc) that shows field strength by ZIP code for the entire USA: There is an enormous correlation between ratings data and these calculated contours in each place. http://www.v-soft.com/ZipSignal/default.htm I hope this sheds some light on how your posting behavior looks to me. It's not good and most other people reading the news group are of the same opinion. The only difference is that radio broadcasting is a practical application of technology, not a place where theory is examined daily. Holy s**t, that was certainly a load from you, oh fake 1. |
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On Sep 8, 9:49 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message ... OK, maybe I frame questions badly. Radio waves are EM waves where the volts per meter (V/m) is a measurement of the E field. You could measure similar for the magnetic field (H/m) since in a far field the energy is equal in the E and H fields. Since radios waves are the same thing as light waves where photons that have no mass are the carries of or direct these fields. The E field measured as V/m is just a vector and if the terms are squared so that the area is considered perpendicular to the direction of travel and you also take in account the impedance of free space you can then calculate the power of that EM wave per meter squared at some distance from the tower. I doubt if one broadcast engineer in a thousand could state that. At radio stations, we are talking about 10% theory and 90% practical aplication... if that. It is beyond any practical application, photons and all. What you have to understand is that the heavey hitting is done by consulting engineers, who will design the directional systems and even put together most FCC applications. The station engineers often do not even install DAs, and are somewhat like the contractor who gets designs from an architect; we do not know why a certain mixs of concreat, or diameter or rebar or specific sort of I-beam is specified, but we know how to build from the design specs and make it work. Again, what is important to a station engineer is to comply with the license and the rules. DAs must have the right null depth. Occupied bandwidth, harmonic separation, s/n, THD and such must meet FCC requrements. And when all else is done, there must be "good engineering practice" ranging from proper grounding, well dressed cable, interlocks functioning, fences around tower bases, etc. The objective is keeping the licensed facility operating within the maximum parameters of the license so that management can program and sell advertising and the owners can make a profit. Some of us have built transmitters, exciters, processers, but most of us use stuff right out of texts and the NAB or even ARRL handbooks, not new designs. Those who do create new designs go on to be equipment manufacturers like Frank Foti of processing fame or the late John Pate who created remote control and audio devices after being a CE at WSM, Nashville Network, WERC (where I worked with him) and WMCA. Our use of signal strength is primarily to know if we are operating legally. Management uses it to know where they can expect, if programming is right, to get audiences... and where they can't. So from this the lines on the broadcast maps are not a boundary where on one side you have good and on the other side poor reception. If you think I said that, I appologize. I said most measured FM listening, for example, was inside the 64 dBu contour. In fact, 80% is in the 70 dBu contour and another 15% in the area between that and the 64. Obviously, population density is a factor in each area... a rimshot like KQMR and KOMR in Phoenix get about 80% of their listening between the 70 and the 64 because the 70's on each of these cover mostly desert... but the rule stands on the average station... given equal population density, reported listening falls off as the signal falls below 70 dBu and is almost non-existent by the time you get to the 64. Is that clearer? Also obvious, but apparently not understood is the fact that listening data is granular only to the ZIP code level. Some ZIPS may be bisected by one of these contours. and some may have a 70 dBu in one part and, behind a hill, nothing. So the studies I have done and those I have seen elsewhere tend to take data from multiple ratings periods, such as a year, and look for total diary counts over such a period. And no matter how many years of data you analyze, there is pretty much no listening beyond the signal intensity levels I have mentioned. This is not a matter of having contours mean that there are abosolutes, like moats in the sky, but that a station will certainly not spend money to put up billboards or do promotional events in areas where the signal is not good enough to get listenership. This is what I mean by programmers and managers looking at signal contours to see where there is potential for audience generation and where all efforts will be useless. We don't spend a lot of time on photons and light waves. It's knowledge that does not contribute to the business and can really be distracting. The energy of the EM wave falls off as a square of the distance in theory (but somewhat more in reality due to other factors) and so these lines do not behave as if they are some kind of demographic line as your posts appear to indicate. Gee, you mean you have to quadruple the power to double the coverage area? How amazing. I think I learned that when I was about 13. The ´practical application of this is to demonstrate to the non-technical manager (about 99.9% of them) that raising the power by 10% will probably not be cost effective... 50% maybe, depending on population, and by even more, likely.. I remember the expectations of the non technical staff at our New York FM when we went from 610 to 660 watts on the ESB... somehow they thought they would get 10% more coverage. Theoretical hand waving aside the empirical data I posted that you rejected out of hand from an expensive receiver was used by me because it has a good linear power meter. Readings from it show the relative field power received from a single turn interior loop antenna of low gain. In addition I related those readings to a hand held portable radio used indoors. In addition to that I also compared the reception of a car radio. Only good reception on all three counted toward the number of stations I considered as strong noise/interference free stations as measured in broad daylight. My recollection was you stated everyone had on average three stations and I reported something like 11 or 13. And my point is that there is little listening to many of the stations you cited as recievable. This is because they are not at a level that the average listener finds to be "listenable" and they do not use the stations. You might be interested in a site run by one of the engineering firms (that produces software for coverage contours, interference studies, etc) that shows field strength by ZIP code for the entire USA: There is an enormous correlation between ratings data and these calculated contours in each place. http://www.v-soft.com/ZipSignal/default.htm I hope this sheds some light on how your posting behavior looks to me. It's not good and most other people reading the news group are of the same opinion. The only difference is that radio broadcasting is a practical application of technology, not a place where theory is examined daily. It seems to be a place where you examine your navel daily. |
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Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
On Sep 9, 1:23 am, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message ... 3 mV/m and up is a very strong interference free signal on AM. For KNX I get -55 dBm or +20 over S9 on the signal strength meter as a reference. KVTA which meets your 10 mV/m criteria is almost -45 dBm and not quite +30 over S9. My reception is no different between the two stations. You getting the drift of this? He doesn't care... or perhaps more properly, the suits don't care. He/they don't care that people on the north Oregon coast preferred to listen to KWJJ in Portland rather than any of the local stations up until the point were KWJJ changed formats and calls. They don't care that there are parts of Portland, OR where local FM is difficult to impossible to get WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, so most of the folks in those areas would listen to a Salem station on 105.3 (the station recently relocated to a hilltop between the cities for even better coverage of both). He/they don't give a rats arse that the two most listened to nighttime signals in the Northwest are KSL and KGO. (KBOI is right up there, too, and I personally liked to hear KTWO. Also WWL was good and solid. But those are DX stations, so they really don't matter... the others are rimshots that a lot of people listen or listened to, despite whatever Arbitron might say. The former KRDR (now KMUZ IIRC) in Gresham was a popular country station in the Portland market, but the city was outside their city grade contours, so I guess that all those ads for Portland businesses weren't really there.. BAD - I agree DE and the Suits DON'T CARE For Them It's Sellable Numbers and Station Revenue. Whatever happen to the concept of Local Business asking Customers what is their favorite Radio Station(s) and selecting who they Advertized with from that List ? I used to get KTWO-AM 1030 kHz here fairly well at Night but now it is block by a Spanish Language Religious Radio Station on the same Frequency. KTWO = http://www.k2radio.com/main.html The only Spanish Language Religious Radio Station on 1030 kHz is KJDJ in San Luis Obispo, CA http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin...=KJDJ&sr=Y&s=C -BUT- It is only running 700 Watts at night ? ? ? Radio Vida Abundante {Network} http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Vida_Abundante http://www.radiovidaabundante.com/ Note - 1030 kHz Frequency Sort http://www.am-dx.com/lists/1030sort.htm ~ RHF |
Ibiquity's "Gag Order" on engineers
"Telamon" wrote in message ... .. 70 dBu is principal city coverage for FM, not for AM. Where does it say +70 dBu is FM only? 3 mV/m and up is a very strong interference free signal on AM. For KNX I get -55 dBm or +20 over S9 on the signal strength meter as a reference. KVTA which meets your 10 mV/m criteria is almost -45 dBm and not quite +30 over S9. My reception is no different between the two stations. You getting the drift of this? The evidence from hundreds of thousands of listening incidents shows that there is essentially no listening outside the 10 mvm in the LA metro. KNX has zero at home or at work audience in your area (your ZIP and contiguous ones) because the signal is not good enough to please listeners. While most receivers have some sort of AGC circuit, signals below the 10 mV/m range just don't satisfy listeners enough to get listening. My point comes from the hard facts of actual listening. There is none. Whether a signal is receivable or not, listeners have decided it is not listenable and do not tune in. |
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