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Good outdoor omni-directional fm antenna ?
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Good outdoor omni-directional fm antenna ?
In article , RHF wrote:
On Mar 6, 5:43=A0pm, "Burr" wrote: "Brenda Ann" I'll probably get flamed here... but there is really no such thing as a good omnidirectional FM antenna. =A0None of them have any multipath rejection whatsoever, and since multipath is most likely what you're trying to alleviate, you're just as likely as not to end up with just as= bad a signal (stronger, yes, but no less garbled and noisy) as you would= have with your indoor antenna. In fact, a cheap pair of rabbit ears will= usually outperform one of those turnstiles, unless you live in a perfect= ly flat area with no surrounding tall structures. - Flame, Flame & Flamed - - Burr Burr - Charbroiled will do- i am an old 'toasty' ~ RHF Most FM stations have a good omni antenna. greg |
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Good outdoor omni-directional fm antenna ?
In article , dave wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote: "James" no wrote in message ... Who makes a good outdoor, omni-directional fm antenna ? I prefer to use RG6 as the lead in, and I definitely need an omni-directional antenna. Radio Shack used to make a dual element, folded dipole outside fm antenna, but I don't find it on their website. Thanks for any tips !! James I'll probably get flamed here... but there is really no such thing as a good omnidirectional FM antenna. None of them have any multipath rejection whatsoever, and since multipath is most likely what you're trying to alleviate, you're just as likely as not to end up with just as bad a signal (stronger, yes, but no less garbled and noisy) as you would have with your indoor antenna. In fact, a cheap pair of rabbit ears will usually outperform one of those turnstiles, unless you live in a perfectly flat area with no surrounding tall structures. CP FM has inherent multipath rejection. I have a 4 element slightly directional Winegard FM only antenna pointing South. I stll get stations from all around, but I can get virtually every FM station in Los Angeles and San Diego quite nicely. Without a doubt, a good Yagi on a rotator is best. I wonder what the cheapest rotator is these days ? Tandy quit making their rotatable outside RV antenna. It was not sold at Radio Shack. Radio Shack does have a similar looking round unit that does not have the motor. The thing that might be nice is like the old antennas that used a multiple transmission line going to a box that selected element pairs for directional control. You can also do this using two antennas. I bought an RCA unit that went bust. Its an amplified little square box I lay on the roof. Works pretty well. I remember my grandparents had different TV antennas and knife switches for different channels. greg |
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Good outdoor omni-directional fm antenna ?
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JBorg, Jr. wrote: .... Then went to Fry's and bought a rotor with wire-dial control, a pole (2) and RG6 cable (I'm sure) at high-end store. Then installed them on the roof by fastening on the chimney and came down to listen. If there is such thing as miracle on the roof, THIS is IT. I caught so many stations that I begun to loose count after 105. I first started listing them one at the time earnestly for the next 4 or 5 days, and then got tired. If I turn the antenna's rotor using the control at, say, 180 degrees, I'd get an altogether different station -- in the same dial! They're all clear except when it's overcast. The stations that comes clear nearby, comes clearer. I get stations from as far as 75 to 100 miles and perhaps farther than I care to know. I dreaded it each time I came accross and saw this (unfinished) list 'cause I feel guilty. I really don't wanna do that anymore. Let the FCC computer make the list for you. Get your latitude/longitude in Degrees/Minutes/Seconds notation and go to the FCC web site (www.fcc.gov), link to the Media Bureau section and find the license database search page for FM. (They have ones for TV and AM, too). Enter in your location and the maximum distance, and the search page will give you a list of the stations (in a bunch of different formats). The lists give the bearing and distance to each station from your location. Mark Zenier Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com) |
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Good outdoor omni-directional fm antenna ?
JBorg, Jr. wrote:
Guess what, indoor, the flexible dipole beats the ST-2 hands down in everyway. No contest. I've always had fine performance from the cheap wire dipoles. I tried one of the RS omni-directionals once (looks like an X made of 3' oblong loops), and was not impressed. |
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Good outdoor omni-directional fm antenna ?
Mark Zenier wrote:
In article , JBorg, Jr. wrote: ... Then went to Fry's and bought a rotor with wire-dial control, a pole (2) and RG6 cable (I'm sure) at high-end store. Then installed them on the roof by fastening on the chimney and came down to listen. If there is such thing as miracle on the roof, THIS is IT. I caught so many stations that I begun to loose count after 105. I first started listing them one at the time earnestly for the next 4 or 5 days, and then got tired. If I turn the antenna's rotor using the control at, say, 180 degrees, I'd get an altogether different station -- in the same dial! They're all clear except when it's overcast. The stations that comes clear nearby, comes clearer. I get stations from as far as 75 to 100 miles and perhaps farther than I care to know. I dreaded it each time I came accross and saw this (unfinished) list 'cause I feel guilty. I really don't wanna do that anymore. Let the FCC computer make the list for you. Get your latitude/longitude in Degrees/Minutes/Seconds notation and go to the FCC web site (www.fcc.gov), link to the Media Bureau section and find the license database search page for FM. (They have ones for TV and AM, too). Enter in your location and the maximum distance, and the search page will give you a list of the stations (in a bunch of different formats). The lists give the bearing and distance to each station from your location. Mark Zenier Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com) www.fccinfo.com is easier |
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Good outdoor omni-directional fm antenna ?
dave wrote:
Mark Zenier wrote: Let the FCC computer make the list for you. Get your latitude/longitude in Degrees/Minutes/Seconds notation and go to the FCC web site (www.fcc.gov), link to the Media Bureau section and find the license database search page for FM. (They have ones for TV and AM, too). Enter in your location and the maximum distance, and the search page will give you a list of the stations (in a bunch of different formats). The lists give the bearing and distance to each station from your location. www.fccinfo.com is easier Thanks Mark & dave, that's interesting and I'll look into it. |
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Good outdoor omni-directional fm antenna ?
dizzy wrote:
JBorg, Jr. wrote: Guess what, indoor, the flexible dipole beats the ST-2 hands down in everyway. No contest. I've always had fine performance from the cheap wire dipoles. I tried one of the RS omni-directionals once (looks like an X made of 3' oblong loops), and was not impressed. Making these toy-like, table-top and wall mounted antennas to work is as rewarding as giving lessons to teach a baboon the fine art of French cuisine. Compared to an outdoor, roof-top well-designed yagis with rotor, these mini-omnidirectionals are like pinworms contending with anacondas. Go DXing ! |
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Good outdoor omni-directional fm antenna ?
GregS wrote:
Without a doubt, a good Yagi on a rotator is best. I wonder what the cheapest rotator is these days ? Not sure about cheapest, I paid about 45 bucks for mine at Fry's Electronics. It's well-built and obviously weather resistant. Still working to this day. Go DXing ! |
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