RadioBanter

RadioBanter (https://www.radiobanter.com/)
-   Shortwave (https://www.radiobanter.com/shortwave/)
-   -   "Why the drop outs? (https://www.radiobanter.com/shortwave/132987-why-drop-outs.html)

IBOCcrock April 26th 08 09:59 PM

"Why the drop outs?
 
"Why the drop outs?

"I just installed the jvc hdr1 hd radio in my accord. I have the
antenna that is in the rear window.. I recieve alot of the hd radio
stations, but I am also getting alot of drop outs in my reception...
then it takes up to 10 seconds, sometimes less, to get the music
back.... I searched for some kind of antenna amplifier, but no deal...
is this normal for hd radio, do I need to buy a new antenna, if I am
receiving my regular stations fine? I am in NJ.. I get alot of the NJ
and NY hd stations which is the reason why I purchased it.... thanks
in advance..."

"HD1 should switch back to analog FM, this can be very very very
annoying if the volume level or timing is way off, but you should not
experience a dropout. HD2 and HD3 are subject to frequent dropouts
making their use in a moving vehicle more than annoying. Gerrrrr. Just
who thought this was going to be a practical technology since most
people listen to radio in their moving vehicles? I don't experience
these issues with AM HD and it does sound 100 times better than
conventional reception on today's poor AM radios."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1022780

This inherently-flawed digital system is never going to work,
especialy in-dash!

harvey[_2_] April 26th 08 10:09 PM

"Why the drop outs?
 
On Apr 26, 4:59 pm, IBOCcrock wrote:
"Why the drop outs?

"I just installed the jvc hdr1 hd radio in my accord. I have the
antenna that is in the rear window.. I recieve alot of the hd radio
stations, but I am also getting alot of drop outs in my reception...
then it takes up to 10 seconds, sometimes less, to get the music
back.... I searched for some kind of antenna amplifier, but no deal...
is this normal for hd radio, do I need to buy a new antenna, if I am
receiving my regular stations fine? I am in NJ.. I get alot of the NJ
and NY hd stations which is the reason why I purchased it.... thanks
in advance..."

"HD1 should switch back to analog FM, this can be very very very
annoying if the volume level or timing is way off, but you should not
experience a dropout. HD2 and HD3 are subject to frequent dropouts
making their use in a moving vehicle more than annoying. Gerrrrr. Just
who thought this was going to be a practical technology since most
people listen to radio in their moving vehicles? I don't experience
these issues with AM HD and it does sound 100 times better than
conventional reception on today's poor AM radios."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1022780

This inherently-flawed digital system is never going to work,
especialy in-dash!


Yep !

I'd ask for my money back . . .


Telamon April 27th 08 02:12 AM

"Why the drop outs?
 
In article
,
IBOCcrock wrote:

"Why the drop outs?

"I just installed the jvc hdr1 hd radio in my accord. I have the
antenna that is in the rear window.. I recieve alot of the hd radio
stations, but I am also getting alot of drop outs in my reception...
then it takes up to 10 seconds, sometimes less, to get the music
back.... I searched for some kind of antenna amplifier, but no deal...
is this normal for hd radio, do I need to buy a new antenna, if I am
receiving my regular stations fine? I am in NJ.. I get alot of the NJ
and NY hd stations which is the reason why I purchased it.... thanks
in advance..."

"HD1 should switch back to analog FM, this can be very very very
annoying if the volume level or timing is way off, but you should not
experience a dropout. HD2 and HD3 are subject to frequent dropouts
making their use in a moving vehicle more than annoying. Gerrrrr. Just
who thought this was going to be a practical technology since most
people listen to radio in their moving vehicles? I don't experience
these issues with AM HD and it does sound 100 times better than
conventional reception on today's poor AM radios."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1022780

This inherently-flawed digital system is never going to work,
especialy in-dash!


The system works as expected. The problem is that peoples expectations
are out of line. People want trouble free reception and this system will
not do that.

I don't know where you got the quote from but I have listened to HD AM
radio and the sound quality sucks. HD AM sounding better than analog is
pure BS. There is no technical reason to believe that HD AM can sound
better than analog.

I'll just keep on waiting for these 2nd generation radios to come out
before I give HD another try.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

IBOCcrock April 27th 08 12:56 PM

"Why the drop outs?
 
On Apr 26, 9:12�pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,





�IBOCcrock wrote:
"Why the drop outs?


"I just installed the jvc hdr1 hd radio in my accord. I have the
antenna that is in the rear window.. I recieve alot of the hd radio
stations, but I am also getting alot of drop outs in my reception...
then it takes up to 10 seconds, sometimes less, to get the music
back.... I searched for some kind of antenna amplifier, but no deal...
is this normal for hd radio, do I need to buy a new antenna, if I am
receiving my regular stations fine? I am in NJ.. I get alot of the NJ
and NY hd stations which is the reason why I purchased it.... thanks
in advance..."


"HD1 should switch back to analog FM, this can be very very very
annoying if the volume level or timing is way off, but you should not
experience a dropout. HD2 and HD3 are subject to frequent dropouts
making their use in a moving vehicle more than annoying. Gerrrrr. Just
who thought this was going to be a practical technology since most
people listen to radio in their moving vehicles? I don't experience
these issues with AM HD and it does sound 100 times better than
conventional reception on today's poor AM radios."


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1022780


This inherently-flawed digital system is never going to work,
especialy in-dash!


The system works as expected. The problem is that peoples expectations
are out of line. People want trouble free reception and this system will
not do that.

I don't know where you got the quote from but I have listened to HD AM
radio and the sound quality sucks. HD AM sounding better than analog is
pure BS. There is no technical reason to believe that HD AM can sound
better than analog.

I'll just keep on waiting for these 2nd generation radios to come out
before I give HD another try.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


The problem lies in the low-power IBOC signals, so new receivers won't
help much, besides with digital, it's all-or-nothing, which consumers
won't put up with.

RHF April 27th 08 01:19 PM

"Why the drop outs?
 
On Apr 27, 4:56Â*am, IBOCcrock wrote:
On Apr 26, 9:12�pm, Telamon





wrote:
In article
,


�IBOCcrock wrote:
"Why the drop outs?


"I just installed the jvc hdr1 hd radio in my accord. I have the
antenna that is in the rear window.. I recieve alot of the hd radio
stations, but I am also getting alot of drop outs in my reception...
then it takes up to 10 seconds, sometimes less, to get the music
back.... I searched for some kind of antenna amplifier, but no deal...
is this normal for hd radio, do I need to buy a new antenna, if I am
receiving my regular stations fine? I am in NJ.. I get alot of the NJ
and NY hd stations which is the reason why I purchased it.... thanks
in advance..."


"HD1 should switch back to analog FM, this can be very very very
annoying if the volume level or timing is way off, but you should not
experience a dropout. HD2 and HD3 are subject to frequent dropouts
making their use in a moving vehicle more than annoying. Gerrrrr. Just
who thought this was going to be a practical technology since most
people listen to radio in their moving vehicles? I don't experience
these issues with AM HD and it does sound 100 times better than
conventional reception on today's poor AM radios."


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1022780


This inherently-flawed digital system is never going to work,
especialy in-dash!


The system works as expected. The problem is that peoples expectations
are out of line. People want trouble free reception and this system will
not do that.


I don't know where you got the quote from but I have listened to HD AM
radio and the sound quality sucks. HD AM sounding better than analog is
pure BS. There is no technical reason to believe that HD AM can sound
better than analog.


I'll just keep on waiting for these 2nd generation radios to come out
before I give HD another try.


--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


The problem lies in the low-power IBOC signals, so new receivers won't
help much, besides with digital, it's all-or-nothing, which consumers
won't put up with.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Drop-Outs - The Story of Celphone Digital Technology all over again

Answer - More Digital Power At The Radio Tower !

hello fcc - one percent solution ain't working ~ RHF

IBOCcrock April 27th 08 05:29 PM

"Why the drop outs?
 
On Apr 27, 8:19Â*am, RHF wrote:
On Apr 27, 4:56Â*am, IBOCcrock wrote:





On Apr 26, 9:12�pm, Telamon


wrote:
In article
,


�IBOCcrock wrote:
"Why the drop outs?


"I just installed the jvc hdr1hd radioin my accord. I have the
antenna that is in the rear window.. I recieve alot of thehd radio
stations, but I am also getting alot of drop outs in my reception...
then it takes up to 10 seconds, sometimes less, to get the music
back.... I searched for some kind of antenna amplifier, but no deal....
is this normal forhd radio, do I need to buy a new antenna, if I am
receiving my regular stations fine? I am in NJ.. I get alot of the NJ
and NY hd stations which is the reason why I purchased it.... thanks
in advance..."


"HD1 should switch back to analog FM, this can be very very very
annoying if the volume level or timing is way off, but you should not
experience a dropout. HD2 and HD3 are subject to frequent dropouts
making their use in a moving vehicle more than annoying. Gerrrrr. Just
who thought this was going to be a practical technology since most
people listen to radio in their moving vehicles? I don't experience
these issues with AM HD and it does sound 100 times better than
conventional reception on today's poor AM radios."


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1022780


This inherently-flawed digital system is never going to work,
especialy in-dash!


The system works as expected. The problem is that peoples expectations
are out of line. People want trouble free reception and this system will
not do that.


I don't know where you got the quote from but I have listened to HD AM
radio and the sound quality sucks. HD AM sounding better than analog is
pure BS. There is no technical reason to believe that HD AM can sound
better than analog.


I'll just keep on waiting for these 2nd generation radios to come out
before I give HD another try.


--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


The problem lies in the low-power IBOC signals, so new receivers won't
help much, besides with digital, it's all-or-nothing, which consumers
won't put up with.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Drop-Outs - The Story of Celphone Digital Technology all over again

Answer - More Digital Power At The Radio Tower !

hello fcc - one percent solution ain't working ~ RHF
Â*.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


AND, neither will the proposed 10db FM-HD power increase help - it
will result in unacceptable adjacent-channel interference, and require
HD broadcasters to replace all transmitters, antennas, STLs, etc., so
it isn't going to happen. Broadcasters are broke, and stocks in the
dumpsters.

Telamon April 28th 08 02:31 AM

"Why the drop outs?
 
In article
,
IBOCcrock wrote:

On Apr 26, 9:12?pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,





?IBOCcrock wrote:
"Why the drop outs?


"I just installed the jvc hdr1 hd radio in my accord. I have the
antenna that is in the rear window.. I recieve alot of the hd radio
stations, but I am also getting alot of drop outs in my reception...
then it takes up to 10 seconds, sometimes less, to get the music
back.... I searched for some kind of antenna amplifier, but no deal...
is this normal for hd radio, do I need to buy a new antenna, if I am
receiving my regular stations fine? I am in NJ.. I get alot of the NJ
and NY hd stations which is the reason why I purchased it.... thanks
in advance..."


"HD1 should switch back to analog FM, this can be very very very
annoying if the volume level or timing is way off, but you should not
experience a dropout. HD2 and HD3 are subject to frequent dropouts
making their use in a moving vehicle more than annoying. Gerrrrr. Just
who thought this was going to be a practical technology since most
people listen to radio in their moving vehicles? I don't experience
these issues with AM HD and it does sound 100 times better than
conventional reception on today's poor AM radios."


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1022780


This inherently-flawed digital system is never going to work,
especialy in-dash!


The system works as expected. The problem is that peoples expectations
are out of line. People want trouble free reception and this system will
not do that.

I don't know where you got the quote from but I have listened to HD AM
radio and the sound quality sucks. HD AM sounding better than analog is
pure BS. There is no technical reason to believe that HD AM can sound
better than analog.

I'll just keep on waiting for these 2nd generation radios to come out
before I give HD another try.

- Show quoted text -


The problem lies in the low-power IBOC signals, so new receivers won't
help much, besides with digital, it's all-or-nothing, which consumers
won't put up with.


No. The problem is that it is a lousy design.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Scooter May 3rd 08 01:49 AM

"Why the drop outs?
 
I agree with Telamon HD technonogy sucks! Not similar, much like the way Am
stereo was mismanged and look what happend.. it died.

barnegatdx May 3rd 08 02:14 AM

"Why the drop outs?
 
On May 2, 8:49 pm, "Scooter" wrote:
I agree with Telamon HD technonogy sucks! Not similar, much like the way Am
stereo was mismanged and look what happend.. it died.


I may buy one of these things if it's at a Dollar store,

- or in an electronics Bin on Canal Street in NYC..

The technology of Rel 1.0 is probably meant for " Lab Only "
conditions,

and , with so many reflections, the electronics doubtless just throw
up their hands & quit

They might be good for something;

Doorstop, Boat anchor ,

etc..

BarnegatDx




A Brown May 3rd 08 03:43 AM

"Why the drop outs?
 

"Scooter" wrote:


I agree with Telamon HD technonogy sucks! Not similar, much like the way Am
stereo was mismanged and look what happend.. it died.


It's different.....

The FCC refused to pick an AM stereo standard...therefore there were
competing and incompatible systems on the air. ANd manufacturers had to
choose which format to create radios for it. The "market chooses" approach
took too long, and when a system became the standard, there was no music
left on AM.

In this case there is ONE standard! And everybody is on board with it!

Car manufacturers don't have to pick a standard, stations dont have to pick
a standard, listeners don't have to pick a standard.






All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:05 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
RadioBanter.com