"Why the drop outs?
 

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"A Brown" wrote in message
...
"There are serious issues of coverage. Early adopters who bought HD
radios report serious drop-outs, poor coverage, and interference.

Gee, sounds like the stuff they used to say about FM!

(And we all k now how that turned out!)
Nobody ever said that about FM as far as I know.

Maybe it was before your time....

"I can't pick it up!" "It needs a BIG antenna". "I costs more".
"There's Nothing on FM I would want to hear".

"Same thing I can get on AM." "Who needs an FM Radio when I have my
(staticky) FM?"

Then came a time when radio manufacturers were required to include the FM
Band, right?

Add to that "I don't see why they are making me buy and FM radio when I
don't want one!"

FM was added to more radios within a given line as it became more popular.
FM gained popularity primarily due to content, and not fidelity.

But why? "Everyone was happy with AM Radio." "FM Radio cost more money."

There'll always be people who want to go back to the stone age....

"Why the drop outs?
 

And IOBOC doesn't either...unless youa re listening to stations that are
not
required to cover your area.

That's retard talk. If I want to listen to it and a near by IBOC station
screws that up is all I care about.

If you want to listen to BBC Radio I in America and you can't pick it up
because a NYC station is on the same frequency, should the FCC mandate a
change?

Face it. Stations are only protected within certain contours.

Outside of that it's gravy.

BS. People that want to listen to stations on the dial are not holding
back technological innovation IBOC does that.

two thoughts...

You can't listen to everything...as radio signals are finite...and they are
only protected so far...

Second, there are many more station offerred thru IBOC. So "lack of choice"
is a nonissue.

IBOC has elicited a massive ennui from the American populus

How lonf did FM take to be the accepted standard?

What has that have to do with IBOC?

New standards and new technology take time for the public to realize.

And since this is an advertiser supported medium...the content depends on
the listenership.

The FCC isn't protecting nightime clear channel stations anymore...

Yes, the stations themselves are doing it.

There's not much a former "clear channel" station can do if the FCC allows
another station on their frequency.

"Why the drop outs?
 

Its a new technology...just like Color TV, Stereo, RDS, etc.

Deal with it.

Color TV and FM stereo didn't wipe out extra spectrum when they were
introduced.

Nor is IBOC.

Where is it written that everything has to be digital?

Read carefully: P-R-O-G-R-E-S-S

IBOC is not P-R-O-G-R-E-S-S. IBOC is old technology misapplied to the
broadcast bands.

The digital revolution is old technology? Funny...it seems like everything
else around us is using digitization to improve.

But you can stay with DOS if you like....

IBOC is a stupid pointy haired boss idea.

And IBOC detractors are whiney little low-level employees who complain that
the world is passing them by.

"Why the drop outs?
 

In article ,
"Radio Ron" wrote:

And IOBOC doesn't either...unless youa re listening to stations that are
not
required to cover your area.

That's retard talk. If I want to listen to it and a near by IBOC station
screws that up is all I care about.

If you want to listen to BBC Radio I in America and you can't pick it up
because a NYC station is on the same frequency, should the FCC mandate a
change?

Face it. Stations are only protected within certain contours.

Outside of that it's gravy.

BS. People that want to listen to stations on the dial are not holding
back technological innovation IBOC does that.

two thoughts...

You can't listen to everything...as radio signals are finite...and they are
only protected so far...

Second, there are many more station offerred thru IBOC. So "lack of choice"
is a nonissue.

IBOC has elicited a massive ennui from the American populus

How lonf did FM take to be the accepted standard?

What has that have to do with IBOC?

New standards and new technology take time for the public to realize.

And since this is an advertiser supported medium...the content depends on
the listenership.

The FCC isn't protecting nightime clear channel stations anymore...

Yes, the stations themselves are doing it.

There's not much a former "clear channel" station can do if the FCC allows
another station on their frequency.

I find it real interesting that in the name of some bogus digital
progress you think it is just fine that the choices I had being taken
away is no problem. You need to rethink that thought.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

"Why the drop outs?
 

In article ,
"Radio Ron" wrote:

Its a new technology...just like Color TV, Stereo, RDS, etc.

Deal with it.

Color TV and FM stereo didn't wipe out extra spectrum when they were
introduced.

Nor is IBOC.

Where is it written that everything has to be digital?

Read carefully: P-R-O-G-R-E-S-S

IBOC is not P-R-O-G-R-E-S-S. IBOC is old technology misapplied to the
broadcast bands.

The digital revolution is old technology? Funny...it seems like everything
else around us is using digitization to improve.

But you can stay with DOS if you like....

The IBOC concept is about as old as DOS.

IBOC is a stupid pointy haired boss idea.

And IBOC detractors are whiney little low-level employees who complain that
the world is passing them by.

I am a radio listener that has experienced the band deteriorate due to
this piece o' crap technology called IBOC. The people that are promoting
IBOC are a bunch of marketing retards that don't understand this
misapplication of digital technology.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

"Why the drop outs?
 

In article ,
"Radio Ron" wrote:


"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"A Brown" wrote in message
...
"There are serious issues of coverage. Early adopters who bought HD
radios report serious drop-outs, poor coverage, and interference.

Gee, sounds like the stuff they used to say about FM!

(And we all k now how that turned out!)
Nobody ever said that about FM as far as I know.

Maybe it was before your time....

"I can't pick it up!" "It needs a BIG antenna". "I costs more".
"There's Nothing on FM I would want to hear".

"Same thing I can get on AM." "Who needs an FM Radio when I have my
(staticky) FM?"

Then came a time when radio manufacturers were required to include the FM
Band, right?

Add to that "I don't see why they are making me buy and FM radio when I
don't want one!"

FM was added to more radios within a given line as it became more popular.
FM gained popularity primarily due to content, and not fidelity.

But why? "Everyone was happy with AM Radio." "FM Radio cost more money."

There'll always be people who want to go back to the stone age....

I own several radios that do not have the FM broadcast band. They are
SW and AMBCB.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

"Why the drop outs?
 

On May 7, 6:02*am, dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On May 6, 8:14 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
*"A Brown" wrote:

I agree with Telamon HD technonogy sucks! Not similar, much like the way
Am
stereo was mismanged and look what happend.. it died.
It's different.....
The FCC refused to pick an AM stereo standard...therefore there were
competing and incompatible systems on the air. *ANd manufacturers had to
choose which format to create radios for it. *The "market chooses"
approach took too long, and when a system became the standard, there was
no music left on AM.
In this case there is ONE standard! *And everybody is on board with it!
Car manufacturers don't have to pick a standard, stations dont have to
pick a standard, listeners don't have to pick a standard.
Listeners, by and large, have chosen their preferred standard: ordinary
analog...
Listeners have not made any conscious choice. *Most of them don't even know
what HD radio is...
I have and so have others.

- HD radio, tune in, turn on, and drop out. Ha ha ha.
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- Telamon
- Ventura, California
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Teli - Almost read like a 'david' post. ~ RHF
*.

Except David knows one must first turn on, then tune in.- Hide quoted text -

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David Knows - That He Do ~ RHF

"Why the drop outs?
 

Radio Ron wrote:
"dave" wrote in message
...
A Brown wrote:

Its a new technology...just like Color TV, Stereo, RDS, etc.

Deal with it.

Color TV and FM stereo didn't wipe out extra spectrum when they were
introduced.

Nor is IBOC.

Where is it written that everything has to be digital?

Read carefully: P-R-O-G-R-E-S-S



Like I said, when they make a $5 digital radio that'll run for a week on
one battery, I'll call it progress.

"Why the drop outs?
 

Radio Ron wrote:
"dave" wrote in message
. ..
Radio Ron wrote:
Its a new technology...just like Color TV, Stereo, RDS, etc.
SNIP

"just like"? Heck no, that stuff works.

My HD radio is working fine!

It must be you.


If one wants to listen to 1150 in Los Angeles in the morning one must put
up with IBOC crap from 1140 in Sacto and 1160 in SLC.

Not if you are in LA....which is the city of service for 1150AM.

A service to thousands is diminished for the benefit of a handful of
techies.

No, for the benefit of listeners in LA...which is the service area for
1150AM.



I am 6 miles from the Los Angeles city limits.

"Why the drop outs?
 

A Brown wrote:
and interference complaints (especially with nighttime AM IBOC) from
many
stations in the US, Canada and Mexico, where IBOC sidebands interfere
within the city grade contours of existing stations.
The FCC isn't protecting nightime clear channel stations anymore...
I'm talking about local stations in said localities, many within their
protected contours.

Please cite the case you are speaking about....

Where does a local station get interfered with in their own city of license
or protected contour by another stations IBOC.

I have never heard of such a case.



The Mighty 1090 gets trashed by KNX.