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dave May 8th 08 01:45 PM

"Why the drop outs?
 
A Brown wrote:
"There are serious issues of coverage. Early adopters who bought HD
radios report serious drop-outs, poor coverage, and interference.

Gee, sounds like the stuff they used to say about FM!

(And we all k now how that turned out!)
Nobody ever said that about FM as far as I know.

Maybe it was before your time....

"I can't pick it up!" "It needs a BIG antenna". "I costs more".
"There's Nothing on FM I would want to hear".

"Same thing I can get on AM." "Who needs an FM Radio when I have my
(staticky) FM?"


Then came a time when radio manufacturers were required to include the FM
Band, right?

That never happened.

dave May 8th 08 01:46 PM

"Why the drop outs?
 
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
"Radio Ron" wrote:

Its a new technology...just like Color TV, Stereo, RDS, etc.
SNIP

"just like"? Heck no, that stuff works.

My HD radio is working fine!

It must be you.
You must be nuts.

You meant to say HD is working like crap. That I could believe.

Nope.

I'm listening right now. Works fine here.

It's you.


Maybe you are right, I don't have tin ears.

You probably never got a cell phone becuase your old CB radio works just
fine, right?


I have the same electronic leash every indispensable person else has.
That used to mean a pager years back but is now a cell phone these days.

I'm so glad I'm an hourly worker and can ignore the phone when I want to.

Radio Ron May 8th 08 06:46 PM

"Why the drop outs?
 

I find it real interesting that in the name of some bogus digital
progress you think it is just fine that the choices I had being taken
away is no problem. You need to rethink that thought.


If this was prevalent....don't you think there'd be a massive revolt among
radio listeners?

FWIW...let's get specific...what "choices" got taken away from you?

The IBOC concept is about as old as DOS.


And what happenned to DOS? It turned into Win 3.1 Win 95, 98, 2000,
XP...and people still had the choice of a MAC or Linux.

The people that are promoting IBOC are a bunch of marketing retards


I am not in marketing, nor am I a retard.

Do you want to call names or have a dsicussion?



Radio Ron May 8th 08 06:57 PM

"Why the drop outs?
 

"dave" wrote in message
. ..
Radio Ron wrote:


The FCC isn't protecting nightime clear channel stations anymore...


The FCC is run by idiots.

Luckily, cooler heads prevail at Citadel, where they protect their night
signals by turning the interference generators off at sunset.


Surprise, it's back on!

(If not all of their stations...at least some of them.)

"Its primary service area is protected from

objectionable interference from other stations on the same and adjacent
channels"

Again, only in the Primary service area.

The idea of "clear channels" is a remnant of the past.

I am 6 miles from the Los Angeles city limits.


And you have trouble picking up 1150AM?

Are you on the outside of their primary service area?

http://radio-locator.com/pats/KTLK_AM_LN.gif

The Mighty 1090 gets trashed by KNX.


You mean a station licensed to Mexico that is primarily serving San Diego?

Are you outside of the primary serivce area?

http://radio-locator.com/pats/XEPRS_AM_FN.gif






A Brown May 9th 08 03:03 AM

"Why the drop outs?
 
I find it real interesting that in the name of some bogus digital
progress you think it is just fine that the choices I had being taken
away is no problem. You need to rethink that thought.


If this was prevalent....don't you think there'd be a massive revolt
among
radio listeners?

FWIW...let's get specific...what "choices" got taken away from you?


Mostly choice in the evenings. Some programs are not broadcast from
around here so I tune to more distant stations to hear them.


nothing specific?

And what happenned to DOS? It turned into Win 3.1 Win 95, 98, 2000,
XP...and people still had the choice of a MAC or Linux.


That kind comparison or thinking is why IBOC is what it is today.


And I'm glad to be using my Windows XP machine...and not the old DOS one.

The people that are promoting IBOC are a bunch of marketing retards


I am not in marketing, nor am I a retard.

Do you want to call names or have a dsicussion?


A discussion would be preferable but this has been hashed out in this
news group numerous times...


Hashed out by calling people 'retards'?

I'm sure that led to a lot of enlightening discussions....





--
Telamon
Ventura, California





Telamon May 9th 08 03:15 AM

"Why the drop outs?
 
In article ,
"A Brown" wrote:

I find it real interesting that in the name of some bogus digital
progress you think it is just fine that the choices I had being taken
away is no problem. You need to rethink that thought.

If this was prevalent....don't you think there'd be a massive revolt
among
radio listeners?

FWIW...let's get specific...what "choices" got taken away from you?


Mostly choice in the evenings. Some programs are not broadcast from
around here so I tune to more distant stations to hear them.


nothing specific?


I thought what I wrote was clear.

And what happenned to DOS? It turned into Win 3.1 Win 95, 98, 2000,
XP...and people still had the choice of a MAC or Linux.


That kind comparison or thinking is why IBOC is what it is today.


And I'm glad to be using my Windows XP machine...and not the old DOS one.


I'm not. I think it is to bad you have a computer at all.

The people that are promoting IBOC are a bunch of marketing retards

I am not in marketing, nor am I a retard.

Do you want to call names or have a dsicussion?


A discussion would be preferable but this has been hashed out in this
news group numerous times...


Hashed out by calling people 'retards'?

I'm sure that led to a lot of enlightening discussions....



I'm sure you had something to say in your reply but what could it be?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

A Brown May 9th 08 03:44 AM

"Why the drop outs?
 


I'm sure you had something to say in your reply but what could it be?


Are people that hate IBOC on the payroll for XM and Sirius?




Radio Ron May 9th 08 07:15 AM

"Why the drop outs?
 

And what happenned to DOS? It turned into Win 3.1 Win 95, 98, 2000,
XP...and people still had the choice of a MAC or Linux.

That kind comparison or thinking is why IBOC is what it is today.


And I'm glad to be using my Windows XP machine...and not the old DOS one.


I'm not. I think it is to bad you have a computer at all.


Telamon I see you bring discussion to a whole new level.

You have a feeling and you dont want to let facts get in the way.



Rob[_5_] May 9th 08 07:20 AM

"Why the drop outs?
 

FWIW...let's get specific...what "choices" got taken away from you?

Mostly choice in the evenings. Some programs are not broadcast from
around here so I tune to more distant stations to hear them.


nothing specific?


I thought what I wrote was clear.


Clear as mud.

What station are you having trouble listening to from what location?

What station is interefering with it?

I'm sure you had something to say in your reply but what could it be?


I'm reminded of something the nuns used to say.

God gave you two ears and one mouth....so you can listen twice as much as
you speak.



dave May 9th 08 12:54 PM

"Why the drop outs?
 
Radio Ron wrote:
"dave" wrote in message
. ..
Radio Ron wrote:

The FCC isn't protecting nightime clear channel stations anymore...

The FCC is run by idiots.

Luckily, cooler heads prevail at Citadel, where they protect their night
signals by turning the interference generators off at sunset.


Surprise, it's back on!

(If not all of their stations...at least some of them.)

"Its primary service area is protected from

objectionable interference from other stations on the same and adjacent
channels"

Again, only in the Primary service area.

The idea of "clear channels" is a remnant of the past.

I am 6 miles from the Los Angeles city limits.


And you have trouble picking up 1150AM?

Are you on the outside of their primary service area?

http://radio-locator.com/pats/KTLK_AM_LN.gif

That map is a joke. KTLK comes in better in Vegas at night than it does
at my house in Santa Clarita.

KNX trashes 1090 in North County.


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