On May 15, 5:36*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2009 16:30:07 -0700 (PDT), Gary Forbis

wrote:
On May 15, 3:19*pm, "
wrote:
On May 15, 9:02*am, Gary Forbis wrote:
Milton Freidman coined the phrase "there's no such thing as a free
lunch." *I live by that phrase. *Milton Friedman's other philosophies
screwed up several economies. *

That assumption has long ago been proved false by social economists.

The assumption that people are rational and act in their best
interests is demonstrably false.

Read for example:

"Predictably Irrational"http://www.amazon.com/Predictably-Irrational-Hidden-Forces-Decisions/...

Read also:
Sway: The Irresistible Pull of Irrational Behaviorhttp://www.amazon.com/Sway-Irresistible-Pull-Irrational-Behavior/dp/0...

People can be expected to act irrationally - and with knowledge you
can predict when and how and take advantage of it - producing the
"free lunch".

These new emerging findings are blowing common economic thought out of
the water. People are not rational and do not pursue their best
interests. They can be and are manipulated against their own economic
interests.

After 12 years of Obama this country will be so dumbed down they'll
think that **** is ice cream. Free health care will be no health
care.
All deviant behavior will be the norm by definition.
You wanted change? You got it. Enjoy yourself.

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On May 17, 11:03 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-Everything@Talk-n-
Dog..com wrote:
dave wrote:
Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
do so
http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/mini....eecapitalist&t....
Sounds like a preacher.
Capitalism is a "way of life".

capitalism is a system that can comfortably reside with in any
system. its a system where you can leave your brains, morals, and what
make us humans behind. and its always doomed to failure if its left
onto its own
what really makes capitalism work, is when you use your brains,
morals, and what makes us a whole human being with all of the usual
goodies such as empathy, pity, remorse, ethics, and yes, morals.

What you are saying is that Liberalism and Socialism, when mixed with
Capitalism is a deadly Sin.....

On May 15, 5:58*pm, Gary Forbis wrote:
On May 15, 5:47*pm, "Clave"
wrote:

wrote in message

.. .

...

These new emerging findings are blowing common economic thought out of
the water. People are not rational and do not pursue their best
interests. They can be and are manipulated against their own economic
interests.

Case in point, poor people who vote Republican.

I don't consider that a free lunch. *The poor pay
heavily for their acts in voting Republican.

Did those poor people vote for Dodd, Frank and Pelosi? I doubt it.
Liberals always blame the poor for all the problems. I blame the rich
Democrats.

wrote:
On May 17, 12:57 pm, dave wrote:
wrote:
On May 17, 11:03 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-Everything@Talk-n-
Dog..com wrote:
dave wrote:
Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
do so
http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/mini....eecapitalist&t...
Sounds like a preacher.
Capitalism is a "way of life".
capitalism is a system that can comfortably reside with in any
system. its a system where you can leave your brains, morals, and what
make us humans behind. and its always doomed to failure if its left
onto its own
what really makes capitalism work, is when you use your brains,
morals, and what makes us a whole human being with all of the usual
goodies such as empathy, pity, remorse, ethics, and yes, morals.
Capitalism without regulation is the same as a malignant tumor; an
entity that keeps growing until it kills its host.

capitalism will eat its seed corn, eat its youth, and will do
everything in its power to destroy demand(wages), and it looks like it
was successful again.

And yet it took Obama to get America to eat their young.

dave wrote:
wrote:
On May 17, 11:03 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-Everything@Talk-n-
Dog..com wrote:
dave wrote:
Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
do so
http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/mini....eecapitalist&t...

Sounds like a preacher.
Capitalism is a "way of life".

capitalism is a system that can comfortably reside with in any
system. its a system where you can leave your brains, morals, and what
make us humans behind. and its always doomed to failure if its left
onto its own
what really makes capitalism work, is when you use your brains,
morals, and what makes us a whole human being with all of the usual
goodies such as empathy, pity, remorse, ethics, and yes, morals.

Capitalism without regulation is the same as a malignant tumor; an
entity that keeps growing until it kills its host.

And yet we have watched Socialism and Communism and Fascism and
dictators *IMPLODE* before our capitalist eyes.



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http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/mini....031&from= rma
http://Outsourcednews.net

After 40 years of *Liberals* mired down in a war on poverty, with no end
in site and no *exit strategy* or plan for *redeployment* ....here we
are. - Talk-n-Dog -

Dealership closings a big deal for small towns.
www.clarionledger.com
the Business section.

The UAW ruined the Auto factories/businesses.

I HATE Unions, I always have, I always will!

Mississippi is a Right to Work State.It is no wonder so many Auto
factories are moving down South.South is always Best.
www.southernautocorridor.com

It was mostly people from the South many years ago who went up North to
work in the Auto factories.
cuhulin

tv wrote:
On May 15, 5:58 pm, Gary Forbis wrote:
On May 15, 5:47 pm, "Clave"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
...
These new emerging findings are blowing common economic thought out of
the water. People are not rational and do not pursue their best
interests. They can be and are manipulated against their own economic
interests.
Case in point, poor people who vote Republican.
I don't consider that a free lunch. The poor pay
heavily for their acts in voting Republican.

Did those poor people vote for Dodd, Frank and Pelosi? I doubt it.
Liberals always blame the poor for all the problems. I blame the rich
Democrats.

Liberal-Progressives are running a war against the poor. Look at their
attempts at eugenics in the neighborhoods of the poor. The Progressives
have propagandized their plans to control lives of the poor, beginning
with the family and children. Progressives have convinced the poor that
they are incapable of making decisions for themselves.

tv wrote:
On May 15, 5:58 pm, Gary Forbis wrote:
On May 15, 5:47 pm, "Clave"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
...
These new emerging findings are blowing common economic thought out of
the water. People are not rational and do not pursue their best
interests. They can be and are manipulated against their own economic
interests.
Case in point, poor people who vote Republican.
I don't consider that a free lunch. The poor pay
heavily for their acts in voting Republican.

Did those poor people vote for Dodd, Frank and Pelosi? I doubt it.
Liberals always blame the poor for all the problems. I blame the rich
Democrats.

Liberal-Progressives are running a war against the poor. Look at their
attempts at eugenics in the neighborhoods of the poor. The Progressives
have propagandized their plans to control lives of the poor, beginning
with the family and children. Progressives have convinced the poor that
they are incapable of making decisions for themselves.

Progressives are selling the idea that fathers are the problem and offer
the women and children a way to get rid of and avoid evil fathers. Low
and behold there are more divorces and more unwed moms.

Everyone thank the Progressives.

"Beam Me Up Scotty" wrote in
message ...
tv wrote:
On May 15, 5:58 pm, Gary Forbis wrote:
On May 15, 5:47 pm, "Clave"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
...
These new emerging findings are blowing common economic thought out of
the water. People are not rational and do not pursue their best
interests. They can be and are manipulated against their own economic
interests.
Case in point, poor people who vote Republican.
I don't consider that a free lunch. The poor pay
heavily for their acts in voting Republican.

Did those poor people vote for Dodd, Frank and Pelosi? I doubt it.
Liberals always blame the poor for all the problems. I blame the rich
Democrats.

Liberal-Progressives are running a war against the poor. Look at their
attempts at eugenics in the neighborhoods of the poor...

Wow -- your ass sure is talky tonight.

Jim

On May 15, 7:30*pm, Gary Forbis wrote:
On May 15, 3:19*pm, "
wrote:

On May 15, 9:02*am, Gary Forbis wrote:
Milton Freidman coined the phrase "there's no such thing as a free
lunch." *I live by that phrase. *Milton Friedman's other philosophies
screwed up several economies. *

* But, since it's mostly 19th Century media people who live by such
* jingo philosophy, rather than modern computer and technology
* people, that's also why *GPS, Digital Terrain Mapping,
* Holographics, *MP3, MPEG, XML, Fiber Optics, Cell Phones,
* Optical Computers, Distributed Processing, On-Line Publishing,
* USB, Thermo-Electric Cooling, and Self-Replicating Machines where
* built for the spoon benders who think there is no such thing as
* a free lunch

Even the people building these things know there's no such thing
as a free lunch. *They use the term enthropy to identify the concept.

But, since that crap from physics, and is 300 years old, it's
also why the their Chemists, and the the real engineers work on
Thermo-Electric Cooling,
Microwave Cooling, C++, Distributed Processing, post Wal-Mart
Batteries,
Optical Computers, Light Sticks, DVD-rom, CD-rw, USB, HDTV
debugging,
On-Line Banking, On-Line Shopping, On-Line Publishing, Holography,
Autonomous Vehicles, Digital-Terrain Mapping, and GPS for the
entropy cranks anyway.



None the less we still have air conditioners and heat pumps. *Some
silly people might only have a focus inside their air conditioned room
and think "Yup, there is too a free lunch. *It's hot out there and
cool
in here and yet I can make it colder by turning this dial."