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![]() "Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... "D. Peter Maus" wrote in message ... On 10/13/09 13:52 , Jo Jo Gunn wrote: "D. Peter wrote in message ... On 10/13/09 12:47 , Jo Jo Gunn wrote: "D. Peter wrote in message ... On 10/12/09 14:59 , Jo Jo Gunn wrote: "D. Peter wrote in message ... Stereo destroys FM coverage. Those engineers were right. And those that were purists and held to that belief....are all out of business. Not so much. I encounter one or two non-stereo stations every week when I'm on the road. Please name them and their location. I hear them when I'm on the road. I don't have time to catalog them. The last two I heard this past week were in southeastern Missouri and southern Illinois. I don't know Peter...it sounds more anecdotal than anything.... No different than your assertion, my man. You made a generalization about how many stations are still in mono...I asked you to back up that statement...and you couldn't. Just as you made a generalization about how many stations weren't in mono. Also without any support. I'm sure you don't drive the backroads with a pad and paper recording calls, city of license, and whether the pilot is lit. Neither do I. On a road trip, I may hear 15 radio stations a day. I don't record the calls. And they may be 40 miles from where I'm rolling at the time. The only reason I noticed the stations I noticed is because the pilot wasn't lit. But I certainly didn't spend any effort to find out who, or where, they were. I might suggest this: The next time you travel, scan the dial. See if you don't find a couple, yourself. And then see if you can recall the name and location when someone asks you the following week. ![]() A large number of recent FM conversions (sports/talkers) are extinguishing the stereo lamp. No need for stereo on these stations, and it does save a small amount on energy bills and increases the SNR on the fringes. once again, as jo jo asked....can you name one that has extinguished their stereo pilot? i think a lot of people use the stereo light for tuning so it might hurt listenership even if its not needed. |
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On 10/14/09 24:33 , Watchin & Waitin' wrote:
"Brenda wrote in message ... "D. Peter wrote in message ... On 10/13/09 13:52 , Jo Jo Gunn wrote: "D. Peter wrote in message ... On 10/13/09 12:47 , Jo Jo Gunn wrote: "D. Peter wrote in message ... On 10/12/09 14:59 , Jo Jo Gunn wrote: "D. Peter wrote in message ... Stereo destroys FM coverage. Those engineers were right. And those that were purists and held to that belief....are all out of business. Not so much. I encounter one or two non-stereo stations every week when I'm on the road. Please name them and their location. I hear them when I'm on the road. I don't have time to catalog them. The last two I heard this past week were in southeastern Missouri and southern Illinois. I don't know Peter...it sounds more anecdotal than anything.... No different than your assertion, my man. You made a generalization about how many stations are still in mono...I asked you to back up that statement...and you couldn't. Just as you made a generalization about how many stations weren't in mono. Also without any support. I'm sure you don't drive the backroads with a pad and paper recording calls, city of license, and whether the pilot is lit. Neither do I. On a road trip, I may hear 15 radio stations a day. I don't record the calls. And they may be 40 miles from where I'm rolling at the time. The only reason I noticed the stations I noticed is because the pilot wasn't lit. But I certainly didn't spend any effort to find out who, or where, they were. I might suggest this: The next time you travel, scan the dial. See if you don't find a couple, yourself. And then see if you can recall the name and location when someone asks you the following week. ![]() A large number of recent FM conversions (sports/talkers) are extinguishing the stereo lamp. No need for stereo on these stations, and it does save a small amount on energy bills and increases the SNR on the fringes. once again, as jo jo asked....can you name one that has extinguished their stereo pilot? i think a lot of people use the stereo light for tuning so it might hurt listenership even if its not needed. That used to be true. FM Mono Mute was commonplace in home receivers. Until better designs permitted lower noise stereo listening. Keep in mind that many stations killed the pilot during mono programming. Some NPR stations still do. WBEZ, Chicago still does this. So does WFMT. Though mono programming is rare, today. Today, selectable FM stereo itself is comparatively rare in low and midlevel receiver design, with most FM capable receivers simply hardwired to stereo, allowing the 'Blend' circuit to handle low signal noise avoidance by progressively combining the two channels as a function of signal strength, until eventually deep fringe reception is in mono. So FM Mono Mute is no longer a useful function, and like selectable stereo, is not included in many receiver designs. In fact, many car radios no longer even include a stereo pilot indicator. GM Car radios haven't included a stereo pilot indicator for a number of years, now, or even a selectable Mono function. The blend circuit, instead, reduced stereo separation to control low signal noise, so there is no loss of reception during mono broadcasting. I've got two Walkman portables that do not have a stereo indicator, nor selectable mono reception, relying on a blend circuit for FM noise control. |
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On Oct 13, 10:33*pm, "Watchin & Waitin'" wrote:
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... "D. Peter Maus" wrote in message ... On 10/13/09 13:52 , Jo Jo Gunn wrote: "D. Peter *wrote in message ... On 10/13/09 12:47 , Jo Jo Gunn wrote: "D. Peter * wrote in message ... On 10/12/09 14:59 , Jo Jo Gunn wrote: "D. Peter * *wrote in message ... Stereo destroys FM coverage. *Those engineers were right. And those that were purists and held to that belief....are all out of business. * * *Not so much. I encounter one or two non-stereo stations every week when I'm on the road. Please name them and their location. * * I hear them when I'm on the road. I don't have time to catalog them. * * The last two I heard this past week were in southeastern Missouri and southern Illinois. I don't know Peter...it sounds more anecdotal than anything.... * *No different than your assertion, my man. You made a generalization about how many stations are still in mono....I asked you to back up that statement...and you couldn't. * Just as you made a generalization about how many stations weren't in mono. Also without any support. * I'm sure you don't drive the backroads with a pad and paper recording calls, city of license, and whether the pilot is lit. Neither do I. On a road trip, I may hear 15 radio stations a day. I don't record the calls. And they may be 40 miles from where I'm rolling at the time. The only reason I noticed the stations I noticed is because the pilot wasn't lit. |
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