I'm still studying for my ham license and still learning CW. I
enjoyed the Grove website and am looking for a moderate priced
($100-200) receiver for tuning in CW signals. I see many trick radios
in that price range. Some with weather channels, which would be nice,
some with MW/LF besides SW. Also, many claim SSB. A question. Does
shortwave pull in CW. Seems to me it does. I recall a old tube SW
radio I played around with as a kid. Madly studying my band maps. I
would like to pull in some CW signals to help learn.

Also, I need a radio that's pretty sensitive. I'm waaaay out in the
boonies, the CO Rockies at 8K ft. No problem putting up some sorta
rudimentary outside antenna (dipole, etc). Any help appreciated while
I'm still learning all this new stuff.

nb

On 5/28/10 10:32 , notbob wrote:
I'm still studying for my ham license and still learning CW. I
enjoyed the Grove website and am looking for a moderate priced
($100-200) receiver for tuning in CW signals. I see many trick radios
in that price range. Some with weather channels, which would be nice,
some with MW/LF besides SW. Also, many claim SSB. A question. Does
shortwave pull in CW. Seems to me it does. I recall a old tube SW
radio I played around with as a kid. Madly studying my band maps. I
would like to pull in some CW signals to help learn.


CW is a mode of modulation. SW is a band of wavelengths or
frequencies. CW mode modulates a frequency. So if there is CW being
operated on SW, you can pull them in with a CW receiver.

There are many CW operators on Shortwave.


Also, I need a radio that's pretty sensitive. I'm waaaay out in the
boonies, the CO Rockies at 8K ft. No problem putting up some sorta
rudimentary outside antenna (dipole, etc). Any help appreciated while
I'm still learning all this new stuff.


Performance is a function, first, of antenna. It's the antenna
that receives the signal. The receiver simply separates the many
signals on your antenna, and makes them intelligible.

A good antenna on a less sensitive radio will often produce
better results than a lesser antenna on a more sensitive radio.

If you can put up a decent antenna, you can begin with a less
expensive radio.

A good choice, and excellent experience in construction, would be
Ten-Tec 1254. It's in your price range.

http://www.tentec.com/index.php?id=50

There are videos on the Ten-Tec website showing construction
tips, and operational guides.

It's pretty cool for a beginner's radio.




nb

On May 28, 8:45*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 5/28/10 10:32 , notbob wrote:

I'm still studying for my ham license and still learning CW. *I
enjoyed the Grove website and am looking for a moderate priced
($100-200) receiver for tuning in CW signals. *I see many trick radios
in that price range. *Some with weather channels, which would be nice,
some with MW/LF besides SW. *Also, many claim SSB. *A question. *Does
shortwave pull in CW. *Seems to me it does. *I recall a old tube SW
radio I played around with as a kid. *Madly studying my band maps. *I
would like to pull in some CW signals to help learn.

* *CW is a mode of modulation. SW is a band of wavelengths or
frequencies. CW mode modulates a frequency. So if there is CW being
operated on SW, you can pull them in with a CW receiver.

* *There are many CW operators on Shortwave.

Also, I need a radio that's pretty sensitive. *I'm waaaay out in the
boonies, the CO Rockies at 8K ft. *No problem putting up some sorta
rudimentary outside antenna (dipole, etc). *Any help appreciated while
I'm still learning all this new stuff. *

* *Performance is a function, first, of antenna. It's the antenna
that receives the signal. The receiver simply separates the many
signals on your antenna, and makes them intelligible.

* *A good antenna on a less sensitive radio will often produce
better results than a lesser antenna on a more sensitive radio.

* *If you can put up a decent antenna, you can begin with a less
expensive radio.

* *A good choice, and excellent experience in construction, would be
* Ten-Tec 1254. It's in your price range.

http://www.tentec.com/index.php?id=50

* *There are videos on the Ten-Tec website showing construction
tips, and operational guides.

* *It's pretty cool for a beginner's radio.





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He also has the added benefit of being in the boonies, as he puts it,
so a really big antenna to pull in the weaker CW will probably not
result in a big increase in QRM. Such a sweet deal!

On 5/28/10 10:56 , bpnjensen wrote:
On May 28, 8:45 am, "D. Peter wrote:
On 5/28/10 10:32 , notbob wrote:

I'm still studying for my ham license and still learning CW. I
enjoyed the Grove website and am looking for a moderate priced
($100-200) receiver for tuning in CW signals. I see many trick radios
in that price range. Some with weather channels, which would be nice,
some with MW/LF besides SW. Also, many claim SSB. A question. Does
shortwave pull in CW. Seems to me it does. I recall a old tube SW
radio I played around with as a kid. Madly studying my band maps. I
would like to pull in some CW signals to help learn.

CW is a mode of modulation. SW is a band of wavelengths or
frequencies. CW mode modulates a frequency. So if there is CW being
operated on SW, you can pull them in with a CW receiver.

There are many CW operators on Shortwave.

Also, I need a radio that's pretty sensitive. I'm waaaay out in the
boonies, the CO Rockies at 8K ft. No problem putting up some sorta
rudimentary outside antenna (dipole, etc). Any help appreciated while
I'm still learning all this new stuff.

Performance is a function, first, of antenna. It's the antenna
that receives the signal. The receiver simply separates the many
signals on your antenna, and makes them intelligible.

A good antenna on a less sensitive radio will often produce
better results than a lesser antenna on a more sensitive radio.

If you can put up a decent antenna, you can begin with a less
expensive radio.

A good choice, and excellent experience in construction, would be
Ten-Tec 1254. It's in your price range.

http://www.tentec.com/index.php?id=50

There are videos on the Ten-Tec website showing construction
tips, and operational guides.

It's pretty cool for a beginner's radio.





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He also has the added benefit of being in the boonies, as he puts it,
so a really big antenna to pull in the weaker CW will probably not
result in a big increase in QRM. Such a sweet deal!



The very reason I bring a big radio and a very long wire when I
got to the woods. It's very sweet.

D. Peter Maus wrote:

CW is a mode of modulation. SW is a band of wavelengths or frequencies.
CW mode modulates a frequency. So if there is CW being operated on SW,
you can pull them in with a CW receiver.

There are many CW operators on Shortwave.

But you need a BFO to hear them. Not all receivers have BFOs.

notbob wrote:
I'm still studying for my ham license and still learning CW. I
enjoyed the Grove website and am looking for a moderate priced
($100-200) receiver for tuning in CW signals. I see many trick radios
in that price range. Some with weather channels, which would be nice,
some with MW/LF besides SW. Also, many claim SSB. A question. Does
shortwave pull in CW. Seems to me it does. I recall a old tube SW
radio I played around with as a kid. Madly studying my band maps. I
would like to pull in some CW signals to help learn.

As long as you are in a country that does restrict ownership of ham transmitters
to licensed hams, you would be better off IMHO getting a used transcevier.
I assume you are not in the US, because you ask as if you are required to
learn Morse code before getting a license.

If you want to learn Morse code buy a copy of "Code Quick" from Jerry
Wheeler. http://www.cq2k.com/

As for a radio, contact a local club and see if they will lend you one.

If you want to buy a used transceiver you can get a TenTec Trition, or early
Omni, Kenwood TS-520,820,T530,830,130,430 or a similar Icom or Yaseu.

Buy it locally and have them demo it. Do not depend upon an auction site
or mail order deal (except Universal radio) for it to work when it arrives.

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM
New word I coined 12/13/09, "Sub-Wikipedia" adj, describing knowledge or
understanding, as in he has a sub-wikipedia understanding of the situation.
i.e possessing less facts or information than can be found in the Wikipedia.

On May 28, 11:32*am, notbob wrote:
I'm still studying for my ham license and still learning CW. *I
enjoyed the Grove website and am looking for a moderate priced
($100-200) receiver for tuning in CW signals. *I see many trick radios
in that price range. *Some with weather channels, which would be nice,
some with MW/LF besides SW. *Also, many claim SSB. *A question. *Does
shortwave pull in CW. *Seems to me it does. *I recall a old tube SW
radio I played around with as a kid. *Madly studying my band maps. *I
would like to pull in some CW signals to help learn.

Also, I need a radio that's pretty sensitive. *I'm waaaay out in the
boonies, the CO Rockies at 8K ft. *No problem putting up some sorta
rudimentary outside antenna (dipole, etc). *Any help appreciated while
I'm still learning all this new stuff. *

nb

If you're a beginner, listening to longwave beacons might help you
learn CW.

On Fri, 28 May 2010 15:32:42 GMT, notbob wrote:

I'm still studying for my ham license and still learning CW. I
enjoyed the Grove website and am looking for a moderate priced
($100-200) receiver for tuning in CW signals. I see many trick radios
in that price range. Some with weather channels, which would be nice,
some with MW/LF besides SW. Also, many claim SSB. A question. Does
shortwave pull in CW. Seems to me it does. I recall a old tube SW
radio I played around with as a kid. Madly studying my band maps. I
would like to pull in some CW signals to help learn.

Also, I need a radio that's pretty sensitive. I'm waaaay out in the
boonies, the CO Rockies at 8K ft. No problem putting up some sorta
rudimentary outside antenna (dipole, etc). Any help appreciated while
I'm still learning all this new stuff.

nb

Any receiver with SSB will tune in CW signals. However, CW is a narrow
bandwidth mode so a receiver with a narrow/wide filter selection is
preferable. A narrower filter will allow you to zero in on one station
at a time. Also, you would want the ability to tune in fine increments
so that the CW tone is continuously variable and you are able to get
the same audio frequency with each CW station.

Since you mention that you are in the US, you don't need to pass a
code test to become an amateur operator. But it is a good idea to
learn CW anyway since you are interested. You would want to listen to
the 40 meter band just above 7MHz. This is where the novices used to
practice and you should hear a few people after sunset sending CW at
slower speeds in this area. Put your receiver in SSB (LSB mode to
listen to CW). Tune away. Good luck!

LW beacons are good to practice on too. A beacon station transmits a
steady tone interrupted by a CW ID.

Jim

Somebody Somewhere wrote:
On May 28, 11:32 am, wrote:
I'm still studying for my ham license and still learning CW. I
enjoyed the Grove website and am looking for a moderate priced
($100-200) receiver for tuning in CW signals. I see many trick radios
in that price range. Some with weather channels, which would be nice,
some with MW/LF besides SW. Also, many claim SSB. A question. Does
shortwave pull in CW. Seems to me it does. I recall a old tube SW
radio I played around with as a kid. Madly studying my band maps. I
would like to pull in some CW signals to help learn.

Also, I need a radio that's pretty sensitive. I'm waaaay out in the
boonies, the CO Rockies at 8K ft. No problem putting up some sorta
rudimentary outside antenna (dipole, etc). Any help appreciated while
I'm still learning all this new stuff.

nb

If you're a beginner, listening to longwave beacons might help you
learn CW.

Good point. There's also W1AW on 3.581 MHz. This is surrounded by
BPSK31, so you'll need a real CW filter to resolve it.

You might want to check out Ham Radio Outlet stores.
http://www.hamradio.com
cuhulin