HD Radio: Eduardo contradicts himself - LMFAO!
 

On Aug 6, 10:52*am, DigitalRadioScams
wrote:
From Radio-Info:
July 2005

"There are two ways of looking at this. 43% of LA listening time is at
home, 33% in car, 23% at work and 3% elsewhere. 72% listen at some
time in each week at home, 85% in the car, 26% at work and 14%
elswhere. The difference is that in car listening is for shorter
periods than in home or at work, but more people do it. 45% of LA
listeners cume radio at night."

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/ind...e;topic=5997.0

Then, today:

"The average listener does 70% of their listening in a fixed location,
where there are no dropouts anyway."

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/ind....msg1497481#ms....

- No dropouts at home, Eduardo? LMFAO!
- A tactic admission that mobile HD Radio
- simply doesn't work - LMFAO!

HEY - Mobile IBOC [HD] Radio does work Great
.. . . as long as you stay parked in the Driveway.

Actually HD Radio Receivers have the same
disadvantages and Advantages as the good
old Analog AM/FM Radios.
* Most of the Home Radios are poorly designed
and cheaply built and lack real RF performance.
* While most of the Auto Radios are better designed
and better built and have good RF performance wrt
those intended for the Home.
* Plus the Auto Radios are 'matched' to an Antenna
system that works very well in the mobile environment
that the Radio exists in.

IBOC is a Two [Dual] Signal System Analog and Digital
-if- the Digital Drops-Out the Analog is still there.
-if- the Digital Drops-Out the Analog is weak and/or hash
Digital is not the issue -cause- you are in a signal dead
zone or beyond the stations signal.

HOME - IBOC [HD] Radios can have their Digital
over Analog 'sense' point set at a higher level;
because they are in a fixed location; with Digtal
being the preferred mode.

AUTO - IBOC [HD] Radios can have their Analog
over Digital 'sense' point set at a lower level; because
they are in a mobile location; with Analog being the
preferred mode.

Actually having a Preferred 'Mode' Switch built into
the IBOC [HD] Radio makes sense especially for
Auto Radios. Call the Preferred 'Mode' Switch what
you will :
* Local [HD] / Distant AM/FM
* HD / Normal

For most Audio Consumers at Home : Music is the
preferred Content and they listen to FM Stereo; and
Digital "HD" Radio expands their Music Listening
Enjoyment.

For most Audio Consumers in Autos : Music is again
the preferred Content and they listen to FM Stereo; and
Digital "HD" Radio expands their Music Listening
Enjoyment.

Note KSL & KCBS* both 'simulcast' on FM now.
* News Weather and Traffic for People On The Go !

As IBOC [HD] Radio increases it's Digital Signal
Output from 1% up to 10%? the Drop-Outs will
lessen and the number of HD Audio Consumers will
expand greatly at least for the FM Radio Band;
where the majority of Audio Consumers are.

And once again IBOC [HD] Radio is very much like
good old Analog Radio It's FREE* to the Consumer.
* and the majority of the people like 'Free'; grew-up
on/with 'Free'; and think 'Free' is really good.

Last things that I read from the FCC {US GOV} and
NPR {CPB+US GOV} both were Positive about IBOC
[HD] Radio; at least for the FM Radio Band where
NPR with the Thousands of Public Non-Commercial
FM Radio Stations; together are looking to expand
both their Content and Services via IBOC using HD-1
and HD-2 Channels on the FM HD-Radio.

NOTE - I recently bought an Insignia® FM HD-Radio
'portable' Player Model NS-HD01 as a waking around
Pocket FM Radio. Even up here in Twain Harte, CA
{The Land of the Blinking Blue Light -aka- Drop-Outs}
it preforms well and gives good reception and quality
sound from Central Valley FM HD-Radio Stations that
are 45~75 Air Miles away.

The Future of FM Radio is IBOC
-and-
The Future of IBOC is FM Radio
-while-
AM/MW Radio is simply a non-player ~ RHF

HD Radio: Eduardo contradicts himself - LMFAO!
 

"David Kaye" wrote in message
...
RHF wrote:


- He's a pretty consistant pompous, dismissive ass...

(1) And what national VP position do you hold with a broadcaster? (2) How
many radio stations have you put on the air? (3) How many languages do
you
speak? (4) How many ratings battles have you won?

While David Eduardo doesn't need any defending by me, I can't resist the
opportunity to rag on you yokels who haven't done a damned thing in the
business and yet pontificate on subjects you know nothing about.


While I may not have some of the expertise he claims to have, I am an
engineer, and have worked for many years in radio. I speak two languages and
working on a third, not that that matters to the converasation.

That being said, I need no radio expertise at all to know a pompous,
dismissive, ass when I see one. He cares about ratings, which are made of
whole cloth and based upon a model that is non-sequitur in the real world.
We've all seen what the true meaning of polls is during the past four
election cycles. There's just no way you can legitimately, despite what some
would have you believe, base the opinions of 1,000,000 people on the dubious
reporting of a few hundred or so.

The industry, and he in particular, choose to dismiss the opinions, tastes,
and needs of a significant segment of the population (and getting MORE
significant over the next 20 years or so) with the totally inapt reasoning
that they "don't contribute significantly to sales figures" and "are not
swayed to try new products", both of which are patently and demonstrably
untrue, if you actually LISTEN to your public rather than to allow yourself
to be lead around like an animal at a petting zoo.

FWIW, I have a good friend that has known David for many years, and who
agrees 100% with my opinions of him. This person has never owned any
stations, nor won any major awards, either. But he has been in radio for
over 40 years in various positions.

HD Radio: Eduardo contradicts himself - LMFAO!
 

On 6 Aug, 17:36, (David Kaye) wrote:
DigitalRadioScams wrote:
No dropouts at home, Eduardo? LMFAO! A tactic admission that mobile HD
Radio simply doesn't work - LMFAO!

Given that David works with these numbers for a living as the national
programming director of a nationwide station operator, I'd say that he
probably has a reason to say the things he does about ratings. *Perhaps it's a
misunderstanding somewhere.

Given that Eduardo is a huge IBOC-shill and liar, who twists numbers
in support of this huge HD debacle. And. given that Univision is an
investor in iNiquity.

HD Radio: Eduardo contradicts himself - LMFAO!
 

On 6 Aug, 18:25, "Drewdove" wrote:
"DigitalRadioScams" wrote in message

...



From Radio-Info:
July 2005

"There are two ways of looking at this. 43% of LA listening time is at
home, 33% in car, 23% at work and 3% elsewhere. 72% listen at some
time in each week at home, 85% in the car, 26% at work and 14%
elswhere. The difference is that in car listening is for shorter
periods than in home or at work, but more people do it. 45% of LA
listeners cume radio at night."

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/ind...e;topic=5997.0

Then, today:

"The average listener does 70% of their listening in a fixed location,
where there are no dropouts anyway."

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/ind....msg1497481#ms...



No dropouts at home, Eduardo? LMFAO! A tactic admission that mobile HD
Radio simply doesn't work - LMFAO!

I must be one of the odd ones in SoCal as I rarely listen to radio while at
home or work but never drive with the radio off. With me it's start car and
turn on the radio (if I turned it off, which I rarely do). So I probably do
99.44% of my listening in the car.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Who in Hell comes home and turns on their radio? Maybe, sit at their
computers and listen to Internet Radio. Yup, what a bitch, Eduardo,
most people listen while in the car to/from work, and those few enjoy
their nifty HD Radio dropouts and cludgy tuners - LOL!

HD Radio: Eduardo contradicts himself - LMFAO!
 

On 6 Aug, 18:57, RHF wrote:
On Aug 6, 10:52*am, DigitalRadioScams
wrote:



From Radio-Info:
July 2005

"There are two ways of looking at this. 43% of LA listening time is at
home, 33% in car, 23% at work and 3% elsewhere. 72% listen at some
time in each week at home, 85% in the car, 26% at work and 14%
elswhere. The difference is that in car listening is for shorter
periods than in home or at work, but more people do it. 45% of LA
listeners cume radio at night."

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/ind...e;topic=5997.0

Then, today:

"The average listener does 70% of their listening in a fixed location,
where there are no dropouts anyway."

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/ind....msg1497481#ms....

- No dropouts at home, Eduardo? LMFAO!
- A tactic admission that mobile HD Radio
- simply doesn't work - LMFAO!

HEY - Mobile IBOC [HD] Radio does work Great
. . . as long as you stay parked in the Driveway.

Actually HD Radio Receivers have the same
disadvantages and Advantages as the good
old Analog AM/FM Radios.
* Most of the Home Radios are poorly designed
and cheaply built and lack real RF performance.
* While most of the Auto Radios are better designed
and better built and have good RF performance wrt
those intended for the Home.
* Plus the Auto Radios are 'matched' to an Antenna
system that works very well in the mobile environment
that the Radio exists in.

IBOC is a Two [Dual] Signal System Analog and Digital
-if- the Digital Drops-Out the Analog is still there.
-if- the Digital Drops-Out the Analog is weak and/or hash
Digital is not the issue -cause- you are in a signal dead
zone or beyond the stations signal.

HOME - IBOC [HD] Radios can have their Digital
over Analog 'sense' point set at a higher level;
because they are in a fixed location; with Digtal
being the preferred mode.

AUTO - IBOC [HD] Radios can have their Analog
over Digital 'sense' point set at a lower level; because
they are in a mobile location; with Analog being the
preferred mode.

Actually having a Preferred 'Mode' Switch built into
the IBOC [HD] Radio makes sense especially for
Auto Radios. *Call the Preferred 'Mode' Switch what
you will :
* Local [HD] / Distant AM/FM
* HD / Normal

For most Audio Consumers at Home : Music is the
preferred Content and they listen to FM Stereo; and
Digital "HD" Radio expands their Music Listening
Enjoyment.

For most Audio Consumers in Autos : Music is again
the preferred Content and they listen to FM Stereo; and
Digital "HD" Radio expands their Music Listening
Enjoyment.

Note KSL & KCBS* both 'simulcast' on FM now.
* News Weather and Traffic for People On The Go !

As IBOC [HD] Radio increases it's Digital Signal
Output from 1% up to 10%? the Drop-Outs will
lessen and the number of HD Audio Consumers will
expand greatly at least for the FM Radio Band;
where the majority of Audio Consumers are.

And once again IBOC [HD] Radio is very much like
good old Analog Radio It's FREE* to the Consumer.
* and the majority of the people like 'Free'; grew-up
on/with 'Free'; and think 'Free' is really good.

Last things that I read from the FCC {US GOV} and
NPR {CPB+US GOV} both were Positive about IBOC
[HD] Radio; at least for the FM Radio Band where
NPR with the Thousands of Public Non-Commercial
FM Radio Stations; together are looking to expand
both their Content and Services via IBOC using HD-1
and HD-2 Channels on the FM HD-Radio.

NOTE - I recently bought an Insignia® FM HD-Radio
'portable' Player Model NS-HD01 as a waking around
Pocket FM Radio. *Even up here in Twain Harte, CA
{The Land of the Blinking Blue Light -aka- Drop-Outs}
it preforms well and gives good reception and quality
sound from Central Valley FM HD-Radio Stations that
are 45~75 Air Miles away.

The Future of FM Radio is IBOC
-and-
The Future of IBOC is FM Radio
-while-
AM/MW Radio is simply a non-player ~ RHF
*.
*.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I heard that those lucky few that bought the Insignia portables, that
as soon as they start walking their HDs drop out - LOL! BTW -
Sangewan cancelled their new portable HD Radio - yea!

HD Radio: Eduardo contradicts himself - LMFAO!
 

On Aug 6, 8:27*pm, DigitalRadioScams
wrote:
On 6 Aug, 17:36, (David Kaye) wrote:

DigitalRadioScams wrote:
No dropouts at home, Eduardo? LMFAO! A tactic admission that mobile HD
Radio simply doesn't work - LMFAO!

Given that David works with these numbers for a living as the national
programming director of a nationwide station operator, I'd say that he
probably has a reason to say the things he does about ratings. *Perhaps it's a
misunderstanding somewhere.

Given that Eduardo is a huge IBOC-shill and liar, who twists numbers
in support of this huge HD debacle. And. given that Univision is an
investor in iNiquity.

This hits the nail on the head. No one accused Eduardo of being
stupid, but he has his own agenda and he will distort the truth
accordingly. He's a bit like Univision's own version of the Iraqi
Information Minister under Saddam. Remember him?

HD Radio: Eduardo contradicts himself - LMFAO!
 

On 6 Aug, 20:36, Steve wrote:
On Aug 6, 8:27*pm, DigitalRadioScams
wrote:

On 6 Aug, 17:36, (David Kaye) wrote:

DigitalRadioScams wrote:
No dropouts at home, Eduardo? LMFAO! A tactic admission that mobile HD
Radio simply doesn't work - LMFAO!

Given that David works with these numbers for a living as the national
programming director of a nationwide station operator, I'd say that he
probably has a reason to say the things he does about ratings. *Perhaps it's a
misunderstanding somewhere.

Given that Eduardo is a huge IBOC-shill and liar, who twists numbers
in support of this huge HD debacle. And. given that Univision is an
investor in iNiquity.

This hits the nail on the head. No one accused Eduardo of being
stupid, but he has his own agenda and he will distort the truth
accordingly. He's a bit like Univision's own version of the Iraqi
Information Minister under Saddam. Remember him?

He's a bit like Univision's own version of the Iraqi
Information Minister under Saddam. Remember him?

Oh, yea - I remember how entertaining he was - LOL!

HD Radio: Eduardo contradicts himself - LMFAO!
 

"Brenda Ann" wrote:

While I may not have some of the expertise he claims to have, [....]

It's not a matter of "claims." He's known in the industry and he has a
website detailing all his accomplishments over the years, complete with photos
and other documents.


He cares about ratings, which are made of
whole cloth and based upon a model that is non-sequitur in the real world.

Huh? Without ratings it's very hard to make income. Sure, it's possible to
sell time on stations with no ratings, but it's extremely difficult. Stations
such as KEST and KPIG(AM) do it, but they have a tough go of it. KPIG(AM) is
advertising for salespeople every couple months because it's so hard to keep
salespeople who can't make any money selling time.

Regardless of whether you think the ratings system is flawed or not, the PPMs
and the diaries of Arbitron are fairly close for the most part, and the
differences between Neilsen and Arbitron ratings aren't much different,
either. Thus, I'd be inclined to think the ratings systems aren't as flawed
as people contend they are.


We've all seen what the true meaning of polls is during the past four
election cycles. There's just no way you can legitimately, despite what some
would have you believe, base the opinions of 1,000,000 people on the dubious
reporting of a few hundred or so.

None of this matters in radio and TV ratings. The ratings come in and the
stations sell based on those ratings. The advertisers buy based on the
assumption that they are correct. If they're so far off as to be bogus, the
advertisers would have left long ago and the ratings systems would have been
thrown out. Companies do not spend money capriciously, especially they're
trying to bring in business.

HD Radio: Eduardo contradicts himself - LMFAO!
 

DigitalRadioScams wrote:

Given that Eduardo is a huge IBOC-shill and liar, who twists numbers
in support of this huge HD debacle. And. given that Univision is an
investor in iNiquity.

I haven't followed his opinions on IBOC. When I see IBOC my eyes glaze over.
Until recently I had the term "IBOC" killfiled, so if this were 2 weeks ago I
wouldn't have seen your post at all.

Being that he is a company executive if he's in favor of IBOC he could be
boosting it as a matter of following company policy. That's what executives
must do sometimes in order to keep their jobs.

Sure, if that's the case we can call him a shill or say that he's a liar, but
if you had such a position with a major broadcaster I doubt you'd act any
differently. I once wrote ad copy saying that Cadillac was an "economy car".
Why? I wanted to keep my job.

HD Radio: Eduardo contradicts himself - LMFAO!
 

Steve wrote:

This hits the nail on the head. No one accused Eduardo of being
stupid, but he has his own agenda and he will distort the truth
accordingly. He's a bit like Univision's own version of the Iraqi
Information Minister under Saddam. Remember him?

Okay, let's say your company spent oddles of dollars on a failed technology.
You've had success and your company likes you, but then you also realize
that you're age 61, in a job that normally goes to people 20 to 30 years
younger than you. If you lose this job you'll likely stay in radio, given
your track record, but not in a position paying as well or with as much
prestige as what you have right now.

Do you tow the company line or do you speak out and jeopardize your job? For
those who have a knee-jerk reaction of "tell the truth", all I can say is that
you've never had to face such a question or you wouldn't be so quick on the
draw.