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On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 15:38:45 +0000 (UTC)
J G Miller wrote:
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 05:26:37 +0000, David Kaye wrote:

I'd normally agree, except that I've heard the state of commercial
talkradio in America and it's sad. It's made up of uninformed callers
pontificating just to hear themselves speak.

That is no different from most countries though. Ever had the sad
experience of listening to TalkSport in the UKofGB&NI?

Phone ins are not the same as talk radio. Its a subset of it. And if you
let anyone phone in then you'll get the uninformed and ignorant now and then.
OTOH you also get very smart people. Essentially phone ins are just a forum
for people to vent and I think thats a very good thing to have.

And quite a number of the commercial talkradio presenters in the USofA
and other countries merely pontificate whilst still being uninformed
about the matter on which they are talking.

Most of them are hired for their opinions and ability to talk for 2 hours
without drying up. Not on their particular expertease on a certain subjects.

B2003

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Y'all play nice now,,,, ya hear?
cuhulin

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RHF wrote:

Most people do like to hear themselves talk and
many/most others like to hear 'other' who talk
and sound like them {parroting} and giving a voice
to their views {self-affirmation}.

If that were the case then talkradio would be huge. It isn't. At his peak,
Rush Limbaugh had what, 20 million listeners? 30? According to Premier,
Limbaugh's syndicator, he gets 3.59 million listeners (2008). That's less
than 2% of the U.S. population. That's not much, and he's the biggest radio
talkshow host.

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J G Miller wrote:

Are you referring to the pirates of the 1960s and the introduction
of BBC Radio 1, or to more recent events?

I was referring to the 1960s when the BBC was stodgy and then realized they
had to serve listeners or lose them.

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On Monday, August 9th, 2010, at 19:31:17h +0000, David Kaye wrote:

I was referring to the 1960s when the BBC was stodgy and then realized
they had to serve listeners or lose them.

There was indeed a stodginess not just in the BBC but the whole establishment.

It was not the BBC who decided the services, but it had to be made for them
when the Wilson government gave the authorisation through the Postmaster
General that the BBC could start Radio 1 to compete against the pirates
and Radio Luxembourg, and subsequently local radio.

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John Higdon wrote:


News and information formats are among the most expensive to provide in
broadcasting. Unlike KQED, KKUP does not have access to unlimited funds.
Besides, what would all the old hippies who play wind chimes and whale
farts do?


In TV, yes. Radio, not. Marantz still makes a nifty recorder for about
$500. News interns are in abundant supply. DAWS are free for the taking.

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On Aug 9, 12:28*pm, (David Kaye) wrote:
RHF wrote:
Most people do like to hear themselves talk and
many/most others like to hear 'other' who talk
and sound like them {parroting} and giving a voice
to their views {self-affirmation}.

If that were the case then talkradio would be huge. *It isn't. *At his peak,
Rush Limbaugh had what, 20 million listeners? *30? *According to Premier,
Limbaugh's syndicator, he gets 3.59 million listeners (2008). *That's less
than 2% of the U.S. population. *That's not much, and he's the biggest radio
talkshow host. *

The wingnuts know deep down that their thinking is wrong, so they need
their lunacy reinforced by fellow ditto heads. If they wanted facts,
they would tune to NPR.

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Radio One (1),,, Dublin,Ireland.The One I sometimes listen, plus quite a
few others.
Radio Telefis Eireann.
Dear Dirty Dublin.

http://www.devilfinder.com
Ragland Road song

(MP3)
cuhulin

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On Aug 6, 10:52*am, DigitalRadioScams
wrote:
From Radio-Info:
July 2005

"There are two ways of looking at this. 43% of LA listening time is at
home, 33% in car, 23% at work and 3% elsewhere. 72% listen at some
time in each week at home, 85% in the car, 26% at work and 14%
elswhere. The difference is that in car listening is for shorter
periods than in home or at work, but more people do it. 45% of LA
listeners cume radio at night."

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/ind...e;topic=5997.0

Then, today:

"The average listener does 70% of their listening in a fixed location,
where there are no dropouts anyway."

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/ind....msg1497481#ms....

No dropouts at home, Eduardo? LMFAO! A tactic admission that mobile HD
Radio simply doesn't work - LMFAO!

There is nothing inconsitent there.

Today, compared to 2005, besides 5 years having passed, levels of
radio listening have changed due to the new and growing competitors
for entertainment, ranging from Pandora and the web to smart phones.
Still, the metrics of radio have not changed and the distribution of
listening locations is similar.

There are two principal metrics in radio ratings... cume and average
listening levels.

Cume is the total number of persons who listen for 15 minutes or more
a week to a station or combination of them, or to radio as a whole.
Radio as a whole reaches about 94% to 95% of people 6 years or older
each week. To put listening level (on which ad sales are mostly based)
in perspective, Arbitron analysis shows that over 90% of the average
station's listening time is contributed by 50% of its listeners
(cume). So half the people who listen to a station listen around 15 to
30 minutes a week, and are of no value to advertisers or the station.

Average listening, expressed as persons, share or rating (and all
meaning the same thing) is the number of people tuned in at any given
time. Average listening from 6 AM to midnight, Monday to Sunday, is
around 13% of all persons.

So, while 95% listen at some times during the week, about 12% to 13%
are, on average, listening at any precise moment.

About 30% of average listening is in the car. The rest is at home or
at work. While around 85% were found to listen at some time in the
car, listening spans in the car are shorter, so the total amount of
hours a week listened in the car is, as stated, around 30%... from a
low of around 24% in New York CIty to around 33% in LA.

As stated in my 2005 post, 70% of listening time is NOT in the car,
even if over 80% of people listen at some point each week in the car.

One is a head count, the other is the amount of time spent by each
person. A further explanation and 100% verification of this is on the
Arbitron website, in what is called the Purple Book or, technically,
the Description of Methodology..

Of course, the reason why you make these ignorant posts is that you
have no understanding of the way radio operates. So you spend your
time, as in this case, confusing terminology and looking like a fool.
Of course, that's better than your other passtime which is the posting
of profanity on a website that provides the only source for much of
the history of commercial radio available to the average person.

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On Aug 6, 11:02*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 8/6/10 12:52 , DigitalRadioScams wrote:





*From Radio-Info:
July 2005

"There are two ways of looking at this. 43% of LA listening time is at
home, 33% in car, 23% at work and 3% elsewhere. 72% listen at some
time in each week at home, 85% in the car, 26% at work and 14%
elswhere. The difference is that in car listening is for shorter
periods than in home or at work, but more people do it. 45% of LA
listeners cume radio at night."

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/ind...e;topic=5997.0

Then, today:

"The average listener does 70% of their listening in a fixed location,
where there are no dropouts anyway."

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/ind....msg1497481#ms....

No dropouts at home, Eduardo? LMFAO! A tactic admission that mobile HD
Radio simply doesn't work - LMFAO!

* *This is only ONE area where he contradicted himself.

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You are another person who, surprisingly, given your backround in
broadcasting, who does not know the difference between AQH listening
levels and cume audience.

It's easy to claim a foul if you don't know the rules of the game...
or even what game is being played.