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John Smith[_7_] June 4th 11 09:25 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
 
On 6/4/2011 12:13 PM, Brad Guth wrote:

...
Exactly, whereas everything is in orbit around something, or being
converted and/or reflected by something. Unless pi works out to an
even prime number, there's no such thing as a straight line.

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The fact that the universe is three-dimensional already makes it
possible to have an infinite number of straight lines, and in seemingly
infinite directions.

The fact that the ethers' smallest particles seems to make atoms
enormous, in comparison, would suggest a very fine detail can be
ascribed to these lines ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

John Smith[_7_] June 4th 11 09:33 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
 
On 6/4/2011 1:00 PM, HVAC wrote:

...
Oh... It's all clear now. It's not that you don't have the
ANSWERS, it's that we ask the wrong QUESTIONS.

Brilliant!
...


For a minute, I didn't know if I could find this:

"In 1895, Lorentz Eric Weisstein's World of Biography concluded that the
"null" result obtained by Michelson and Morley was caused by a effect of
contraction made by the ether on their apparatus and introduced the
length contraction equation

(see URL below for this text AND equation here)

where L is the contracted length, is the rest length, v is the velocity
of the frame of reference, and c is the speed of light. Although the
main interpretation of Lorentz Eric Weisstein's World of Biography for
this equation was rejected later, the equation is still correct and was
the first of a sequence of new equations developed by Poincaré, Eric
Weisstein's World of Biography Lorentz, Eric Weisstein's World of
Biography and others, resulting in a new branch of physics ultimately
brought to fruition by Albert Einstein Eric Weisstein's World of
Biography in special relativity. Einstein's idea of space-time
contraction replaced Lorentz's interpretation of the contraction
equation, and once and for all relegated ether to the history books."

"http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Michelson-MorleyExperiment.html

So, does that seem to be affirmative to your question?

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

george June 5th 11 12:01 AM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
On Jun 5, 9:19*am, HVAC wrote:
On 6/4/2011 5:02 PM, John Smith wrote:



Ya.... I missed that.


Actually, I can understand that, been there, done that ... worse ...


I have at least a half-a-dozen physics books on my shelves which miss it
to ... :-(


Wow! *You actually own a physics book?


Now all he has to do is open it...
A deed I suspect that is somewhat beyond him..
As for the reading and the comprehension .....................

BDK[_7_] June 5th 11 04:10 AM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
In article 7626f2bf-0a4b-4fd0-b67e-f2b2e98ff50d@
22g2000prx.googlegroups.com, says...

On Jun 4, 12:16*pm, BDK wrote:
In article 265fee09-eebe-493b-a782-418cb0118492@
22g2000prx.googlegroups.com, says...











On Jun 4, 1:42*am, HVAC wrote:
On 6/3/2011 7:52 PM, Brad Guth wrote:


Most of what seems like loose cannon or friendly fire is actually
intended to be lethal from the very get go.


These mainstream status-quo minions, parrots and brown-nosed clowns
have it in for anyone that doesn't follow their lead and worship each
and every word they have to say. *The last thing they want to allow is
any revision of history or science/physics interpretations other than
peer approved by those which they worship as gods. *So there's a wee
little problem with these FUD-masters whenever anything the least bit
different, new or improved comes along, and should by accident any
K12s show up, there's no way that this general K12 public is going to
be allowed to see or interpret things any other way than their
mainstream status-quo and/or closed mindset way.


Hitler as well as GW Bush needed that kind of blind loyalty, and for
the most part got it and then some.


William Mook has some capability of publishing the best available
truth(s) in K12 textbook format.


Guth: Do you honestly believe that ANYONE could read this and NOT
conclude that you are insane? *And by insane, I mean BAT**** insane.


--
"OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo


You're saying that yourself, Hagar, BDK and rabbi Saul Levy are every
bit as sane as GW Bush, Dick Cheney, Kissinger and Hitler?


Why are you lumping me in with 3 repubs and a Nazi Brad?



Are you suggesting our mutually perpetrated cold-war for profits and
public funded job security, with the USSR/Russia was sane?


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And there you go Brad, totally proving his point.

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BDK- Top of the government shill heap for over 10 years running!


Since when are you on our side?


OUR side? You mean the side of utter kooktardery? Well, I guess I
haven't ever been on that side, no.


You obviously think them dirty rotten Russians were always out to get
us. Got any proof other than defending themselves from Semites?


The Russians were fighting the "Semites"? Must be in a different history
book than I've been reading.


btw; you don't have to be republican to be a born-again Nazi.


I'm not a "born again" anything, Brad, Let alone a "Nazi". Most of the
people you accuse of being those things aren't either, but reality never
gets in the way of the Great Guthball's belief system, does it?

So how's the summer on Venus?


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BDK[_7_] June 5th 11 04:13 AM

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In article , says...

On 6/4/2011 1:51 PM, HVAC wrote:
On 6/4/2011 4:15 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 6/4/2011 1:03 PM, HVAC wrote:

...
Let me ask you a question...When was the last time you sucked a dick?

Be honest.
...

From your question, it is obvious that you think all share your habits,
that is all I see? Can you rephrase the question in a manner that would
apply to "us?"

What, the medication is now failing you, you are back to being unable to
maintain focus, and clarity of mind, to stay on subject?



I suppose the fact that Guth compared me to HITLER did
indeed cause me to ask him how much dick he sucks in an
average day.

My bad.


Perhaps, the reference/comparison to hitler was an exaggeration ... do
you think he may have known that? Anyway, I did catch that ...


You haven't caught anything in years, if ever, unless it's on a
kookpage. That's why you're so amusing.

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BDK[_7_] June 5th 11 04:14 AM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
In article , says...

On 6/4/2011 5:02 PM, John Smith wrote:



Ya.... I missed that.


Actually, I can understand that, been there, done that ... worse ...

I have at least a half-a-dozen physics books on my shelves which miss it
to ... :-(



Wow! You actually own a physics book?


He probably stole them from the reading rooms at the various
"institutes" he's lived at over the years.

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[email protected] June 5th 11 04:25 AM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
On Jun 4, 11:14*pm, BDK wrote:
In article , says...



On 6/4/2011 5:02 PM, John Smith wrote:


Ya.... I missed that.


Actually, I can understand that, been there, done that ... worse ...


I have at least a half-a-dozen physics books on my shelves which miss it
to ... :-(


Wow! *You actually own a physics book?


He probably stole them from the reading rooms at the various
"institutes" he's lived at over the years.

--
BDK- Top of the government shill heap for over 10 years running!


That settles it. . . Once and for all . Them tight white jackets
aren't very comfortable , just how much lithium do those fellas take
on a daily basis ? ?

Olrik June 5th 11 05:30 AM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
 
On 2011-06-04 17:22, John Smith wrote:
On 6/4/2011 2:19 PM, HVAC wrote:
On 6/4/2011 5:02 PM, John Smith wrote:



Ya.... I missed that.

Actually, I can understand that, been there, done that ... worse ...

I have at least a half-a-dozen physics books on my shelves which miss it
to ... :-(



Wow! You actually own a physics book?


Yes, but it is there that any similarity between you and I ends ...

You see, I actually read/understand them.


What are the titles/authors of your books? And how do they describe the
propagation of EM waves in a vacuum?


John Smith[_7_] June 5th 11 05:43 AM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
 
On 6/4/2011 8:13 PM, BDK wrote:
In , says...

On 6/4/2011 1:51 PM, HVAC wrote:
On 6/4/2011 4:15 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 6/4/2011 1:03 PM, HVAC wrote:

...
Let me ask you a question...When was the last time you sucked a dick?

Be honest.
...

From your question, it is obvious that you think all share your habits,
that is all I see? Can you rephrase the question in a manner that would
apply to "us?"

What, the medication is now failing you, you are back to being unable to
maintain focus, and clarity of mind, to stay on subject?


I suppose the fact that Guth compared me to HITLER did
indeed cause me to ask him how much dick he sucks in an
average day.

My bad.


Perhaps, the reference/comparison to hitler was an exaggeration ... do
you think he may have known that? Anyway, I did catch that ...


You haven't caught anything in years, if ever, unless it's on a
kookpage. That's why you're so amusing.


Well, in a way, you are kinda right ...

For a minute I thought we caught a fish!

Then, I realized you just smell like one, and have a family resemblance
to a white cod!

Regards,
JS

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

John Smith[_7_] June 5th 11 05:55 AM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
 
On 6/4/2011 9:30 PM, Olrik wrote:

...
Yes, but it is there that any similarity between you and I ends ...

You see, I actually read/understand them.


What are the titles/authors of your books? And how do they describe the
propagation of EM waves in a vacuum?


Well, I would not even expect anything worthwhile from an exchange with
you, you have already proven that ... your constant moves to move the
subject off topic and then to baffle us with your bull****, while off on
some tangent, is a prime example of this, and I have already pointed out.

I think most would point to John D. Kraus, and James Clerk Maxwell.

However, neither of these men truly understood the nature of the ether,
since we simply don't know what it is, so obviously, they used "fudge
factors" to work their way around that ...

You however, should be back in college, somewhere, as you stand at this
point, these discussions are simply above you ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

John Smith[_7_] June 5th 11 05:57 AM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
 
On 6/4/2011 8:14 PM, BDK wrote:
In , says...

On 6/4/2011 5:02 PM, John Smith wrote:



Ya.... I missed that.

Actually, I can understand that, been there, done that ... worse ...

I have at least a half-a-dozen physics books on my shelves which miss it
to ... :-(



Wow! You actually own a physics book?


He probably stole them from the reading rooms at the various
"institutes" he's lived at over the years.


I can see how, with your past and your life experiences, that would seem
the most likely to you ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

John Smith[_7_] June 5th 11 05:58 AM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
 
On 6/4/2011 8:25 PM, wrote:

...
That settles it. . . Once and for all . Them tight white jackets
aren't very comfortable , just how much lithium do those fellas take
on a daily basis ? ?


Still off your meds and blaming everyone else, huh?

We told you, things will not improve for you until you listen to those
nice men in white coats you keep attempting to give the slip to.

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

John Smith[_7_] June 5th 11 06:07 AM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
 
On 6/4/2011 9:43 PM, John Smith wrote:

...
You haven't caught anything in years, if ever, unless it's on a
kookpage. That's why you're so amusing.


Well, in a way, you are kinda right ...

For a minute I thought we caught a fish!

Then, I realized you just smell like one, and have a family resemblance
to a white cod!

Regards,
JS


Well, on closer analysis of that resemblance, I notice it exists,
mainly, in the lips. If you trim your lips back to a reasonable size
that would be reduced -- no idea what you can do about your odor ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

[email protected] June 5th 11 06:43 AM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
On Jun 5, 12:58*am, John Smith wrote:
On 6/4/2011 8:25 PM, wrote:

...
That settles it. . . Once and for all . Them tight white jackets
aren't very comfortable , just how much lithium do those fellas take
on a daily basis ? ?


Still off your meds and blaming everyone else, huh?

We told you, things will not improve for you until you listen to those
nice men in white coats you keep attempting to give the slip to.

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry


Oh, boy ! It seems that I just hit the right button . In my line of
work I did have to go some really serious wards/places . Rule number
one : can't bring any sharp tools (like screwdrivers and chisels) Rule
number two : if you do have to use them - can't put them down (even
for a second!) and can't have it in a tool -pouch or the back
pocket . Rule number three : always WATCH your back . . . From wahat
I was told ,some of the slammers are even worse -- many of the people
behind bars are insane . BTW, are you the one that keeps a gun under
the pillow ?

John Smith[_7_] June 5th 11 06:48 AM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
 
On 6/4/2011 10:43 PM, wrote:
On Jun 5, 12:58 am, John wrote:
On 6/4/2011 8:25 PM, wrote:

...
That settles it. . . Once and for all . Them tight white jackets
aren't very comfortable , just how much lithium do those fellas take
on a daily basis ? ?


Still off your meds and blaming everyone else, huh?

We told you, things will not improve for you until you listen to those
nice men in white coats you keep attempting to give the slip to.

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry


Oh, boy ! It seems that I just hit the right button .


Absolutely! It is quite common for those suffering the effects of
mental illness to realize that "something is not in order."

It is also quite common for them to blame others and misinterpret what
is happening to them to be caused by others actions ...


In my line of

work I did have to go some really serious wards/places . Rule number
one : can't bring any sharp tools (like screwdrivers and chisels) Rule
number two : if you do have to use them - can't put them down (even
for a second!) and can't have it in a tool -pouch or the back
pocket . Rule number three : always WATCH your back . . . From wahat
I was told ,some of the slammers are even worse -- many of the people
behind bars are insane .


Is that what they tell you, that you are/were working there? But then,
you are beginning to figure out the truth after all this time, right?

BTW, are you the one that keeps a gun under
the pillow ?


Absolutely!

It will be too late to get the gun and ammo out of a locked box if I
should awake during the night and you are standing at my wife and I bed!

Remember boy scouts, "BE PREPARED!"

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

JeffRelf.F-M.FM June 5th 11 06:57 AM

​ We love to ponder "God" ( i.e. Mother Nature ) and the "aether" ( field ).
 
PRE
" The aether, like god, can be treated as if it doesn't exist. ",
says H•Vac... yet we love to ponder "God" ( i.e. Mother Nature )
and the "aether" ( field ).

Consider the humble rock... there's no end to its field.

All the same, exergy ( fuel ) is a precious resource;
once spent, it never returns.

[email protected] June 5th 11 07:39 AM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
On Jun 5, 1:48*am, John Smith wrote:
On 6/4/2011 10:43 PM, wrote:





On Jun 5, 12:58 am, John *wrote:
On 6/4/2011 8:25 PM, wrote:


...
That settles it. . . Once and for all . Them tight white jackets
aren't very comfortable , just how much lithium do those fellas take
on a daily basis ? ?


Still off your meds and blaming everyone else, huh?


We told you, things will not improve for you until you listen to those
nice men in white coats you keep attempting to give the slip to.


--


Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry


Oh, boy ! *It seems that I just hit the right button .


Absolutely! *It is quite common for those suffering the effects of
mental illness to realize that "something is not in order."

It is also quite common for them to blame others and misinterpret what
is happening to them to be caused by others actions ...

In my line of

work I did have to go some really serious wards/places . Rule number
one : can't bring any sharp tools (like screwdrivers and chisels) Rule
number two : if you do have to use them - can't put them down (even
for a second!) and can't have it in a tool -pouch or the back
pocket . *Rule number three : always WATCH your back . . . *From wahat
I was told ,some of the slammers are even worse -- many of the people
behind bars are insane .


Is that what they tell you, that you are/were working there? *But then,
you are beginning to figure out the truth after all this time, right?

BTW, are you the one that keeps a gun under

the pillow ?


Absolutely!

It will be too late to get the gun and ammo out of a locked box if I
should awake during the night and you are standing at my wife and I bed!

Remember boy scouts, "BE PREPARED!"

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I'm very sorry to hear about the gun/pillow setup . You must be living
in a horrible place . . .

John Smith[_7_] June 5th 11 07:47 AM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
 
On 6/4/2011 11:39 PM, wrote:

...
I'm very sorry to hear about the gun/pillow setup . You must be living
in a horrible place . . .


Sad, but America is in steep and rapid decline ... few, if any
countries, are a real solution to the existing problems here.

Revolving door prisons and institutions are only to get worse, as the
funds for even the existing ones disappear ...

How so many seem to have a strong ability to discard what their eyes are
telling them and replace it with the lies of main scream media and a
blind trust/hope that "things will get better" seems only another
symptom of what ails "horrible places."

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

Brad Guth June 5th 11 10:23 AM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
On Jun 4, 11:47*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 6/4/2011 11:39 PM, wrote:

...
I'm very sorry to hear about the gun/pillow setup . You must be living
in a horrible place . . .


Sad, but America is in steep and rapid decline ... few, if any
countries, are a real solution to the existing problems here.

Revolving door prisons and institutions are only to get worse, as the
funds for even the existing ones disappear ...

How so many seem to have a strong ability to discard what their eyes are
telling them and replace it with the lies of main scream media and a
blind trust/hope that "things will get better" seems only another
symptom of what ails "horrible places."

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry


There's so much wrong with this once great nation that it's hard to
evem imagine where to start.

Rogue private agencies like our Federal Reserve and Qinetiq are
essentially running the show regardless of who is in office.

They have been so ****ed at me that they keep the pressure on, as to
topic/author stalking in order to disqualify and/or banish everything
I have to say. They even revised or having allowed others to revise
how the internet search systematically stacks the cards against myself
and others they deem as mission critical. I'm certain William Mook
and his Mokenergy are on their NO FLY list, as will yourself become
another target of their need to control this mainstream media that we
still have some limited access to via Google Groups and their Usenet/
newsgroups.

If something really bad is about to happen, you can bet that our
access to Google Groups and Usenet/newsgroups well be terminated.

Around here in Usenet/newsgroups and Google Groups, investigating into
matters of physics, science and history as for interpreting and
telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth, only gets you into
big trouble with those that would much rather the likes of you and
myself never existed, and to a great extent it's the Semites (aka
pretend-Atheists) that are in charge of keeping whatever you or I have
to say as disqualified an inaccessible as possible.

Other than that, at least Hitler would be proud of what those in
charge have managed to get away with thus far.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/
http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

HVAC June 5th 11 10:36 AM

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On 6/4/2011 5:22 PM, John Smith wrote:


I have at least a half-a-dozen physics books on my shelves which miss it
to ... :-(



Wow! You actually own a physics book?


Yes, but it is there that any similarity between you and I ends ...

You see, I actually read/understand them.



Velikovsky's 'World In Collision', really isn't a physics book...Is it?







--
"OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

Brad Guth June 5th 11 10:56 AM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
On Jun 4, 11:47*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 6/4/2011 11:39 PM, wrote:

...
I'm very sorry to hear about the gun/pillow setup . You must be living
in a horrible place . . .


Sad, but America is in steep and rapid decline ... few, if any
countries, are a real solution to the existing problems here.

Revolving door prisons and institutions are only to get worse, as the
funds for even the existing ones disappear ...

How so many seem to have a strong ability to discard what their eyes are
telling them and replace it with the lies of main scream media and a
blind trust/hope that "things will get better" seems only another
symptom of what ails "horrible places."

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry


There's simply so much wrong with this once great nation that it's
hard to even imagine where to start. Our "no child left behind"
policy has as much to do with indoctrination and brainwashing as it
does with general education skills.

JFK, RFK and a few others were right, whereas rogue private agencies
like our Federal Reserve and Qinetiq (CIA/MI6) are essentially running
the show regardless of who is in office. Their Skull and Bones has
never had it so good.

They have been so ****ed at me that they keep the pressure on, as to
topic/author stalking in order to disqualify and/or banish everything
I have to say. They even revised or having allowed others to revise
how the internet search systematically stacks the cards against myself
and others they deem as mission critical. I'm certain William Mook
and his Mokenergy are on their NO FLY list, as will yourself become
another target of their need to control this public mainstream media
that we still have some limited access to via Google Groups and their
Usenet/newsgroups that’s global accessible (except not accessible by a
great many intranets and most other nations that systematically block/
filter out such unmoderated publishing).

If something really bad is about to happen, you can bet that our
access to Google Groups and Usenet/newsgroups well be terminated, as
well as any number of our archived topics and replies could be
replaced and/or removed, at the very least blocked/filtered out of
what our K12s and media get to see (mainstream media is currently
forbidden to use any investigative reporting as based upon whatever we
post). Around here in Usenet/newsgroups and Google Groups,
investigating into matters of physics, science and history as for
interpreting and telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth,
only gets you into big trouble with those that would much rather the
likes of you and myself never existed, and to a great extent it's the
Semites (aka pretend-Atheists) that are in charge of keeping whatever
you or I have to say as disqualified and inaccessible as possible.

99.9% of Americans don’t even know that Google Groups or this version
of their Usenet/newsgroups even exist, as I’ve seen many other
computers that do not even allow access unless you know exactly how to
manually force their ability to access. Google and MSN each have the
ability to deliver a custom page to each and every connected computer,
so there no telling what others get to read, and more importantly
there’s no telling what is excluded from their version of Google
Groups or Usenet/newsgroups.

Other than that, at least Hitler would be proud of what those in
charge have managed to get away with thus far.

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Brad Guth June 5th 11 11:31 AM

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On Jun 4, 11:39*pm, wrote:
On Jun 5, 1:48*am, John Smith wrote:









On 6/4/2011 10:43 PM, wrote:


On Jun 5, 12:58 am, John *wrote:
On 6/4/2011 8:25 PM, wrote:


...
That settles it. . . Once and for all . Them tight white jackets
aren't very comfortable , just how much lithium do those fellas take
on a daily basis ? ?


Still off your meds and blaming everyone else, huh?


We told you, things will not improve for you until you listen to those
nice men in white coats you keep attempting to give the slip to.


--


Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry


Oh, boy ! *It seems that I just hit the right button .


Absolutely! *It is quite common for those suffering the effects of
mental illness to realize that "something is not in order."


It is also quite common for them to blame others and misinterpret what
is happening to them to be caused by others actions ...


In my line of
work I did have to go some really serious wards/places . Rule number
one : can't bring any sharp tools (like screwdrivers and chisels) Rule
number two : if you do have to use them - can't put them down (even
for a second!) and can't have it in a tool -pouch or the back
pocket . *Rule number three : always WATCH your back . . . *From wahat
I was told ,some of the slammers are even worse -- many of the people
behind bars are insane .


Is that what they tell you, that you are/were working there? *But then,
you are beginning to figure out the truth after all this time, right?


BTW, are you the one that keeps a gun under


the pillow ?


Absolutely!


It will be too late to get the gun and ammo out of a locked box if I
should awake during the night and you are standing at my wife and I bed!


Remember boy scouts, "BE PREPARED!"


--


Regards,
JS
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the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
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I'm very sorry to hear about the gun/pillow setup . You must be living
in a horrible place . . .


South Lake Union area in Seattle is an annual 50/50 crap-shoot, as to
property damage or losing property, or simply being seriously accosted
by those that want to take stuff from you.

It seems the Seattle police are too busy shooting unarmed and very
small and kinda old as well as half deaf native wood carvers, as to
bother with actual community policing. Of course in Arizona they use
their well armed SWAT to accomplish community raids and proceed to
execute anyone that has a family and a regular job with absolutely no
public or military record of ever screwing up or being involved with
any bad-guys, other than having served two terms in Iraq for us.

Sure thing, everything about your GOP/ZNR redneck kind of nation is
just perfectly fine and dandy.

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John Smith[_7_] June 5th 11 03:46 PM

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On 6/5/2011 2:36 AM, HVAC wrote:
On 6/4/2011 5:22 PM, John Smith wrote:


I have at least a half-a-dozen physics books on my shelves which
miss it
to ... :-(


Wow! You actually own a physics book?


Yes, but it is there that any similarity between you and I ends ...

You see, I actually read/understand them.



Velikovsky's 'World In Collision', really isn't a physics book...Is it?


Now it's time for much better questions, such as, "Why do you think
anyone would want to bother with petty, small mind slugs, such as yourself?"

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

Brad Guth June 5th 11 04:52 PM

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On Jun 5, 7:46*am, John Smith wrote:
On 6/5/2011 2:36 AM, HVAC wrote:









On 6/4/2011 5:22 PM, John Smith wrote:


I have at least a half-a-dozen physics books on my shelves which
miss it
to ... :-(


Wow! You actually own a physics book?


Yes, but it is there that any similarity between you and I ends ...


You see, I actually read/understand them.


Velikovsky's 'World In Collision', really isn't a physics book...Is it?


Now it's time for much better questions, such as, "Why do you think
anyone would want to bother with petty, small mind slugs, such as yourself?"

--

Regards,
JS
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the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry


Problem is, HVAC is only impressed with physics popup books that talk
to you and make funny noises at the same time. The best is always the
scratch and sniff parts of his physics books, especially the physics
of flatulence and sperm.

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John Smith[_7_] June 5th 11 05:15 PM

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On 6/5/2011 8:52 AM, Brad Guth wrote:

...
Problem is, HVAC is only impressed with physics popup books that talk
to you and make funny noises at the same time. The best is always the
scratch and sniff parts of his physics books, especially the physics
of flatulence and sperm.

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He mentions a book which attempts to throw a "religious flavor" on hard
physics ... lots of wiggle room and controversy. Indicative of those
attempting to baffle with BS ... seems he lives for that sport.

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

Bob Casanova June 5th 11 05:38 PM

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On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 12:07:23 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth
:

On Jun 4, 11:40*am, Bob Casanova wrote:


On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 18:23:12 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John Smith :


snip

...we will never know how radio waves (or any other waves, for
that matter) transverse and are propagated by the ether though space.


EM radiation doesn't require a propagation medium.


What's the all-inclusive population or average photon density per
given km3 of ISM, or better to know that of the IGM? (I'm talking of
accounting for everything from at least EIR/ELF [1km] to those
extremely hard Gamma of .001 nm)


Damfino, but Google is Your Friend.

And what's the relevance?
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

Bob Casanova June 5th 11 05:39 PM

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On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 12:51:47 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John Smith :

The Michelson-Morley Experiment assumes their is a "physical flow" to
ether (or, that it even exists in a static but detectable state), that
this physical flow can be detected on waves, photons or other particles
-- I say, this is ALREADY FAR TOO MANY ASSUMPTIONS!


Good for you.
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

Bob Casanova June 5th 11 05:43 PM

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On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 12:34:15 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John Smith :

On 6/4/2011 11:39 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:


[JS said...]

What you are referring to IS ether, you simply name it space


Actually, that's what nearly every scientist names it;
"ether" was shown to be nonexistent (or to have zero effect
on anything measurable, which is the same thing) over a
century ago,


EINSTEIN SAID:
"Therefore, instead of speaking of an ether, one could equally well
speak of physical qualities of space. Now one could take the position
that all physical objects fall under this category, because in the final
analysis in a theory of fields the ponderable matter, or the elementary
particles that constitute matter, also have to be considered as ‘fields’
of a particular kind, or as particular ‘states’ of the space."

So, now, what is up? Is there a particular school which is mandatory
where you people come from?


Yeah; it's called "college". Maybe if you'd attended and
taken a few physics classes you'd know what your quote
meant. Einstein also said (regarding QM) "God doesn't play
dice"; do you imagine that means he believed in an actual
deity?
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

Bob Casanova June 5th 11 05:46 PM

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On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 12:54:18 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John Smith :

On 6/4/2011 11:40 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:


EM radiation doesn't require a propagation medium.


This argument can be dismissed immediately,


It's not an "argument"; it's an observation.

HTH.

light are EM radiation are
both governed by the same laws and physics, are are the same phenomenon,
of differing frequencies.


Yes. So? Do you imagine light can't propagate through a
vacuum?
--

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"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

John Smith[_7_] June 5th 11 05:58 PM

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On 6/5/2011 9:43 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:

...
Yeah; it's called "college". Maybe if you'd attended and
taken a few physics classes you'd know what your quote
meant. Einstein also said (regarding QM) "God doesn't play
dice"; do you imagine that means he believed in an actual
deity?


Yes, I have noticed you use the same "Baffle With Bull****" tactics as
the children you associate with ... your thinking being, "I'll take the
topic away from hard physics into religion. Then, using strawman
arguments, I will attempt to use a persons personal beliefs to attack
their credibility. Now, once succeeding in that, I will "transfer" the
fact I appear correct over to the hard science -- effectively winning
the argument in hard science with less than truthful arguments."

Gee, where have we seen that before?

God doesn't play dice, obviously the rules and laws over our portion of
the universe are very fixed and rigid ... although in some far flung
corner they may differ ... only God would know, at this time.

But, as to Einstein, we have watched quacks hunt and attempt to
interpret, expand, etc. his words to allow various "fudge factors" which
he never intended ... usually with attempts to move discussions into
religious areas and begin debate on such books as the bible ... most
always the sign of the unethical and immature.

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

John Smith[_7_] June 6th 11 12:18 AM

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On 6/5/2011 3:24 PM, BDK wrote:
In , says...

On 6/5/2011 12:21 PM,
wrote:

...
You see, I actually read/understand them.

Velikovsky's 'World In Collision', really isn't a physics book...Is it?

--
"OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

No, it is not a physics textbook . However -- some of Velikivsky's
ideas were found to be correct , several years after it's
publication . Real genius is seldom recognized during his/her
life . . .


Yeah, I can see that.

Akin to, "The real geniuses, here, won't be noticed during their lives ..."

Indeed, long after, gawd forbid, NEVER!

ROFLOL!


You never have to worry about that Johnny kOOk. People will still think
you're a raving whackjob years after you pass away, decades, centuries
later, if they read your posts, they will still see you for the kOOk
that you are.


I could almost believe that ... but, I wasn't tricked.

If you said it, it is obviously wrong.

Regards,
JS


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JS
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the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

Olrik June 6th 11 04:07 PM

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On 2011-06-05 00:55, John Smith wrote:
On 6/4/2011 9:30 PM, Olrik wrote:

...
Yes, but it is there that any similarity between you and I ends ...

You see, I actually read/understand them.


What are the titles/authors of your books? And how do they describe the
propagation of EM waves in a vacuum?


Well, I would not even expect anything worthwhile from an exchange with
you, you have already proven that ... your constant moves to move the
subject off topic and then to baffle us with your bull****, while off on
some tangent, is a prime example of this, and I have already pointed out.

I think most would point to John D. Kraus, and James Clerk Maxwell.

However, neither of these men truly understood the nature of the ether,
since we simply don't know what it is, so obviously, they used "fudge
factors" to work their way around that ...

You however, should be back in college,


Where they actually teach that EM waves do propagate in the vacuum of space.




John Smith[_7_] June 6th 11 04:38 PM

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On 6/6/2011 8:07 AM, Olrik wrote:

...
Where they actually teach that EM waves do propagate in the vacuum of
space.


Since both Kraus and Maxwell acknowledge an ether filling the vacuum, I
must be reading your text improperly, else you are writing nonsense?

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

John Smith[_7_] June 6th 11 04:51 PM

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On 6/6/2011 8:07 AM, Olrik wrote:

...
I think most would point to John D. Kraus, and James Clerk Maxwell.

However, neither of these men truly understood the nature of the ether,
since we simply don't know what it is, so obviously, they used "fudge
factors" to work their way around that ...

You however, should be back in college,


Where they actually teach that EM waves do propagate in the vacuum of
space.


Although they didn't understand the true nature of Einsteins' ether,
both Kraus and Maxwell acknowledge an ether filling the vacuum, I must
be reading your text improperly, else you are writing nonsense, again?

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

Olrik June 6th 11 05:07 PM

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On 2011-06-06 11:51, John Smith wrote:
On 6/6/2011 8:07 AM, Olrik wrote:

...
I think most would point to John D. Kraus, and James Clerk Maxwell.

However, neither of these men truly understood the nature of the ether,
since we simply don't know what it is, so obviously, they used "fudge
factors" to work their way around that ...

You however, should be back in college,


Where they actually teach that EM waves do propagate in the vacuum of
space.


Although they didn't understand the true nature of Einsteins' ether,
both Kraus and Maxwell acknowledge an ether filling the vacuum, I must
be reading your text improperly, else you are writing nonsense, again?


I call Loki.


Bob Casanova June 6th 11 05:48 PM

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On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 09:58:31 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John Smith :

On 6/5/2011 9:43 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:

...
Yeah; it's called "college". Maybe if you'd attended and
taken a few physics classes you'd know what your quote
meant. Einstein also said (regarding QM) "God doesn't play
dice"; do you imagine that means he believed in an actual
deity?


Yes, I have noticed you use the same "Baffle With Bull****" tactics as
the children you associate with ... your thinking being, "I'll take the
topic away from hard physics into religion. Then, using strawman
arguments, I will attempt to use a persons personal beliefs to attack
their credibility. Now, once succeeding in that, I will "transfer" the
fact I appear correct over to the hard science -- effectively winning
the argument in hard science with less than truthful arguments."

Gee, where have we seen that before?


Below, in your avoidance of the question.

God doesn't play dice, obviously the rules and laws over our portion of
the universe are very fixed and rigid ... although in some far flung
corner they may differ ... only God would know, at this time.

But, as to Einstein, we have watched quacks hunt and attempt to
interpret, expand, etc. his words to allow various "fudge factors" which
he never intended ... usually with attempts to move discussions into
religious areas and begin debate on such books as the bible ... most
always the sign of the unethical and immature.


Nice attempt to waffle (plus interesting snippage of the
context). Do you agree that Einstein wasn't referring to an
actual deity, or not? And do you agree that his use of the
term "ether" (which was the context you snipped) referred to
something other than the sort of physical "ether" refuted by
Michaelson and Morley, or not?
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

John Smith[_7_] June 6th 11 05:48 PM

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On 6/6/2011 9:07 AM, Olrik wrote:
On 2011-06-06 11:51, John Smith wrote:
On 6/6/2011 8:07 AM, Olrik wrote:

...
I think most would point to John D. Kraus, and James Clerk Maxwell.

However, neither of these men truly understood the nature of the ether,
since we simply don't know what it is, so obviously, they used "fudge
factors" to work their way around that ...

You however, should be back in college,

Where they actually teach that EM waves do propagate in the vacuum of
space.


Although they didn't understand the true nature of Einsteins' ether,
both Kraus and Maxwell acknowledge an ether filling the vacuum, I must
be reading your text improperly, else you are writing nonsense, again?


I call Loki.


You go ahead, you have our permission ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

Bob Casanova June 6th 11 05:53 PM

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On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 10:47:24 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John Smith :

On 6/5/2011 9:43 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:

...
Yeah; it's called "college". Maybe if you'd attended and
taken a few physics classes you'd know what your quote
meant. Einstein also said (regarding QM) "God doesn't play
dice"; do you imagine that means he believed in an actual
deity?


Your desire to constantly be in error is strong, young Skywalker ...


Three (al least) replies to a single out-of context quote;
must have struck a nerve.
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

John Smith[_7_] June 6th 11 05:59 PM

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On 6/6/2011 9:57 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:

...
Try re-reading the quotes you supplied; he did *not* believe
in any sort of personal deity.

Funny, all the real nuts usually appear to turn out atheists ...


And funny, all the morons who think they know what beliefs I
hold, since I never discuss them.

"He disagrees with my beliefs, therefore he's an atheist."


Your need to pick up most any comment/observation and point it directly
at yourself is very helpful in diagnosing your mental condition, thanks.

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

John Smith[_7_] June 6th 11 06:02 PM

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On 6/6/2011 9:48 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 09:58:31 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John :

On 6/5/2011 9:43 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:

...
Yeah; it's called "college". Maybe if you'd attended and
taken a few physics classes you'd know what your quote
meant. Einstein also said (regarding QM) "God doesn't play
dice"; do you imagine that means he believed in an actual
deity?


Yes, I have noticed you use the same "Baffle With Bull****" tactics as
the children you associate with ... your thinking being, "I'll take the
topic away from hard physics into religion. Then, using strawman
arguments, I will attempt to use a persons personal beliefs to attack
their credibility. Now, once succeeding in that, I will "transfer" the
fact I appear correct over to the hard science -- effectively winning
the argument in hard science with less than truthful arguments."

Gee, where have we seen that before?


Below, in your avoidance of the question.

God doesn't play dice, obviously the rules and laws over our portion of
the universe are very fixed and rigid ... although in some far flung
corner they may differ ... only God would know, at this time.

But, as to Einstein, we have watched quacks hunt and attempt to
interpret, expand, etc. his words to allow various "fudge factors" which
he never intended ... usually with attempts to move discussions into
religious areas and begin debate on such books as the bible ... most
always the sign of the unethical and immature.


Nice attempt to waffle (plus interesting snippage of the
context). Do you agree that Einstein wasn't referring to an
actual deity, or not? And do you agree that his use of the
term "ether" (which was the context you snipped) referred to
something other than the sort of physical "ether" refuted by
Michaelson and Morley, or not?


I think Einstein, absolutely, considered a unbelievably intelligent
creator a strong possibility! His very words define this ... but,
everyone should read them, his words, for themselves, as the notion of
"thinking for someone else" is hazardous, at best ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry


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