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JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 21:06:11 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth : On Jun 10, 5:39*pm, Government Shill #2 wrote: On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:24:05 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote: On Jun 10, 4:18*pm, Government Shill #2 wrote: On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:05:06 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote: On Jun 9, 8:17*pm, Government Shill #2 wrote: On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:55:54 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote: Most here are pretend-Atheists that only act/react exactly like Semites that never actually believed in any wrath of God anyway? I wish I could work out what this is meant to say! Shill #2 -- "Me fail English? That's unpossible!" Ralph Wiggum Pretenders that never police their own kind make good FUD-masters. ???????? What the...? Please... write... in... English. Englische bitte. Engelse asseblief. Ingles mangyaring. Anglais s'il vous plaît. Bahasa Inggris silahkan. Inglese per favore. Engelska vänligen. Are you a Muslim or in favor of some religion other than Semite/ Jewish? I believe Muslims and Jews are just as deluded as the Christians. There is no sky pixie. To Believe in any particular one is nuts. Don't bother to give us that usual crap that you go along with whatever any religion or faith-based cabal has to say. You mean the truth? No. It's obvious that you and truth parted company years ago. Tell us where does your income and/or benefits come from? My real income, or my shill one you fantasise about? My real income comes from an aeronautical engineering company. We fix planes. That's the truth, so you may now ignore it. Since you never think for yourself; *who are your peers? My peers, Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”, are sane people. That's FUD-master required of each and every ZNR redneck. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahaha! "That's FUD-master required of each and every ZNR redneck." Bwahahahahahahahahaa! What the **** is that *supposed* to mean? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Shill #2 -- The men who really believe in themselves are all in lunatic asylums. * - G. K. Chesterton I means a whole lot more than your reply. Don't tell me that you don't know what FUD stands for. I certainly don't. Nor "ZNR". Nor your use of the term "redneck", which doesn't seem to agree with normal usage. Hint: Words and acronyms you make up aren't automatically part of the general lexicon. -- Bob C. "Evidence confirming an observation is evidence that the observation is wrong." - McNameless |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 02:56:13 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth : On Jun 10, 9:09*pm, John Smith wrote: On 6/10/2011 9:04 PM, Brad Guth wrote: ... You are way off topic. *When do you plan on fixing that? Off topic? Man, that vile creature is off planet and outta' its' gourd! Don't even distract it from things of real concern! ROFLOL! Then tell us why the history as told by William Mook is wrong. Who's William Mook? And why should anyone care? -- Bob C. "Evidence confirming an observation is evidence that the observation is wrong." - McNameless |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 03:46:20 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth : On Jun 11, 3:43*am, HVAC wrote: On 6/11/2011 6:00 AM, Brad Guth wrote: I guess the person responsible for taking the thread off topic would be... you! When do you plan on fixing that? Shill #2 -- A man without religion is like a fish without a bicycle. * Vique So, Mr. all-knowing wise guy spook/mole, tell us why the version of history that involves JFK, as interpreted and told by William Mook is wrong. Who the **** is William Gook? Real funny, but then aren't all FUD-masters. Just because you worship him is no indication that anyone else knows who he is. Or what your made-up words and acronyms mean. Or what most of your posts are intended to convey. -- Bob C. "Evidence confirming an observation is evidence that the observation is wrong." - McNameless |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 04:15:49 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth : On Jun 11, 3:55*am, HVAC wrote: On 6/11/2011 6:46 AM, Brad Guth wrote: So, Mr. all-knowing wise guy spook/mole, tell us why the version of history that involves JFK, as interpreted and told by William Mook is wrong. Who the **** is William Gook? Real funny, but then aren't all FUD-masters. I'll tell you what's REALLY funny. Kooks like you *never* have a sense of humor and seemingly take zero pleasure in life. Why is that, Bradley? In the words of the Joker....Why so serious? -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo In other words, William Mook's interpretation of what got JFK and RFK each killed isn't in dispute. Since no one knows what that "interpretation" consists of, or what it's based on, how can we know? Knowing you from your posts, however, I'd venture that it's not in dispute because it's imaginary. Here's a suggestion, Sparky: If you'd like to see how *real* forensic analysis is done, pick up and read the book "Mortal Error" by Bonar Menninger, ISBN 0-312-08074-3. He makes a strong argument, based on actual physical evidence, regarding how JFK died. It's good to know what skulduggery side a devout ZNR redneck like yourself is on. What's a "ZNR"? And just to satisfy my curiosity, what's your personal definition of "redneck"? -- Bob C. "Evidence confirming an observation is evidence that the observation is wrong." - McNameless |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 11:26:18 -0400, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by HVAC : On 6/11/2011 10:53 AM, Brad Guth wrote: I enjoy helping others, as something that a GOP/ZNR redneck like yourself has never accomplished. I also fix stuff for others as well as for myself, unlike your kind that only buys new stuff. So I have fun without it costing an arm and a leg. What kind of stuff do you fix? Most commercial sports and other forms of spendy entertainment or optional spendy and often risky forms of personal recreation I think should be taxed 100%, so that the other 99.9% of us can afford to have safe and reasonably affordable fun. So you are in favor of taxing fishing and going to strip clubs? (FYI Both of those recreational activities are already taxed) Why should 99.9% of us have to pay for whatever the 0.1% get to do and get in trouble while doing it? Like what? Obviously you never give an honest tinker damn about others outside of your upper most 0.1%, as having any spare cash or time for fun. Hey.... Strippers got to make a living too! I think it's fascinating that he imagines that everyone who disagrees with him is in the upper 0.1% (presumably of income). Boy, did *he* get a wrong number... -- Bob C. "Evidence confirming an observation is evidence that the observation is wrong." - McNameless |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 2011-06-10 16:13, John Smith wrote:
On 6/10/2011 9:59 AM, Olrik wrote: On 2011-06-09 14:02, John Smith wrote: On 6/9/2011 10:47 AM, Bob Casanova wrote: ... Personally, I don't think Buddhism is a religion at all. Quite a few apparently feel that way, since it doesn't involve deities. Personally, I feel that "religion" encompasses any belief involving spiritualism in any form (i.e., anything for which belief rather than evidence is basic), and at least one dictionary definition seems to agree: "A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader." Seems specifically appropriate for Buddhism... “That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God.” -- Albert Einstein “Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.” -- Albert Einstein “Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.” -- Albert Einstein “I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details.” -- Albert Einstein “When the solution is simple, God is answering.” -- Albert Einstein http://atheism.about.com/od/adolfhitlernazigermany/tp/AdolfHitlerFaithGod.htm If that means you agree with Einstein, then I agree with you ... Is Hitler OK for you too? (Goodwin be damned...) Wait, I am in the wrong study room, this is for "The Art of Tangent and Obfuscation 101", you go on ahead without me! I thought you'd have like to read what another german of that era had to say about that "god" thing. My bad. |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/11/2011 1:00 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
Why should 99.9% of us have to pay for whatever the 0.1% get to do and get in trouble while doing it? Like what? Obviously you never give an honest tinker damn about others outside of your upper most 0.1%, as having any spare cash or time for fun. Hey.... Strippers got to make a living too! I think it's fascinating that he imagines that everyone who disagrees with him is in the upper 0.1% (presumably of income). Boy, did *he* get a wrong number... Ya... I work for a living. -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
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JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/11/2011 12:57 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
In other words, William Mook's interpretation of what got JFK and RFK each killed isn't in dispute. Since no one knows what that "interpretation" consists of, or what it's based on, how can we know? Knowing you from your posts, however, I'd venture that it's not in dispute because it's imaginary. Here's a suggestion, Sparky: If you'd like to see how *real* forensic analysis is done, pick up and read the book "Mortal Error" by Bonar Menninger, ISBN 0-312-08074-3. He makes a strong argument, based on actual physical evidence, regarding how JFK died. It's good to know what skulduggery side a devout ZNR redneck like yourself is on. What's a "ZNR"? And just to satisfy my curiosity, what's your personal definition of "redneck"? I think guth is busy "fixing things". -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
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JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Jun 11, 8:26*am, HVAC wrote:
On 6/11/2011 10:53 AM, Brad Guth wrote: I enjoy helping others, as something that a GOP/ZNR redneck like yourself has never accomplished. *I also fix stuff for others as well as for myself, unlike your kind that only buys new stuff. *So I have fun without it costing an arm and a leg. What kind of stuff do you fix? Electrical, electronics, hydraulics, acoustical matters, equipment installations and/or upgrades for much of what a typical private family or light commercial boat requires. I've even accomplished complex work for the Alaska State Ferry System. Yes, I have my own tools, training and personal expertise in those categories. My shop also has machining and welding as well as some limited sheet-metal fabrication capabilities, and I can run AutoCad in my spare time. I'm not claiming to be the top alpha dog or wizard in all things boat/ yacht related, but then I'm not half the cost of what most others get to charge, in fact some well known shipyards have charged their clients more than ten times what I would have charged to accomplished the same or better work (especially spendy when there's no paper trails associated). * Most commercial sports and other forms of spendy entertainment or optional spendy and often risky forms of personal recreation I think should be taxed 100%, so that the other 99.9% of us can afford to have safe and reasonably affordable fun. So you are in favor of taxing fishing and going to strip clubs? Anything in personal excess that's 4X more spendy than WalMart outfitting or whatever similar indulgence or entertainment disparity, you bet. I know of tax avoidance (meaning offshore registered or corporate overhead deducted) yacht-owners that essentially own and operate their $10+ million dollar boats for their fishing. Each and every pound of their tax-avoidance fish is costing us over $1000. (FYI Both of those recreational activities are already taxed) Why should 99.9% of us have to pay for whatever the 0.1% get to do and get in trouble while doing it? Like what? Like read or watch the news, or pay attention to those emergency services that are mostly public funded, not to mention various legal and insurance fees that we all get to pay at least quadruple for. Obviously you never give an honest tinker damn about others outside of your upper most 0.1%, as having any spare cash or time for fun. Hey.... Strippers got to make a living too! Fine and dandy, then by all means charge those watching and especially those touching, with a 100% tax. http://www.wanttoknow.info/ http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/11/2011 2:01 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
What kind of stuff do you fix? Electrical, electronics, hydraulics, acoustical matters, equipment installations and/or upgrades for much of what a typical private family or light commercial boat requires. I've even accomplished complex work for the Alaska State Ferry System. Yes, I have my own tools, training and personal expertise in those categories. My shop also has machining and welding as well as some limited sheet-metal fabrication capabilities, and I can run AutoCad in my spare time. I'm not claiming to be the top alpha dog or wizard in all things boat/ yacht related, but then I'm not half the cost of what most others get to charge, in fact some well known shipyards have charged their clients more than ten times what I would have charged to accomplished the same or better work (especially spendy when there's no paper trails associated). So you work under the table. Copy of this post sent to the IRS. -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/11/2011 2:01 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
So you are in favor of taxing fishing and going to strip clubs? Anything in personal excess that's 4X more spendy than WalMart Wal-Mart has a strip club? Now THAT is a SUPER Wal-Mart! -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/11/2011 1:24 PM, BDK wrote:
You worked for it, you earned it ... plonk. LOL! Kooks just love to plonk those they perceive as enemies. Over and over again. Johhn KQQK can't even seem to plonk right. He's consistent, I'll give him that...consistently wrong. He'll never write to me again....Boo-****ing-Hoo. -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Jun 12, 1:50*am, John Smith wrote:
On 6/11/2011 2:56 AM, Brad Guth wrote: On Jun 10, 9:09 pm, John *wrote: On 6/10/2011 9:04 PM, Brad Guth wrote: ... You are way off topic. *When do you plan on fixing that? Off topic? Man, that vile creature is off planet and outta' its' gourd! Don't even distract it from things of real concern! ROFLOL! Then tell us why the history as told by William Mook is wrong. Never heard of anyone with that name. *Don't you have any servants who can look that up for you. Can you afford a tutor? He can't even play one |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Jun 12, 5:18*am, BDK wrote:
In article , says... On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 02:56:13 -0700 (PDT), the following appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth : On Jun 10, 9:09*pm, John Smith wrote: On 6/10/2011 9:04 PM, Brad Guth wrote: ... You are way off topic. *When do you plan on fixing that? Off topic? Man, that vile creature is off planet and outta' its' gourd! Don't even distract it from things of real concern! ROFLOL! Then tell us why the history as told by William Mook is wrong. Who's William Mook? And why should anyone care? I dont know, I looked it up and couldn't find anything political from anyone named that, just some circuit designer and some guy raving about atomic spaceships. I would guess he's the one Brad keeps going on about, but I don't see anything from him as crazy as Guthballian Venus, so maybe that's wrong. Atomic spaceships sounds like one of guballs previous net incarnations |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Jun 12, 7:00*am, HVAC wrote:
On 6/11/2011 1:24 PM, BDK wrote: You worked for it, you earned it ... plonk. LOL! *Kooks just love to plonk those they perceive as enemies. Over and over again. Johhn KQQK can't even seem to plonk right. He's consistent, I'll give him that...consistently wrong. He'll never write to me again....Boo-****ing-Hoo. Oh yes he will. His idea of a killfile is to claim he has one, if that were true he'd be all alone as he claims to have killfiled every-one posting in here.. |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Jun 11, 11:59*am, HVAC wrote:
On 6/11/2011 2:01 PM, Brad Guth wrote: What kind of stuff do you fix? Electrical, electronics, hydraulics, acoustical matters, equipment installations and/or upgrades for much of what a typical private family or light commercial boat requires. *I've even accomplished complex work for the Alaska State Ferry System. *Yes, I have my own tools, training and personal expertise in those categories. * My shop also has machining and welding as well as some limited sheet-metal fabrication capabilities, and I can run AutoCad in my spare time. *I'm not claiming to be the top alpha dog or wizard in all things boat/ yacht related, but then I'm not half the cost of what most others get to charge, in fact some well known shipyards have charged their clients more than ten times what I would have charged to accomplished the same or better work (especially spendy when there's no paper trails associated). So you work under the table. Copy of this post sent to the IRS. -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girlhttp://www.youtube..com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo Your **** poor comprehension is noted, but then a true FUD-master has no need of comprehension. |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/11/2011 10:50 PM, BDK wrote:
That wouldn't surprise me a bit. I wonder if Brad believes in a perpetual motion machine? Mook Energy. -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/11/2011 5:11 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
btw; I only got paid by check, so there's no lack of paper trails on my part. Although I know of shipyards and few individuals that accepted cash-cash with no questions asked. Of course I have no way of knowing if they paid any associated sales or income tax on that cash-cash loot, but according to rednecks like yourself, they're all perfectly honest folks exactly like yourself. So you are now officially *denying* cheating on your taxes and defrauding the US government of its due? Noted. -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/11/2011 9:25 AM, HVAC wrote:
A brief summary of the typical symptoms of PPD includes: suspiciousness and distrust of others questioning hidden motives in others feelings of certainty, without justification or proof, that others are intent on harming or exploiting them social isolation aggressiveness and hostility little or no sense of humor Can it be treated with the proper medications? Is Brad on any medications? Would he admit it if he was? Has anyone noticed that Brad vehemently denied cheating on his taxes, yet said nary a word of denial his use of psychotropic medication? I'm just saying....... -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/11/2011 11:40 PM, Government Shill #2 wrote:
Apparently I'm a FUD master too? So now I have to share my crown? You can be FUD Master Northern Hemisphere. Kewl! -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
In message
, Brad Guth writes On Jun 11, 5:53*pm, John Vreeland wrote: On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 15:49:06 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote: On Jun 2, 2:53*pm, John Smith wrote: On 6/2/2011 10:17 AM, Warhol wrote: ... our ancient TV Tubes work with a bended electrical arc Beam in vacuum... ... You are going to have to look to Einstein to even get a "sense" and a "feel" about the slippery stuff, ether. It is not like any matter we know, it is completely alien to us. *We do not possess senses to detect it, and there are no instruments, yet, which will. One very un-intuitive quality of ether? *It passes through your vacuum tubes like the glass envelopes don't even exist, and all other parts of the tube, for that matter ... but then, I doubt you have a mind which can even begin to fathom speculation on ether -- so you are pretty much stuck where you are! Regards, JS If something/anything is moving FTL, such as gravity, then we can't possibly detect it even though it is still there. *Perhaps the matrix or flow of ether is simply FTL. Gravity is not FTL. *It moves at the speed of light. *This is why we can speak of gravity waves. *If you could observe two black holes orbiting close to one another from within the plane of their orbit you would feel the gravitational field change as each one flew by you. That changing field radiates outward in a spiral shape aligned with the plane of their orbit. If the ether exists it is undetectable. *If it exists it must be relativistic so that you cannot measure your movement through it. -- My years on the mudpit that is Usnenet have taught me one important thing: three Creation Scientists can have a serious conversation, if two of them are sock puppets. When was this speed of gravity objectively verified as c? September 8, 2002 Kopeikin measured it as c times 1.06 (but with an error range of plus or minus 0.21) by observing the gravitational lensing effect of Jupiter. -- John Ritson |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Jun 12, 3:38*am, John Ritson wrote:
In message , Brad Guth writes On Jun 11, 5:53*pm, John Vreeland wrote: On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 15:49:06 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote: On Jun 2, 2:53*pm, John Smith wrote: On 6/2/2011 10:17 AM, Warhol wrote: ... our ancient TV Tubes work with a bended electrical arc Beam in vacuum... ... You are going to have to look to Einstein to even get a "sense" and a "feel" about the slippery stuff, ether. It is not like any matter we know, it is completely alien to us. *We do not possess senses to detect it, and there are no instruments, yet, which will. One very un-intuitive quality of ether? *It passes through your vacuum tubes like the glass envelopes don't even exist, and all other parts of the tube, for that matter ... but then, I doubt you have a mind which can even begin to fathom speculation on ether -- so you are pretty much stuck where you are! Regards, JS If something/anything is moving FTL, such as gravity, then we can't possibly detect it even though it is still there. *Perhaps the matrix or flow of ether is simply FTL. Gravity is not FTL. *It moves at the speed of light. *This is why we can speak of gravity waves. *If you could observe two black holes orbiting close to one another from within the plane of their orbit you would feel the gravitational field change as each one flew by you. That changing field radiates outward in a spiral shape aligned with the plane of their orbit. If the ether exists it is undetectable. *If it exists it must be relativistic so that you cannot measure your movement through it. -- My years on the mudpit that is Usnenet have taught me one important thing: three Creation Scientists can have a serious conversation, if two of them are sock puppets. When was this speed of gravity objectively verified as c? September 8, 2002 Kopeikin measured it as c times 1.06 (but with an error range of plus or minus 0.21) by observing the gravitational lensing effect of Jupiter. -- John Ritson Thanks, I'll look into that, because it seems mainstream physics and whatever science hasn't picked up on this force velocity or propagation of gravity as being any done deal. "Several physicists, including Clifford M. Will and Steve Carlip, have criticized these claims on the grounds that they have allegedly misinterpreted the results of their measurements. Notably, prior to the actual transit, Hideki Asada in a paper to the Astrophysical Journal Letters theorized that the proposed experiment was essentially a roundabout confirmation of the speed of light instead of the speed of gravity." I suppose that more than a few others of sufficient expertise have interpreted this gravity force velocity in ways that haven't been accepted or otherwise peer replicated. How could the speed of light even exist unless gravity wasn't worth at least twice as fast? http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
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, Brad Guth writes On Jun 12, 3:38Â*am, John Ritson wrote: In message , Brad Guth writes On Jun 11, 5:53Â*pm, John Vreeland wrote: On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 15:49:06 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote: On Jun 2, 2:53Â*pm, John Smith wrote: On 6/2/2011 10:17 AM, Warhol wrote: ... our ancient TV Tubes work with a bended electrical arc Beam in vacuum... ... You are going to have to look to Einstein to even get a "sense" and a "feel" about the slippery stuff, ether. It is not like any matter we know, it is completely alien to us. Â*We do not possess senses to detect it, and there are no instruments, yet, which will. One very un-intuitive quality of ether? Â*It passes through your vacuum tubes like the glass envelopes don't even exist, and all other parts of the tube, for that matter ... but then, I doubt you have a mind which can even begin to fathom speculation on ether -- so you are pretty much stuck where you are! Regards, JS If something/anything is moving FTL, such as gravity, then we can't possibly detect it even though it is still there. Â*Perhaps the matrix or flow of ether is simply FTL. Gravity is not FTL. Â*It moves at the speed of light. Â*This is why we can speak of gravity waves. Â*If you could observe two black holes orbiting close to one another from within the plane of their orbit you would feel the gravitational field change as each one flew by you. That changing field radiates outward in a spiral shape aligned with the plane of their orbit. If the ether exists it is undetectable. Â*If it exists it must be relativistic so that you cannot measure your movement through it. -- My years on the mudpit that is Usnenet have taught me one important thing: three Creation Scientists can have a serious conversation, if two of them are sock puppets. When was this speed of gravity objectively verified as c? September 8, 2002 Kopeikin measured it as c times 1.06 (but with an error range of plus or minus 0.21) by observing the gravitational lensing effect of Jupiter. -- John Ritson Thanks, I'll look into that, because it seems mainstream physics and whatever science hasn't picked up on this force velocity or propagation of gravity as being any done deal. "Several physicists, including Clifford M. Will and Steve Carlip, have criticized these claims on the grounds that they have allegedly misinterpreted the results of their measurements. Notably, prior to the actual transit, Hideki Asada in a paper to the Astrophysical Journal Letters theorized that the proposed experiment was essentially a roundabout confirmation of the speed of light instead of the speed of gravity." I suppose that more than a few others of sufficient expertise have interpreted this gravity force velocity in ways that haven't been accepted or otherwise peer replicated. How could the speed of light even exist unless gravity wasn't worth at least twice as fast? http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” There is also the fact that sending probes into the outer solar system, repeatedly slingshotting around planets involves precise calculations which take into account the speed of gravity equalling c. If the speed were to be significantly different, the probes would not end up where they were supposed to be. -- John Ritson |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/12/2011 1:01 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
Unlike your FUD-master self, I got nothing to gain or lose by fudging either way. The folks that I've worked for (including most current clients have often been Jewish You kooks are a hoot! Who the **** knows or even CARES what religion their clients/customers are? Only a kook does. Or a racist. -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/12/2011 1:01 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
Unlike your FUD-master self, I got nothing to gain or lose by fudging either way. The folks that I've worked for (including most current clients have often been Jewish and/or otherwise devoutly faith-based because it helps them deal with everyday matters and self improvement issues), know that I'm outspoken and critical about mainstream religion and politics, whereas yourself remain as a paid brown-nosed clown or minion that does only whatever your FUD-masters tell you to do, which obviously doesn't require any individual deductive thinking on your part. It's not my fault that so many Jews (republican, democrat or independent) seem to be getting themselves and others into trouble, and even so often unable to resolve matters of their personal lives, homes and yachts that were caused by the very same selfish greed and/ or special interest motivated actions of others they typically have to associate with. Most of their boats/yachts are terribly energy inefficient and technically not even sufficiently seaworthy or all that serviceable because of the relatively ****-poor decisions made extensively by others of their own kind. How is it my fault when I advise clients of a proper set of energy efficient, relatively smooth and quiet main and auxiliary engines, along with a proper set of other accessories plus really good alternators plus a sufficiently sized and good quality battery bank for their inverter/UPS that'll actually do the job, if they turn to their good buddies for taking their advise and buying only back-door stuff as based entirely upon its untaxed dealer/wholesale (where-is as- is) rock bottom cheapness or superficial look that seldom if ever does whatever was required, and never is simple to use and/or gets impossible to service. Do you think it's still my fault that their boats end up being super spendy, inefficient, unreliable and even unsafe to use? If I'd told you a reasonably proper way of doing things and you said screw that, whereas instead doing it in your usual redneck cheap-ass know-it-all way because you didn't want anyone as an outsider making an honest dime off of you. How is it my fault when it either doesn't integrate properly, is overly complicated and works either inefficiently or poorly, if not at all? That was a truly epic kook rant/melt down, Guth. Now wipe the froth off your chin....... -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Jun 12, 10:47*am, John Ritson wrote:
In message , Brad Guth writes On Jun 12, 3:38*am, John Ritson wrote: In message , Brad Guth writes On Jun 11, 5:53*pm, John Vreeland wrote: On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 15:49:06 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote: On Jun 2, 2:53*pm, John Smith wrote: On 6/2/2011 10:17 AM, Warhol wrote: ... our ancient TV Tubes work with a bended electrical arc Beam in vacuum... ... You are going to have to look to Einstein to even get a "sense" and a "feel" about the slippery stuff, ether. It is not like any matter we know, it is completely alien to us. *We do not possess senses to detect it, and there are no instruments, yet, which will. One very un-intuitive quality of ether? *It passes through your vacuum tubes like the glass envelopes don't even exist, and all other parts of the tube, for that matter ... but then, I doubt you have a mind which can even begin to fathom speculation on ether -- so you are pretty much stuck where you are! Regards, JS If something/anything is moving FTL, such as gravity, then we can't possibly detect it even though it is still there. *Perhaps the matrix or flow of ether is simply FTL. Gravity is not FTL. *It moves at the speed of light. *This is why we can speak of gravity waves. *If you could observe two black holes orbiting close to one another from within the plane of their orbit you would feel the gravitational field change as each one flew by you. That changing field radiates outward in a spiral shape aligned with the plane of their orbit. If the ether exists it is undetectable. *If it exists it must be relativistic so that you cannot measure your movement through it. -- My years on the mudpit that is Usnenet have taught me one important thing: three Creation Scientists can have a serious conversation, if two of them are sock puppets. When was this speed of gravity objectively verified as c? September 8, 2002 Kopeikin measured it as c times 1.06 (but with an error range of plus or minus 0.21) by observing the gravitational lensing effect of Jupiter. -- John Ritson Thanks, I'll look into that, because it seems mainstream physics and whatever science hasn't picked up on this force velocity or propagation of gravity as being any done deal. "Several physicists, including Clifford M. Will and Steve Carlip, have criticized these claims on the grounds that they have allegedly misinterpreted the results of their measurements. Notably, prior to the actual transit, Hideki Asada in a paper to the Astrophysical Journal Letters theorized that the proposed experiment was essentially a roundabout confirmation of the speed of light instead of the speed of gravity." I suppose that more than a few others of sufficient expertise have interpreted this gravity force velocity in ways that haven't been accepted or otherwise peer replicated. How could the speed of light even exist unless gravity wasn't worth at least twice as fast? http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” There is also the fact that sending probes into the outer solar system, repeatedly slingshotting around planets involves precise calculations which take into account the speed of gravity equalling c. If the speed were to be significantly different, the probes would not end up where they were supposed to be. -- John Ritson You are confusing the force of gravity with the velocity of gravity. That’s like confusing the brightness or intensity of a given light bulb with the speed of light that’s always a variable because the in between medium is always a variable and/or distorted by the quicker velocity and/or propagation of gravity. If a constant magnet force is moving away a 0.1%c; is its force at any given distance going to be stronger or weaker than a stationary magnet? (same question applies to gravity) This science of physics proof pertaining to the velocity of a given force such as gravity should be accomplished within a physics lab, and thereby easily peer replicated. http://www.wanttoknow.info/ http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Jun 12, 10:18*pm, HVAC wrote:
On 6/11/2011 9:25 AM, HVAC wrote: A brief summary of the typical symptoms of PPD includes: suspiciousness and distrust of others questioning hidden motives in others feelings of certainty, without justification or proof, that others are intent on harming or exploiting them social isolation aggressiveness and hostility little or no sense of humor Can it be treated with the proper medications? Is Brad on any medications? Would he admit it if he was? Has anyone noticed that Brad vehemently denied cheating on his taxes, yet said nary a word of denial his use of psychotropic medication? I'm just saying....... It's taken as read that he is several sandwiches short of a cut lunch so psychotropic medication is a given |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Jun 13, 6:05*am, HVAC wrote:
You kooks are a hoot! Who the **** knows or even CARES what religion their clients/customers are? *Only a kook does. Or a racist. On the Net anything can claim to be any-one... Brad is as much a businessman as his clams of perpetual motion are valid |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Jun 12, 1:07*pm, george wrote:
On Jun 13, 6:05*am, HVAC wrote: You kooks are a hoot! Who the **** knows or even CARES what religion their clients/customers are? *Only a kook does. Or a racist. On the Net anything can claim to be any-one... Brad is as much a businessman as his clams of perpetual motion are valid You're the ones that claim there's never any such thing as a bad or dysfunctional Semite, whereas I'm just adding real world facts that kinda proves otherwise. Are you suggesting that our government agencies such as its SEC and maters related to the regulation of banking, insurance, investment/ mortgage industry, medical cartel/cabals plus their partners in the Federal Reserve were all being run by greedy Muslims? http://www.wanttoknow.info/ http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:08:10 -0400, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by HVAC : On 6/11/2011 1:00 PM, Bob Casanova wrote: Why should 99.9% of us have to pay for whatever the 0.1% get to do and get in trouble while doing it? Like what? Obviously you never give an honest tinker damn about others outside of your upper most 0.1%, as having any spare cash or time for fun. Hey.... Strippers got to make a living too! I think it's fascinating that he imagines that everyone who disagrees with him is in the upper 0.1% (presumably of income). Boy, did *he* get a wrong number... Ya... I work for a living. I did until I retired. And I never came even close to the upper 0.1% of income. I never even approached the median. -- Bob C. "Evidence confirming an observation is evidence that the observation is wrong." - McNameless |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:37:17 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by Bob Casanova : On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:52:17 -0700 (PDT), the following appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth : On Jun 10, 12:25*pm, Bob Casanova wrote: On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:07:06 -0700 (PDT), the following appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth : On Jun 10, 10:36*am, HVAC wrote: On 6/10/2011 9:55 AM, John Smith wrote: Funny that I've never read that before. You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you? “That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God.” -- Albert Einstein John... Do you know what a cite is? I just cited to you, a quote from Einstein, on the matter you inquired about, you have google before you, do you understand how to use a search engine? Instead of the histrionics, just say that you *don't* know what a cite is and move on...... Your whole live is a pathetic derivative of social/political/religious voodoo and cabal policies, doing only whatever you've been indoctrinated to do and say. *In other words, you and your remorseless killing machine kids *would have been ideal for Hitler or any other warlord that happen to be in charge. *In a few other words, you and your robot borg like kids go along with the mainstream flow of the moment, no matters what the consequences, doing only exactly as you were either instructed and/or allowed to do because you either can't or wouldn't dare think or rationalize anything through for yourself. This must be the primary reason there's a record percentage level of military family dysfunctions and suicides. *Way to go, HVAC. *Perhaps GW Bush and Dick Cheney should have given you and your deaf, dumb and blind "follow the leader" kids the highest medal of honor, starting off with your butt-sucking generation getting JFK killed. Wrong newsgroup; alt.rants.free-association.non-sequiturs is over that way... So your being a ZNR is good for business? What "business" is that? And what's a "ZNR"? [Crickets...] Oh, and you need to look up "non sequitur". -- Bob C. "Evidence confirming an observation is evidence that the observation is wrong." - McNameless |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:43:43 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by Bob Casanova : On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 21:06:11 -0700 (PDT), the following appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth : On Jun 10, 5:39*pm, Government Shill #2 wrote: On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:24:05 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote: On Jun 10, 4:18*pm, Government Shill #2 wrote: On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:05:06 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote: On Jun 9, 8:17*pm, Government Shill #2 wrote: On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:55:54 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote: Most here are pretend-Atheists that only act/react exactly like Semites that never actually believed in any wrath of God anyway? I wish I could work out what this is meant to say! Shill #2 -- "Me fail English? That's unpossible!" Ralph Wiggum Pretenders that never police their own kind make good FUD-masters. ???????? What the...? Please... write... in... English. Englische bitte. Engelse asseblief. Ingles mangyaring. Anglais s'il vous plaît. Bahasa Inggris silahkan. Inglese per favore. Engelska vänligen. Are you a Muslim or in favor of some religion other than Semite/ Jewish? I believe Muslims and Jews are just as deluded as the Christians. There is no sky pixie. To Believe in any particular one is nuts. Don't bother to give us that usual crap that you go along with whatever any religion or faith-based cabal has to say. You mean the truth? No. It's obvious that you and truth parted company years ago. Tell us where does your income and/or benefits come from? My real income, or my shill one you fantasise about? My real income comes from an aeronautical engineering company. We fix planes. That's the truth, so you may now ignore it. Since you never think for yourself; *who are your peers? My peers, Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”, are sane people. That's FUD-master required of each and every ZNR redneck. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahaha! "That's FUD-master required of each and every ZNR redneck." Bwahahahahahahahahaa! What the **** is that *supposed* to mean? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Shill #2 -- The men who really believe in themselves are all in lunatic asylums. * - G. K. Chesterton I means a whole lot more than your reply. Don't tell me that you don't know what FUD stands for. I certainly don't. Nor "ZNR". Nor your use of the term "redneck", which doesn't seem to agree with normal usage. [Crickets...] Hint: Words and acronyms you make up aren't automatically part of the general lexicon. -- Bob C. "Evidence confirming an observation is evidence that the observation is wrong." - McNameless |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:44:53 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by Bob Casanova : On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 02:56:13 -0700 (PDT), the following appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth : On Jun 10, 9:09*pm, John Smith wrote: On 6/10/2011 9:04 PM, Brad Guth wrote: ... You are way off topic. *When do you plan on fixing that? Off topic? Man, that vile creature is off planet and outta' its' gourd! Don't even distract it from things of real concern! ROFLOL! Then tell us why the history as told by William Mook is wrong. Who's William Mook? And why should anyone care? [Crickets...] -- Bob C. "Evidence confirming an observation is evidence that the observation is wrong." - McNameless |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:57:05 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by Bob Casanova : On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 04:15:49 -0700 (PDT), the following appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth : On Jun 11, 3:55*am, HVAC wrote: On 6/11/2011 6:46 AM, Brad Guth wrote: So, Mr. all-knowing wise guy spook/mole, tell us why the version of history that involves JFK, as interpreted and told by William Mook is wrong. Who the **** is William Gook? Real funny, but then aren't all FUD-masters. I'll tell you what's REALLY funny. Kooks like you *never* have a sense of humor and seemingly take zero pleasure in life. Why is that, Bradley? In the words of the Joker....Why so serious? -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo In other words, William Mook's interpretation of what got JFK and RFK each killed isn't in dispute. Since no one knows what that "interpretation" consists of, or what it's based on, how can we know? Knowing you from your posts, however, I'd venture that it's not in dispute because it's imaginary. Here's a suggestion, Sparky: If you'd like to see how *real* forensic analysis is done, pick up and read the book "Mortal Error" by Bonar Menninger, ISBN 0-312-08074-3. He makes a strong argument, based on actual physical evidence, regarding how JFK died. Have you checked this out yet, Sparky? It's good to know what skulduggery side a devout ZNR redneck like yourself is on. What's a "ZNR"? And just to satisfy my curiosity, what's your personal definition of "redneck"? [Crickets...] -- Bob C. "Evidence confirming an observation is evidence that the observation is wrong." - McNameless |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Jun 12, 3:19*pm, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:44:53 -0700, the following appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Bob Casanova : On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 02:56:13 -0700 (PDT), the following appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth : On Jun 10, 9:09*pm, John Smith wrote: On 6/10/2011 9:04 PM, Brad Guth wrote: ... You are way off topic. *When do you plan on fixing that? Off topic? Man, that vile creature is off planet and outta' its' gourd! Don't even distract it from things of real concern! ROFLOL! Then tell us why the history as told by William Mook is wrong. Who's William Mook? And why should anyone care? [Crickets...] -- Bob C. "Evidence confirming an observation is evidence that the observation is wrong." * * * * * * * * * * * * * - McNameless So, FUD-masters and ZNR/GOP rednecks are not allowed to speak of anything investigative by William Mook. Message received loud and clear. http://www.wanttoknow.info/ http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
In message
, Brad Guth writes On Jun 12, 10:47Â*am, John Ritson wrote: In message , Brad Guth writes On Jun 12, 3:38Â*am, John Ritson wrote: In message , Brad Guth writes On Jun 11, 5:53Â*pm, John Vreeland wrote: On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 15:49:06 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote: On Jun 2, 2:53Â*pm, John Smith wrote: On 6/2/2011 10:17 AM, Warhol wrote: ... our ancient TV Tubes work with a bended electrical arc Beam in vacuum... ... You are going to have to look to Einstein to even get a "sense" and a "feel" about the slippery stuff, ether. It is not like any matter we know, it is completely alien to Â*We do not possess senses to detect it, and there are no instruments, yet, which will. One very un-intuitive quality of ether? Â*It passes through vacuum tubes like the glass envelopes don't even exist, and all parts of the tube, for that matter ... but then, I doubt you have a which can even begin to fathom speculation on ether -- so you are pretty much stuck where you are! Regards, JS If something/anything is moving FTL, such as gravity, then we can't possibly detect it even though it is still there. Â*Perhaps the matrix or flow of ether is simply FTL. Gravity is not FTL. Â*It moves at the speed of light. Â*This is why we can speak of gravity waves. Â*If you could observe two black holes orbiting close to one another from within the plane of their orbit you would feel the gravitational field change as each one flew by you. That changing field radiates outward in a spiral shape aligned with the plane of their orbit. If the ether exists it is undetectable. Â*If it exists it must be relativistic so that you cannot measure your movement through it. -- My years on the mudpit that is Usnenet have taught me one important thing: three Creation Scientists can have a serious conversation, if two of them are sock puppets. When was this speed of gravity objectively verified as c? September 8, 2002 Kopeikin measured it as c times 1.06 (but with an error range of plus or minus 0.21) by observing the gravitational lensing effect of Jupiter. -- John Ritson Thanks, I'll look into that, because it seems mainstream physics and whatever science hasn't picked up on this force velocity or propagation of gravity as being any done deal. "Several physicists, including Clifford M. Will and Steve Carlip, have criticized these claims on the grounds that they have allegedly misinterpreted the results of their measurements. Notably, prior to the actual transit, Hideki Asada in a paper to the Astrophysical Journal Letters theorized that the proposed experiment was essentially a roundabout confirmation of the speed of light instead of the speed of gravity." I suppose that more than a few others of sufficient expertise have interpreted this gravity force velocity in ways that haven't been accepted or otherwise peer replicated. How could the speed of light even exist unless gravity wasn't worth at least twice as fast? http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” There is also the fact that sending probes into the outer solar system, repeatedly slingshotting around planets involves precise calculations which take into account the speed of gravity equalling c. If the speed were to be significantly different, the probes would not end up where they were supposed to be. -- John Ritson You are confusing the force of gravity with the velocity of gravity. That’s like confusing the brightness or intensity of a given light bulb with the speed of light that’s always a variable because the in between medium is always a variable and/or distorted by the quicker velocity and/or propagation of gravity. If a constant magnet force is moving away a 0.1%c; is its force at any given distance going to be stronger or weaker than a stationary magnet? (same question applies to gravity) This science of physics proof pertaining to the velocity of a given force such as gravity should be accomplished within a physics lab, and thereby easily peer replicated. http://www.wanttoknow.info/ http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” The speed of gravity is the speed at which gravitational force propagates. Is an object pulled in the direction where a mass is currently seen to be (in which case the 'speed of gravity' is the speed of light) or is it pulled in the direction where it currently 'is' (in which case the 'speed of gravity' is infinite)? The observed answer to the above question is that the speed of gravity is c. If objects are travelling at speeds at which relativistic effects become significant, then the effective mass changes and thus the gravitational effects change, but this has nothing to do with the 'speed of gravity'. -- John Ritson |
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