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John Smith[_7_] June 9th 11 07:00 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
 
On 6/9/2011 10:53 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 21:20:29 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John :

On 6/8/2011 9:18 PM, Olrik wrote:

...
You will wait a long time, John Smith.

Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the speed
of light.


Yep, a vacuum full of gravitational ether, same stuff which conducts
light -- just another form (frequency) of EM ...


Einstein's "gravitational ether" was a metaphor (you can ask
Mommy what that means) and no physical medium is required
for the propagation of EM radiation.

IOW, there's no "stuff"; there's only spacetime shaped by
mass and energy.


Yes, your denial of Einstein is obvious, no matter what attempts you
make to obfuscate it and spin it ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

John Smith[_7_] June 9th 11 07:02 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
 
On 6/9/2011 10:47 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:

...
Personally, I don't think Buddhism is a religion at all.


Quite a few apparently feel that way, since it doesn't
involve deities.

Personally, I feel that "religion" encompasses any belief
involving spiritualism in any form (i.e., anything for which
belief rather than evidence is basic), and at least one
dictionary definition seems to agree:

"A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the
teachings of a spiritual leader."

Seems specifically appropriate for Buddhism...


“That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning
power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea
of God.” -- Albert Einstein

“Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge
is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.” -- Albert Einstein

“Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”
-- Albert Einstein

“I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this
or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to
know His thoughts; the rest are

details.” -- Albert Einstein

“When the solution is simple, God is answering.” -- Albert Einstein

If that means you agree with Einstein, then I agree with you ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

Brad Guth June 9th 11 07:04 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
On Jun 9, 9:11*am, BDK wrote:
In article 74a0283e-3065-4492-9dd6-8a9c5f196294
@q12g2000prb.googlegroups.com, says...











On Jun 9, 7:58*am, John Smith wrote:
On 6/9/2011 2:47 AM, HVAC wrote:


On 6/8/2011 7:32 PM, John Smith wrote:


Did you just become aware we don't even know what properties the ether
has?


And we don't know what properties your god has.
Coincidence? I think not.
...


You mean, "Einsteins creators' properties", no, Einstein only indicated
that this creator is responsible for the existence, order and laws of
the universe.


Funny that I've never read that before.
You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you?


?That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning
power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea
of God.? -- Albert Einstein


--


Regards,
JS
?The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it?s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.? -- Patrick Henry


The only Gods worshiped by HVAC, Hagar, BDK and their rabbi Saul Levy
are dark and scary, as well as sadistic and perverted, plus into inter-
species sexual experimentation.


*http://www.wanttoknow.info/
*http://translate.google.com/#
*Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / ?Guth Usenet?


I don't worship any gods Brad. That's for the weak minded and gullible,
and your fellow Guthballian lunatics.

--
BDK- Top of the government shill heap for over 10 years running!


But you worship those that do worship gods, and especially of those
public-funded keeping your public-funded quality of life up to snuff,
even though the public money simply isn't there to afford the likes of
yourself and millions of other needing as much or a whole lot more.

If your public funding was cut off, or even reduced by 50%, how long
could you last?

http://www.wanttoknow.info/
http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

[email protected] June 9th 11 07:22 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
 
Light has Mass and Energy.We are Living Proof of that.
cuhulin


John Smith[_7_] June 9th 11 07:24 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
 
On 6/9/2011 10:42 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:

...
Yes, it's quite plain.


Yes, it is!

But, no matter the importance or quantity of the text presented to
attempt to reach you and have you see it, you fail ...

It is your focus on religion and denial of all this is in plain sight
which is your problem. It is your sole intent to take all argument,
discussion, etc. and bend it to prove your beliefs which is the cause of
all fail at ...

It is your refusal to leave this focus which binds you to your failures,
mistakes and errors.

No one is doing anything to you, your attempt to do onto others is what
is harming you.

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

Brad Guth June 9th 11 07:24 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
On Jun 9, 10:56*am, John Smith wrote:
On 6/9/2011 10:42 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:









*...
Do you have the faintest idea what you think you're talking
about?


You mean...


I mean exactly what I stated.


I guess you don't...


Dream on ... it is plain to see ...


Your assertion that Einstein professed to believe in a
personal deity, even though he specifically denied it?


Yes, it's quite plain.


My "claim(s)" are these are direct quotes from Einstein:

“That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning
power, which is

revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God.” --
Albert Einstein

“Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge
is shipwrecked by

the laughter of the gods.” -- Albert Einstein

“Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”
-- Albert Einstein

“I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this
or that phenomenon,

in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts;
the rest are

details.” -- Albert Einstein

“When the solution is simple, God is answering.” -- Albert Einstein

But, now, I must further claim your spin tactics are to put words into
others mouths, then claim they are making your supplied "claims", and
claim they are false ...

Further, you attempt to degrade and deny Einstein and his
statements/beliefs in such spin tactics.

That is all which is happening here, that is all which has been
happening since you and your ilk has stuck their religion-focused-arses
into the discussion, before your type came on the scene ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry


http://lhc-machine-outreach.web.cern...nts/vacuum.htm

LHC "Ultrahigh beam vacuum 10-10 Torr (~3 million molecules/cm3) , we
want to avoid collisions with gas molecules"

3e6 molecules/cm3 seems fairly populated, not to mention whatever
photons are involved.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/
http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

John Smith[_7_] June 9th 11 07:27 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
 
On 6/9/2011 10:42 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:

...
Yes, it's quite plain.


Yes, it is!

But, no matter the importance or quantity of the text presented to
attempt to reach you and have you see it, you fail ...

It is your focus on religion and denial of all this being is in plain
sight which is your problem. It is your sole intent to take all
argument, discussion, etc. and bend it to prove your beliefs which is
the cause of all which YOU fail at ...

It is your refusal to leave this focus which binds you to your failures,
mistakes and errors.

No one is doing anything to you, your attempt to do onto others is what
is harming you.

QUITE PLAIN! INDEED!

The equivalent of not being able to see the forest, though the fault of
the trees!

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

BDK[_7_] June 9th 11 07:28 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
In article 75d873b5-fb4e-455d-bb01-4dc0b5aa5aa0
@x38g2000pri.googlegroups.com, says...

On Jun 9, 9:11*am, BDK wrote:
In article 74a0283e-3065-4492-9dd6-8a9c5f196294
@q12g2000prb.googlegroups.com, says...











On Jun 9, 7:58*am, John Smith wrote:
On 6/9/2011 2:47 AM, HVAC wrote:


On 6/8/2011 7:32 PM, John Smith wrote:


Did you just become aware we don't even know what properties the ether
has?


And we don't know what properties your god has.
Coincidence? I think not.
...


You mean, "Einsteins creators' properties", no, Einstein only indicated
that this creator is responsible for the existence, order and laws of
the universe.


Funny that I've never read that before.
You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you?


?That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning
power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea
of God.? -- Albert Einstein


--


Regards,
JS
?The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it?s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.? -- Patrick Henry


The only Gods worshiped by HVAC, Hagar, BDK and their rabbi Saul Levy
are dark and scary, as well as sadistic and perverted, plus into inter-
species sexual experimentation.


*
http://www.wanttoknow.info/
*http://translate.google.com/#
*Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / ?Guth Usenet?


I don't worship any gods Brad. That's for the weak minded and gullible,
and your fellow Guthballian lunatics.

--
BDK- Top of the government shill heap for over 10 years running!


But you worship those that do worship gods, and especially of those
public-funded keeping your public-funded quality of life up to snuff,
even though the public money simply isn't there to afford the likes of
yourself and millions of other needing as much or a whole lot more.


Whatever that means in English, I have no idea...


If your public funding was cut off, or even reduced by 50%, how long
could you last?


What public funding is that Brad? I don't work for any government
agency, so I don't get any public funding I'm aware of.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/
http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / ?Guth Usenet?




--
BDK- Top of the government shill heap for over 10 years running!

Brad Guth June 9th 11 07:31 PM

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On Jun 8, 9:32*pm, wrote:
On Jun 9, 12:20*am, John Smith wrote:









On 6/8/2011 9:18 PM, Olrik wrote:


...
You will wait a long time, John Smith.


Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the speed
of light.


Yep, a vacuum full of gravitational ether, same stuff which conducts
light -- just another form (frequency) of EM ...


--


Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry


There are six (!) theories of the visible light propagation . Can you
name any of them ?


http://lhc-machine-outreach.web.cern...nts/vacuum.htm
LHC "Ultrahigh beam vacuum 10-10 Torr (~3 million molecules/cm3) , we
want to avoid collisions with gas molecules"

3e6 molecules/cm3 seems fairly populated, not to mention whatever
trillions upon trillions upon trillions of mostly invisible photons
are likely involved.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/
http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

John Smith[_7_] June 9th 11 07:39 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
 
On 6/9/2011 10:53 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:

...
IOW, there's no "stuff"; there's only spacetime shaped by
mass and energy.


A blaring truth can no longer be escaped ...

The most wackiest religious fanatic has more in common with the greatest
thinkers of all time than you, yourself, indeed, than any atheist who
denies a creator.

You have not failed in all your efforts, you have managed to get that to
my attention ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

george June 9th 11 09:22 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
On Jun 10, 4:11*am, BDK wrote:
In article 74a0283e-3065-4492-9dd6-8a9c5f196294
@q12g2000prb.googlegroups.com, says...











On Jun 9, 7:58*am, John Smith wrote:
On 6/9/2011 2:47 AM, HVAC wrote:


On 6/8/2011 7:32 PM, John Smith wrote:


Did you just become aware we don't even know what properties the ether
has?


And we don't know what properties your god has.
Coincidence? I think not.
...


You mean, "Einsteins creators' properties", no, Einstein only indicated
that this creator is responsible for the existence, order and laws of
the universe.


Funny that I've never read that before.
You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you?


?That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning
power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea
of God.? -- Albert Einstein


--


Regards,
JS
?The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it?s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.? -- Patrick Henry


The only Gods worshiped by HVAC, Hagar, BDK and their rabbi Saul Levy
are dark and scary, as well as sadistic and perverted, plus into inter-
species sexual experimentation.


*http://www.wanttoknow.info/
*http://translate.google.com/#
*Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / ?Guth Usenet?


I don't worship any gods Brad. That's for the weak minded and gullible,
and your fellow Guthballian lunatics.

SO it's you who's got the decoder ring eh...

Is that what he was on about? His sky pixy ?

Keith Willshaw June 9th 11 10:18 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
John Smith wrote:
On 6/9/2011 10:42 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:

...
Do you have the faintest idea what you think you're talking
about?

You mean...


I mean exactly what I stated.

I guess you don't...

Dream on ... it is plain to see ...


Your assertion that Einstein professed to believe in a
personal deity, even though he specifically denied it?

Yes, it's quite plain.


My "claim(s)" are these are direct quotes from Einstein:

“That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior
reasoning power, which is

revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God.” --
Albert Einstein

“Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and
Knowledge is shipwrecked by

the laughter of the gods.” -- Albert Einstein


Well now we know Einstein was raised Jewish so this is hardly a
prefession of religious belief. What we have here is a sequence
of snipperts taken out of context

“Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”
-- Albert Einstein


Lets complete this paragraph shall we

“My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior
Spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive
with our frail and feeble minds. The deeply emotional conviction of the
presence of a superior reasoning Power, which is revealed in the
incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God.”

See how taking it out of context twists the meaning ?

“I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in
this or that phenomenon,

in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts;
the rest are

details.” -- Albert Einstein


This was written in 1905 when he was 26 years old using allegory to make
a point. This is scarcely an espousal of conventional judaism.


“When the solution is simple, God is answering.” -- Albert Einstein


Allegory again

But, now, I must further claim your spin tactics are to put words into
others mouths, then claim they are making your supplied "claims", and
claim they are false ...

Further, you attempt to degrade and deny Einstein and his
statements/beliefs in such spin tactics.


I don't but you apparently do so let me give some full and unabridged quotes


In 1927

"I cannot conceive of a personal God who would directly influence the
actions of individuals, or would directly sit in judgment on creatures of
his own creation. I cannot do this in spite of the fact that mechanistic
causality has, to a certain extent, been placed in doubt by modern science.
My religiosity consists in a humble admiration of the infinitely superior
spirit that reveals itself in the little that we, with our weak and
transitory understanding, can comprehend of reality. Morality is of the
highest importance-but for us, not for God. "


In 1945
"From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been
an atheist.... I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a
personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not
share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is
mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious
indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility
corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature
and of our being."

In 1954
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a
lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal
God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something
is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration
for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it. "

Shortly before he died
"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of
human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive
legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."




That is all which is happening here, that is all which has been
happening since you and your ilk has stuck their
religion-focused-arses into the discussion, before your type came on
the scene ...



The only person who persists on bringing in religion is YOU
and you are the only person who believes that telling the
truth is degrading.

Keith



[email protected] June 9th 11 10:30 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
 
Seize DC
http://www.cryptome.org/index.html
http://www.legitgov.org/seizedc
http://www.seizedc.org
September 10,2011.
cuhulin


John Smith[_7_] June 10th 11 02:35 AM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
 
On 6/9/2011 2:18 PM, Keith Willshaw wrote:
John Smith wrote:
On 6/9/2011 10:42 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:

...
Do you have the faintest idea what you think you're talking
about?

You mean...

I mean exactly what I stated.

I guess you don't...

Dream on ... it is plain to see ...

Your assertion that Einstein professed to believe in a
personal deity, even though he specifically denied it?

Yes, it's quite plain.


My "claim(s)" are these are direct quotes from Einstein:

“That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior
reasoning power, which is

revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God.” --
Albert Einstein

“Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and
Knowledge is shipwrecked by

the laughter of the gods.” -- Albert Einstein


Well now we know Einstein was raised Jewish so this is hardly a
prefession of religious belief. What we have here is a sequence
of snipperts taken out of context

“Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”
-- Albert Einstein


Lets complete this paragraph shall we

“My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior
Spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive
with our frail and feeble minds. The deeply emotional conviction of the
presence of a superior reasoning Power, which is revealed in the
incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God.”

See how taking it out of context twists the meaning ?

“I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in
this or that phenomenon,

in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts;
the rest are

details.” -- Albert Einstein


This was written in 1905 when he was 26 years old using allegory to make
a point. This is scarcely an espousal of conventional judaism.


“When the solution is simple, God is answering.” -- Albert Einstein


Allegory again

But, now, I must further claim your spin tactics are to put words into
others mouths, then claim they are making your supplied "claims", and
claim they are false ...

Further, you attempt to degrade and deny Einstein and his
statements/beliefs in such spin tactics.


I don't but you apparently do so let me give some full and unabridged quotes


In 1927

"I cannot conceive of a personal God who would directly influence the
actions of individuals, or would directly sit in judgment on creatures of
his own creation. I cannot do this in spite of the fact that mechanistic
causality has, to a certain extent, been placed in doubt by modern science.
My religiosity consists in a humble admiration of the infinitely superior
spirit that reveals itself in the little that we, with our weak and
transitory understanding, can comprehend of reality. Morality is of the
highest importance-but for us, not for God. "


In 1945
"From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been
an atheist.... I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a
personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not
share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is
mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious
indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility
corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature
and of our being."

In 1954
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a
lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal
God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something
is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration
for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it. "

Shortly before he died
"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of
human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive
legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."




That is all which is happening here, that is all which has been
happening since you and your ilk has stuck their
religion-focused-arses into the discussion, before your type came on
the scene ...



The only person who persists on bringing in religion is YOU
and you are the only person who believes that telling the
truth is degrading.

Keith



Do your song and dance, I think most can realize what Einsteins Creator
was ... that Einstein acknowledged the existence of such and
intelligence ...

Your particular religious belief in atheism is also noted.

So, sing, dance, be merry, we have established the base lines ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

BDK[_7_] June 10th 11 02:41 AM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
In article 25accbca-389f-4232-9fcb-
, says...

On Jun 10, 4:11*am, BDK wrote:
In article 74a0283e-3065-4492-9dd6-8a9c5f196294
@q12g2000prb.googlegroups.com, says...











On Jun 9, 7:58*am, John Smith wrote:
On 6/9/2011 2:47 AM, HVAC wrote:


On 6/8/2011 7:32 PM, John Smith wrote:


Did you just become aware we don't even know what properties the ether
has?


And we don't know what properties your god has.
Coincidence? I think not.
...


You mean, "Einsteins creators' properties", no, Einstein only indicated
that this creator is responsible for the existence, order and laws of
the universe.


Funny that I've never read that before.
You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you?


?That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning
power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea
of God.? -- Albert Einstein


--


Regards,
JS
?The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it?s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.? -- Patrick Henry


The only Gods worshiped by HVAC, Hagar, BDK and their rabbi Saul Levy
are dark and scary, as well as sadistic and perverted, plus into inter-
species sexual experimentation.


*
http://www.wanttoknow.info/
*http://translate.google.com/#
*Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / ?Guth Usenet?


I don't worship any gods Brad. That's for the weak minded and gullible,
and your fellow Guthballian lunatics.

SO it's you who's got the decoder ring eh...

Is that what he was on about? His sky pixy ?


I don't know, he's into a kook off with Johnny KQQK, something about
ether. Too much of it would explain what's going on with both of them.

--
BDK- Top of the government shill heap for over 10 years running!

Brad Guth June 10th 11 03:55 AM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
On Jun 9, 6:35*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 6/9/2011 2:18 PM, Keith Willshaw wrote:









John Smith wrote:
On 6/9/2011 10:42 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:


* ...
Do you have the faintest idea what you think you're talking
about?


You mean...


I mean exactly what I stated.


I guess you don't...


Dream on ... it is plain to see ...


Your assertion that Einstein professed to believe in a
personal deity, even though he specifically denied it?


Yes, it's quite plain.


My "claim(s)" are these are direct quotes from Einstein:


“That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior
reasoning power, which is


revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God.” --
Albert Einstein


“Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and
Knowledge is shipwrecked by


the laughter of the gods.” -- Albert Einstein


Well now we know Einstein was raised Jewish so this is hardly a
prefession of religious belief. What we have here is a sequence
of snipperts taken out of context


“Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind..”
-- Albert Einstein


Lets complete this paragraph shall we


“My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior
Spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive
with our frail and feeble minds. The deeply emotional conviction of the
presence of a superior reasoning Power, which is revealed in the
incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God.”


See how taking it out of context twists the meaning ?


“I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in
this or that phenomenon,


in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts;
the rest are


details.” -- Albert Einstein


This was written in 1905 when he was 26 years old using allegory to make
a point. This is scarcely an espousal of conventional judaism.


“When the solution is simple, God is answering.” -- Albert Einstein


Allegory again


But, now, I must further claim your spin tactics are to put words into
others mouths, then claim they are making your supplied "claims", and
claim they are false ...


Further, you attempt to degrade and deny Einstein and his
statements/beliefs in such spin tactics.


I don't but you apparently do so let me give some full and unabridged quotes


In 1927


"I cannot conceive of a personal God who would directly influence the
actions of individuals, or would directly sit in judgment on creatures of
his own creation. I cannot do this in spite of the fact that mechanistic
causality has, to a certain extent, been placed in doubt by modern science.
My religiosity consists in a humble admiration of the infinitely superior
spirit that reveals itself in the little that we, with our weak and
transitory understanding, can comprehend of reality. Morality is of the
highest importance-but for us, not for God. "


In 1945
"From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been
an atheist.... I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a
personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not
share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is
mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious
indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility
corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature
and of our being."


In 1954
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a
lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal
God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something
is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration
for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it. "


Shortly before he died
"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of
human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive
legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."


That is all which is happening here, that is all which has been
happening since you and your ilk has stuck their
religion-focused-arses into the discussion, before your type came on
the scene ...


The only person who persists on bringing in religion is YOU
and you are the only person who believes that telling the
truth is degrading.


Keith


Do your song and dance, I think most can realize what Einsteins Creator
was ... that Einstein acknowledged the existence of such and
intelligence ...

Your particular religious belief in atheism is also noted.

So, sing, dance, be merry, we have established the base lines ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry


Most here are pretend-Atheists that only act/react exactly like
Semites that never actually believed in any wrath of God anyway. So,
it's always full speed ahead for them, and never any remorse no
matters how many do-overs they manage to screw up.

Expecting anything else from a certified FUD-master would be crazy.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/
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Keith Willshaw June 10th 11 09:00 AM

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John Smith wrote:
On 6/9/2011 2:18 PM, Keith Willshaw wrote:
John Smith wrote:
On 6/9/2011 10:42 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:

...
Do you have the faintest idea what you think you're talking
about?

You mean...

I mean exactly what I stated.

I guess you don't...

Dream on ... it is plain to see ...

Your assertion that Einstein professed to believe in a
personal deity, even though he specifically denied it?

Yes, it's quite plain.

My "claim(s)" are these are direct quotes from Einstein:

“That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior
reasoning power, which is

revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God.” --
Albert Einstein

“Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and
Knowledge is shipwrecked by

the laughter of the gods.” -- Albert Einstein


Well now we know Einstein was raised Jewish so this is hardly a
prefession of religious belief. What we have here is a sequence
of snipperts taken out of context

“Science without religion is lame, religion without science is
blind.” -- Albert Einstein


Lets complete this paragraph shall we

“My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable
superior Spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are
able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds. The deeply
emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning Power,
which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of
God.” See how taking it out of context twists the meaning ?

“I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in
this or that phenomenon,

in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His
thoughts; the rest are

details.” -- Albert Einstein


This was written in 1905 when he was 26 years old using allegory to
make a point. This is scarcely an espousal of conventional judaism.


“When the solution is simple, God is answering.” -- Albert Einstein


Allegory again

But, now, I must further claim your spin tactics are to put words
into others mouths, then claim they are making your supplied
"claims", and claim they are false ...

Further, you attempt to degrade and deny Einstein and his
statements/beliefs in such spin tactics.


I don't but you apparently do so let me give some full and
unabridged quotes In 1927

"I cannot conceive of a personal God who would directly influence the
actions of individuals, or would directly sit in judgment on
creatures of his own creation. I cannot do this in spite of the fact
that mechanistic causality has, to a certain extent, been placed in
doubt by modern science. My religiosity consists in a humble
admiration of the infinitely superior spirit that reveals itself in
the little that we, with our weak and transitory understanding, can
comprehend of reality. Morality is of the highest importance-but for
us, not for God. " In 1945
"From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have
always been an atheist.... I have repeatedly said that in my opinion
the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an
agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the
professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of
liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in
youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the
weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our
being." In 1954
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious
convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not
believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have
expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called
religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of
the world so far as our science can reveal it. " Shortly before he died
"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product
of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still
primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."




That is all which is happening here, that is all which has been
happening since you and your ilk has stuck their
religion-focused-arses into the discussion, before your type came on
the scene ...



The only person who persists on bringing in religion is YOU
and you are the only person who believes that telling the
truth is degrading.

Keith



Do your song and dance, I think most can realize what Einsteins
Creator was ... that Einstein acknowledged the existence of such and
intelligence ...

Your particular religious belief in atheism is also noted.


Pretense of psychic skills was to be expected but note again that
in NONE of these threads have I mentioned my own beliefs

So, sing, dance, be merry, we have established the base lines ...


Indeed we have your kookdom

Keith



HVAC June 10th 11 10:26 AM

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On 6/9/2011 10:58 AM, John Smith wrote:



Funny that I've never read that before.
You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you?



“That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning
power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea
of God.” -- Albert Einstein



John... Do you know what a cite is?











--
"OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

[email protected] June 10th 11 02:35 PM

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Eyeballin,,, Caterpillar is Eyeballin, Sears is Eyeballin, now CME is
Eyeballin,,, Eyeballin leaving Illinois.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=308868

Illinois is the place to be! I spent about ten months at Scott Air Force
Base,Illinois.
cuhulin, I am not Eyeballin


John Smith[_7_] June 10th 11 02:43 PM

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On 6/10/2011 1:00 AM, Keith Willshaw wrote:

...
Pretense of psychic skills was to be expected but note again that
in NONE of these threads have I mentioned my own beliefs

So, sing, dance, be merry, we have established the base lines ...


Indeed we have your kookdom

Keith



What we have is a complete record of your beliefs, actions, methods, and
mechanizations, recorded in your posts here.

And, what they amount to is mind which has predetermined religious
belief(s) that there is no creator, that there is no mind/intelligence
which is responsible for the creation of the universe.

We have your bizarre claims and faith that this is but one humongous
accident/magic, that these sort of things "just happen" and that matter
and life are only products of spontaneous generation.

Since this requires an incredible leap of faith and absurdly ridiculous
religious faith, you are just a nutjob who would straighten out and
educate the best thinking minds that they are gravely in error ...

But, perhaps worst of all, you expect us to swallow all that and not laugh.

.... come on ... how many other incredibly complex designs do you see
"just happening?" Do you often dig up such things which have formed out
of the elements and just lie about awaiting discovery in the dirt?

ROFLOL!

Regards,
JS


--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

John Smith[_7_] June 10th 11 02:55 PM

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On 6/10/2011 2:26 AM, HVAC wrote:
On 6/9/2011 10:58 AM, John Smith wrote:



Funny that I've never read that before.
You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you?



“That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning
power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea
of God.” -- Albert Einstein



John... Do you know what a cite is?


I just cited to you, a quote from Einstein, on the matter you inquired
about, you have google before you, do you understand how to use a search
engine?

Plug it into a search engine and find it and a bunch more on any damn
site you would like ... you imbecilic-questioning-moron!

You are a fine example of how to appear to be asking legit question, and
still able to appear as an utter moron! Good trick!


--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

Brad Guth June 10th 11 03:05 PM

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On Jun 9, 8:17*pm, Government Shill #2 wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:55:54 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote:

Most here are pretend-Atheists that only act/react exactly like Semites that
never actually believed in any wrath of God anyway?

I wish I could work out what this is meant to say!

Shill #2
--
"Me fail English? That's unpossible!"
Ralph Wiggum


Pretenders that never police their own kind make good FUD-masters.

Are you a Muslim or in favor of some religion other than Semite/
Jewish?

Don't bother to give us that usual crap that you go along with
whatever any religion or faith-based cabal has to say.

Tell us where does your income and/or benefits come from?

Since you never think for yourself; who are your peers?

http://www.wanttoknow.info/
http://translate.google.com/#
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Brad Guth June 10th 11 04:59 PM

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On Jun 10, 6:55*am, John Smith wrote:
On 6/10/2011 2:26 AM, HVAC wrote:

On 6/9/2011 10:58 AM, John Smith wrote:


Funny that I've never read that before.
You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you?


“That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning
power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea
of God.” -- Albert Einstein


John... Do you know what a cite is?


I just cited to you, a quote from Einstein, on the matter you inquired
about, you have google before you, do you understand how to use a search
engine?

Plug it into a search engine and find it and a bunch more on any damn
site you would like ... you imbecilic-questioning-moron!

You are a fine example of how to appear to be asking legit question, and
still able to appear as an utter moron! *Good trick!

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry


Actually Monsanto and a few others (including DARPA and Qinetiq) have
been doing intelligent design and/or genetic manipulations on a
regular basis. Some have been actively creating hybrid humans.

With a little radiation and/or toxins introduced into our environment
has created some rather unusual variations (though often not always
for the better), so it's entirely possible for even us humans via
directed panspermia and DNA/RNA artificial variations to create
complex life where it had never existed and probably would never have
happened on its own.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/
http://translate.google.com/#
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[email protected] June 10th 11 05:39 PM

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That thar GMO so-called ''food'' will moider you iffen you don'ts Watch
OUT!

JT (Super Talk Missy Sippy radio squawk show) is talkin to Allen Jones
right now.Allen Jones sang, Oh baby, don't you want to goooooo, to Sweet
Home Chicarrrgooooo,,,,,
Allen Jones is originally from Inverness,Missy Sippy.Blues Music, Missy
Sippy is the Home of Blues Music.To be frank with you George, I don't
care no narn nuttin bouts Blues Music.It just isn't my bag.

Y'all don't know it yet, bit I likes to call Chicago, Shecargo.
cuhulin


Olrik June 10th 11 05:59 PM

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On 2011-06-09 14:02, John Smith wrote:
On 6/9/2011 10:47 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:

...
Personally, I don't think Buddhism is a religion at all.


Quite a few apparently feel that way, since it doesn't
involve deities.

Personally, I feel that "religion" encompasses any belief
involving spiritualism in any form (i.e., anything for which
belief rather than evidence is basic), and at least one
dictionary definition seems to agree:

"A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the
teachings of a spiritual leader."

Seems specifically appropriate for Buddhism...


“That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning
power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea
of God.” -- Albert Einstein

“Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge
is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.” -- Albert Einstein

“Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”
-- Albert Einstein

“I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this
or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to
know His thoughts; the rest are

details.” -- Albert Einstein

“When the solution is simple, God is answering.” -- Albert Einstein



http://atheism.about.com/od/adolfhitlernazigermany/tp/AdolfHitlerFaithGod.htm

If that means you agree with Einstein, then I agree with you ...


Is Hitler OK for you too?

(Goodwin be damned...)

[email protected] June 10th 11 06:09 PM

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Chicagoland: Police warn of teen girls commiting strong arm robbery.
http://www.drudgereport.com
cuhulin


HVAC June 10th 11 06:36 PM

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On 6/10/2011 9:55 AM, John Smith wrote:



Funny that I've never read that before.
You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you?


“That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning
power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea
of God.” -- Albert Einstein



John... Do you know what a cite is?


I just cited to you, a quote from Einstein, on the matter you inquired
about, you have google before you, do you understand how to use a search
engine?



Instead of the histrionics, just say that you *don't* know
what a cite is and move on......





--
"OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

Brad Guth June 10th 11 07:07 PM

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On Jun 10, 10:36*am, HVAC wrote:
On 6/10/2011 9:55 AM, John Smith wrote:











Funny that I've never read that before.
You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you?


“That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning
power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea
of God.” -- Albert Einstein


John... Do you know what a cite is?


I just cited to you, a quote from Einstein, on the matter you inquired
about, you have google before you, do you understand how to use a search
engine?


Instead of the histrionics, just say that you *don't* know
what a cite is and move on......

--
"OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girlhttp://www.youtube..com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo


Your whole live is a pathetic derivative of social/political/religious
voodoo and cabal policies, doing only whatever you've been
indoctrinated to do and say. In other words, you and your remorseless
killing machine kids would have been ideal for Hitler or any other
warlord that happen to be in charge. In a few other words, you and
your robot borg like kids go along with the mainstream flow of the
moment, no matters what the consequences, doing only exactly as you
were either instructed and/or allowed to do because you either can't
or wouldn't dare think or rationalize anything through for yourself.

This must be the primary reason there's a record percentage level of
military family dysfunctions and suicides. Way to go, HVAC. Perhaps
GW Bush and Dick Cheney should have given you and your deaf, dumb and
blind "follow the leader" kids the highest medal of honor, starting
off with your butt-sucking generation getting JFK killed.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/
http://translate.google.com/#
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m II June 10th 11 07:09 PM

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They never warn about 'weak arm' robberies. I'm guessing the cops keep
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mike






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Bob Casanova June 10th 11 08:06 PM

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On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 11:00:27 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John Smith :

On 6/9/2011 10:53 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 21:20:29 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John :

On 6/8/2011 9:18 PM, Olrik wrote:

...
You will wait a long time, John Smith.

Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the speed
of light.

Yep, a vacuum full of gravitational ether, same stuff which conducts
light -- just another form (frequency) of EM ...


Einstein's "gravitational ether" was a metaphor (you can ask
Mommy what that means) and no physical medium is required
for the propagation of EM radiation.

IOW, there's no "stuff"; there's only spacetime shaped by
mass and energy.


Yes, your denial of Einstein is obvious, no matter what attempts you
make to obfuscate it and spin it ...


You know less about Einstein than you do about SR and GR; I
didn't think that was possible. And your out-of-context
quote mining, when Einstein himself said he didn't believe
in a personal deity, is indicative of your basic dishonesty.

"I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied
this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me
which can be called religious then it is the unbounded
admiration for the structure of the world so far as our
science can reveal it." (Albert Einstein, 1954)

And BTW, "spacetime" was Einstein's idea.

HTH, and HANL; I'm through trying to educate you.
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

John Smith[_7_] June 10th 11 09:04 PM

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On 6/10/2011 12:06 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 11:00:27 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John :

On 6/9/2011 10:53 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 21:20:29 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John :

On 6/8/2011 9:18 PM, Olrik wrote:

...
You will wait a long time, John Smith.

Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the speed
of light.

Yep, a vacuum full of gravitational ether, same stuff which conducts
light -- just another form (frequency) of EM ...

Einstein's "gravitational ether" was a metaphor (you can ask
Mommy what that means) and no physical medium is required
for the propagation of EM radiation.

IOW, there's no "stuff"; there's only spacetime shaped by
mass and energy.


Yes, your denial of Einstein is obvious, no matter what attempts you
make to obfuscate it and spin it ...


You know less about Einstein than you do about SR and GR; I
didn't think that was possible. And your out-of-context
quote mining, when Einstein himself said he didn't believe
in a personal deity, is indicative of your basic dishonesty.

"I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied
this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me
which can be called religious then it is the unbounded
admiration for the structure of the world so far as our
science can reveal it." (Albert Einstein, 1954)

And BTW, "spacetime" was Einstein's idea.

HTH, and HANL; I'm through trying to educate you.


Actually, spacetime = ether.

There is no such thing as time, there is only movement, distance and
position ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

Brad Guth June 10th 11 10:52 PM

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On Jun 10, 12:25*pm, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:07:06 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth
:









On Jun 10, 10:36*am, HVAC wrote:
On 6/10/2011 9:55 AM, John Smith wrote:
Funny that I've never read that before.
You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you?
“That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning
power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea
of God.” -- Albert Einstein
John... Do you know what a cite is?
I just cited to you, a quote from Einstein, on the matter you inquired
about, you have google before you, do you understand how to use a search
engine?
Instead of the histrionics, just say that you *don't* know
what a cite is and move on......

Your whole live is a pathetic derivative of social/political/religious
voodoo and cabal policies, doing only whatever you've been
indoctrinated to do and say. *In other words, you and your remorseless
killing machine kids *would have been ideal for Hitler or any other
warlord that happen to be in charge. *In a few other words, you and
your robot borg like kids go along with the mainstream flow of the
moment, no matters what the consequences, doing only exactly as you
were either instructed and/or allowed to do because you either can't
or wouldn't dare think or rationalize anything through for yourself.


This must be the primary reason there's a record percentage level of
military family dysfunctions and suicides. *Way to go, HVAC. *Perhaps
GW Bush and Dick Cheney should have given you and your deaf, dumb and
blind "follow the leader" kids the highest medal of honor, starting
off with your butt-sucking generation getting JFK killed.


Wrong newsgroup; alt.rants.free-association.non-sequiturs is
over that way...
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * - McNameless


So your being a ZNR is good for business?

Government Shill #2 June 11th 11 12:18 AM

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On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:05:06 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote:

On Jun 9, 8:17*pm, Government Shill #2 wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:55:54 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote:

Most here are pretend-Atheists that only act/react exactly like Semites that
never actually believed in any wrath of God anyway?

I wish I could work out what this is meant to say!

Shill #2
--
"Me fail English? That's unpossible!"
Ralph Wiggum


Pretenders that never police their own kind make good FUD-masters.



????????

What the...?

Please... write... in... English.

Englische bitte. Engelse asseblief. Ingles mangyaring. Anglais s'il vous plaît.
Bahasa Inggris silahkan. Inglese per favore. Engelska vänligen.




Are you a Muslim or in favor of some religion other than Semite/
Jewish?



I believe Muslims and Jews are just as deluded as the Christians. There is no
sky pixie. To Believe in any particular one is nuts.


Don't bother to give us that usual crap that you go along with
whatever any religion or faith-based cabal has to say.



You mean the truth?

No. It's obvious that you and truth parted company years ago.


Tell us where does your income and/or benefits come from?



My real income, or my shill one you fantasise about?

My real income comes from an aeronautical engineering company. We fix planes.

That's the truth, so you may now ignore it.


Since you never think for yourself; who are your peers?


My peers, Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”, are
sane people.


Shill #2
--
"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When
many people suffer from a delusion, it is called Religion."
Robert M. Pirsig

Government Shill #2 June 11th 11 12:20 AM

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On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:52:17 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote:

On Jun 10, 12:25*pm, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:07:06 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth
:









On Jun 10, 10:36*am, HVAC wrote:
On 6/10/2011 9:55 AM, John Smith wrote:
Funny that I've never read that before.
You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you?
“That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning
power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea
of God.” -- Albert Einstein
John... Do you know what a cite is?
I just cited to you, a quote from Einstein, on the matter you inquired
about, you have google before you, do you understand how to use a search
engine?
Instead of the histrionics, just say that you *don't* know
what a cite is and move on......
Your whole live is a pathetic derivative of social/political/religious
voodoo and cabal policies, doing only whatever you've been
indoctrinated to do and say. *In other words, you and your remorseless
killing machine kids *would have been ideal for Hitler or any other
warlord that happen to be in charge. *In a few other words, you and
your robot borg like kids go along with the mainstream flow of the
moment, no matters what the consequences, doing only exactly as you
were either instructed and/or allowed to do because you either can't
or wouldn't dare think or rationalize anything through for yourself.


This must be the primary reason there's a record percentage level of
military family dysfunctions and suicides. *Way to go, HVAC. *Perhaps
GW Bush and Dick Cheney should have given you and your deaf, dumb and
blind "follow the leader" kids the highest medal of honor, starting
off with your butt-sucking generation getting JFK killed.


Wrong newsgroup; alt.rants.free-association.non-sequiturs is
over that way...
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * - McNameless


So your being a ZNR is good for business?


So, if you wrote in a form that English speakers could follow, some people might
engage you in debate.

Shill #2
--
"Me fail English? That's unpossible!"
Ralph Wiggum

HVAC June 11th 11 12:21 AM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
 
On 6/10/2011 2:07 PM, Brad Guth wrote:


Your whole live is a pathetic derivative of social/political/religious
voodoo and cabal policies, doing only whatever you've been
indoctrinated to do and say. In other words, you and your remorseless
killing machine kids



My boys will be thrilled to hear that they're being
referred to as 'killing machines'.

I'll let em know.



would have been ideal for Hitler or any other



Dude... What is it with you and your bromance with Hitler?


warlord that happen to be in charge. In a few other words, you and
your robot borg like kids go along with the mainstream flow of the
moment, no matters what the consequences, doing only exactly as you
were either instructed and/or allowed to do because you either can't
or wouldn't dare think or rationalize anything through for yourself.



LOL!







--
"OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

Brad Guth June 11th 11 12:24 AM

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On Jun 10, 4:18*pm, Government Shill #2 wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:05:06 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote:
On Jun 9, 8:17*pm, Government Shill #2 wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:55:54 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote:


Most here are pretend-Atheists that only act/react exactly like Semites that
never actually believed in any wrath of God anyway?


I wish I could work out what this is meant to say!


Shill #2
--
"Me fail English? That's unpossible!"
Ralph Wiggum


Pretenders that never police their own kind make good FUD-masters.


????????

What the...?

Please... write... in... English.

Englische bitte. Engelse asseblief. Ingles mangyaring. Anglais s'il vous plaît.
Bahasa Inggris silahkan. Inglese per favore. Engelska vänligen.

Are you a Muslim or in favor of some religion other than Semite/
Jewish?


I believe Muslims and Jews are just as deluded as the Christians. There is no
sky pixie. To Believe in any particular one is nuts.

Don't bother to give us that usual crap that you go along with
whatever any religion or faith-based cabal has to say.


You mean the truth?

No. It's obvious that you and truth parted company years ago.

Tell us where does your income and/or benefits come from?


My real income, or my shill one you fantasise about?

My real income comes from an aeronautical engineering company. We fix planes.

That's the truth, so you may now ignore it.

Since you never think for yourself; *who are your peers?


My peers, Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”, are
sane people.


That's FUD-master required of each and every ZNR redneck.

HVAC June 11th 11 12:25 AM

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On 6/10/2011 3:37 PM, John Smith wrote:



Instead of the histrionics, just say that you *don't* know
what a cite is and move on......


Still failing to catch on to the use of a search engine?:



Why would *I* use a search engine in a vain attempt
to vindicate *your* unsupportable position?











--
"OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

HVAC June 11th 11 12:28 AM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
 
On 6/10/2011 4:07 PM, John Smith wrote:


"The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more
certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie
through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but
through striving after rational knowledge."

-- above by Albert Einstien

My father always recommended, when you find yourself in a hole, stop
digging! Now would be a good time for you ...



Still, my original question remains... Why do YOU believe
in god and NOT in Tinkerbell?


Clap your ****ing hands, Johnnie-Boy.






--
"OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

Brad Guth June 11th 11 12:34 AM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
On Jun 10, 4:20*pm, Government Shill #2 wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:52:17 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote:
On Jun 10, 12:25*pm, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:07:06 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth
:


On Jun 10, 10:36*am, HVAC wrote:
On 6/10/2011 9:55 AM, John Smith wrote:
Funny that I've never read that before.
You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you?
“That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning
power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea
of God.” -- Albert Einstein
John... Do you know what a cite is?
I just cited to you, a quote from Einstein, on the matter you inquired
about, you have google before you, do you understand how to use a search
engine?
Instead of the histrionics, just say that you *don't* know
what a cite is and move on......
Your whole live is a pathetic derivative of social/political/religious
voodoo and cabal policies, doing only whatever you've been
indoctrinated to do and say. *In other words, you and your remorseless
killing machine kids *would have been ideal for Hitler or any other
warlord that happen to be in charge. *In a few other words, you and
your robot borg like kids go along with the mainstream flow of the
moment, no matters what the consequences, doing only exactly as you
were either instructed and/or allowed to do because you either can't
or wouldn't dare think or rationalize anything through for yourself.


This must be the primary reason there's a record percentage level of
military family dysfunctions and suicides. *Way to go, HVAC. *Perhaps
GW Bush and Dick Cheney should have given you and your deaf, dumb and
blind "follow the leader" kids the highest medal of honor, starting
off with your butt-sucking generation getting JFK killed.


Wrong newsgroup; alt.rants.free-association.non-sequiturs is
over that way...
--


Bob C.


"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * - McNameless


So your being a ZNR is good for business?


So, if you wrote in a form that English speakers could follow, some people might
engage you in debate.

Why don't you start by setting a good example?

Tell us why someone closely associated with our CIA, Operation 40, and
even well enough known by MI that knew about Operation 40 that took
out JFK?

Are you saying that each and every tidbit of investigative information
from William Mook is bogus?

Are you saying that religion never gets involved with politics?

http://www.wanttoknow.info/
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Brad Guth June 11th 11 12:36 AM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
On Jun 10, 4:21*pm, HVAC wrote:
On 6/10/2011 2:07 PM, Brad Guth wrote:



Your whole live is a pathetic derivative of social/political/religious
voodoo and cabal policies, doing only whatever you've been
indoctrinated to do and say. *In other words, you and your remorseless
killing machine kids


My boys will be thrilled to hear that they're being
referred to as 'killing machines'.

I'll let em know.

would have been ideal for Hitler or any other


Dude... What is it with you and your bromance with Hitler?

warlord that happen to be in charge. *In a few other words, you and
your robot borg like kids go along with the mainstream flow of the
moment, no matters what the consequences, doing only exactly as you
were either instructed and/or allowed to do because you either can't
or wouldn't dare think or rationalize anything through for yourself.


LOL!


How would you and your boys have not qualified for Hitler?

http://www.wanttoknow.info/
http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”


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