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JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Jun 8, 2:18*am, wrote:
On Jun 8, 1:00*am, Olrik wrote: On 2011-06-07 14:09, John Smith wrote: On 6/7/2011 10:31 AM, Bob Casanova wrote: ... Perhaps you should read his words again so you could begin to understand that the "gravitational ether" was a convenient way to think of the deformation of spacetime by matter and energy, not a physical medium such as was demonstrated to be nonexistent by Michaelson and Morley (and others). And this is neither a tangent nor a circle; it's the heart of the matter. Einstein considers it un-ponderable, he claims to NOT understand the properties of ether, he indicates, at this present time, we can attempt to observe how in "interacts" with our matter to deduce its' properties. However, without a doubt, its' ability to support the propagation of light (and therefore RF) is a given fact ... You simply attempt to stick your ideas, visions, opinion of what ether is and have Einstein take the blame for it. And, an excellent example of the tangents and circle you navigate with your spin-doctoring ... It is both my opinion and observation that there is some kinda of interaction with ether and metal antennas (and other conductive substances, elements.) It is here that RF "rings" the ether and begins the propagation of the RF wave/particles ... the experts approach this is a much more subtle manner than the words I choose. I'll nominate you for a Nobel Prize in physics for 2012. You just proved, without a doubt, that satellite TV and GPS receivers do not work as advertised! Bravo!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well,well,well . What about all the contraptions (thousands of them ) that are littering the space around the Solar System ? Some of these buggers were launched 20-30 years ago . And they ALL communicate (unless they broke down) with ground control through empty space . Many millions of miles away . Yes sir . . .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Try billions of miles for the Voyagers, still calling home every day. |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/7/2011 1:33 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
I think Einstein, absolutely, considered a unbelievably intelligent creator a strong possibility! Even if I concede that is what Einstein meant, (I don't) all that does is move the goalpost...Who created the creator? To me, anyone who is capable of free thought and is intellectually honest will admit that they just don't know the answer to the question of what started everything. To say 'god did it', is just giving up. Correct. And unlike organized religion, science has no problem with admitting lack of knowledge, or with research to discover reality. How's that old saying go? "Science asks questions that may never be answered, religion has answers that may never be questioned". Ya, that's it. -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/7/2011 1:37 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
LOL...My youngest daughter recently announced to me that she was a Buddhist. She claimed it wasn't a religion. I asked her if the Buddha had superpowers. She said that he did. I suspect that she's confused. No superpowers (AFAIK) are ascribed to Guatama by Buddhism; he was an enlightened teacher, not a deity. I thought Buddha flew around...No? Also, didn't he sit under a tree a long time? Like, a REAL long time? -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/7/2011 1:37 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
I suspect that she's confused. No superpowers (AFAIK) are ascribed to Guatama by Buddhism; he was an enlightened teacher, not a deity. Another thing about Buddha....Didn't he run out on his wife and infant son to hang out with his buddies ? I'm just saying...... -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/8/2011 2:24 AM, HVAC wrote:
... How's that old saying go? "Science asks questions that may never be answered, religion has answers that may never be questioned". Ya, that's it. Sounds about right, they are of differing purposes, one to deduce and understand the mind of the creator and the laws he established in the universe. The other a set of rules and commandments meant to establish order over successful societies. -- Regards, JS “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the government.” -- Patrick Henry |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
John Smith wrote:
On 6/8/2011 3:19 PM, Bob Casanova wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 11:16:02 -0700, the following appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by John : On 6/7/2011 10:48 AM, Bob Casanova wrote: ... Diety? Same circle? Again? Isn't "deity" the equivalent of "God?" Is it? Is Thor "God"? How about Shiva? Zeus? Do you wish to purchase a clue? snip transference idiocy Again, I tied "deity" to "creator" and "God", and took it for granted I would be speaking who are rooted in reality ... Reality is the belief by millions, past and present, in the existence of thousands of deities, most whom aren't referred to as "God". Language isn't your first language, is it? If the set of false-pseudo-deities are thrown in, we are back again to your attempting to go out on tangents and run back to the same religious focus at the center of most of your post ... Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle... As always, the "God" is the creator which we were discussing, before your erratic changes in tangents and your circles of thought and text, was, and, is the creator mentioned by Einstein. Except for the minor fact that Einstein didnt believe in "God" and said so many times. Keith |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/8/2011 3:17 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 11:12:11 -0700, the following appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by John : On 6/7/2011 10:25 AM, Bob Casanova wrote: ... I ascribe no such properties to the vacuum; the properties are those of EM radiation, which requires no medium for propagation; in fact, any such medium, from air to glass, slows the apparent velocity of such radiation. Only in a vacuum is it equal to c. You seem to consistently miss this point. ... Yes, as you have consistently done, present your personal beliefs and opinions, attempt to spin-doctor what others have said, deny the wave/particle theory, etc. I have done none of these. It's a fact (observed and tested many times) that EM radiation requires no propagation medium, and wave-particle duality (which I don't deny, regardless of your unsupported assertion to the contrary) has absolutely zero to do with that fact. Insane, buy hey, it is a free country ... Oh, the irony... Pointing out that you are claiming exactly opposite to all recognized and accepted laws of physics pertaining to the theory of relativity and established by Einstein is in error? Only if you have not read the links which contain Einsteins exact words .... the power of morons to deny the truth has never been questioned, and you give an excellent example of it. So, we are done, you simply came to deny the truths -- you could have saved us all a lot of trouble by being honest right up front ... -- Regards, JS “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the government.” -- Patrick Henry |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/8/2011 4:09 PM, Keith Willshaw wrote:
John Smith wrote: On 6/8/2011 3:19 PM, Bob Casanova wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 11:16:02 -0700, the following appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by John : On 6/7/2011 10:48 AM, Bob Casanova wrote: ... Diety? Same circle? Again? Isn't "deity" the equivalent of "God?" Is it? Is Thor "God"? How about Shiva? Zeus? Do you wish to purchase a clue? snip transference idiocy Again, I tied "deity" to "creator" and "God", and took it for granted I would be speaking who are rooted in reality ... Reality is the belief by millions, past and present, in the existence of thousands of deities, most whom aren't referred to as "God". Language isn't your first language, is it? If the set of false-pseudo-deities are thrown in, we are back again to your attempting to go out on tangents and run back to the same religious focus at the center of most of your post ... Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle... As always, the "God" is the creator which we were discussing, before your erratic changes in tangents and your circles of thought and text, was, and, is the creator mentioned by Einstein. Except for the minor fact that Einstein didnt believe in "God" and said so many times. Keith You have ADHD too? Einstein believed in a creator, the links have been posted, anyone, and with a simple google search, can confirm that. You simply want to have a religious argument centered around some specific religion, or religions, beliefs ... I don't see anyone here who has an interest in discussing religion in place of hard physics. Perhaps your revelations and epiphanies on God would be better appreciated elsewhere? Regards, JS -- Regards, JS “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the government.” -- Patrick Henry |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/8/2011 6:52 PM, John Smith wrote:
LOL! That's funny dude. You really, truly believe that some unknown entity 'created' the universe? Really? So, who created him? Haven't you ever thought this through? Did you just wake up? Did you just become aware we don't even know what properties the ether has? And we don't know what properties your god has. Coincidence? I think not. Do you really think we have not been considering the properties of the creator of the universe also? Again, there is zero evidence for ether and zero evidence for god. Coincidence? I think not. -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/8/2011 6:55 PM, John Smith wrote:
Interesting new tact That would probably be "tack", O Wise One: "tact (t²kt) n. 1. Acute sensitivity to what is proper and appropriate in dealing with others, including the ability to speak or act without offending." "tack1 (t²k) n. ... 1. Nautical. a. To change the direction or course of a vessel: ready to tack on the captain's signal. b. To change tack: The ship tacked to starboard. 2. To change one's course of action. [Middle English tak, fastener, from Old North French taque, probably of Germanic origin.]" If not, thanks for the compliment. , you have tossed in, agree with what I am pointing out and, yet, claim it is differing ... still, just a version of the strawman argument ... how limited ... Do you have the faintest idea what you think you're talking about? You mean, you are still unaware that, the courses (directions for you) of your text appear to take the paths of a drunken sailor walking them? Zigzags, circles, tangents, etc.? Dream on ... it is plain to see ... John... You made a mistake. Admit it and move on. -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/8/2011 7:04 PM, John Smith wrote:
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle... As always, the "God" is the creator which we were discussing, before your erratic changes in tangents and your circles of thought and text, was, and, is the creator mentioned by Einstein. I understand, focus can be difficult for those suffering from ADHD, can you make notes on your hand, or something? To be so far along a path of conversation and then for you to suddenly blurt out a question covered at the very first is rather disconcerting and makes one question whether you should be involved in such conversation in the first place! We have froth! -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/8/2011 4:27 PM, HVAC wrote:
On 6/8/2011 6:52 PM, John Smith wrote: LOL! That's funny dude. You really, truly believe that some unknown entity 'created' the universe? Really? So, who created him? Haven't you ever thought this through? Did you just wake up? Did you just become aware we don't even know what properties the ether has? And we don't know what properties your god has. Coincidence? I think not. ... You mean, "Einsteins creators' properties", no, Einstein only indicated that this creator is responsible for the existence, order and laws of the universe. Einsteins text and thoughts simply demonstrate exploring the universe, that order and those laws as attempts to understand, not only the ether, but also the creator of everything ... the cutting front of physics carries this on, even today. -- Regards, JS “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the government.” -- Patrick Henry |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/8/2011 4:28 PM, HVAC wrote:
On 6/8/2011 6:55 PM, John Smith wrote: Interesting new tact That would probably be "tack", O Wise One: "tact (t²kt) n. 1. Acute sensitivity to what is proper and appropriate in dealing with others, including the ability to speak or act without offending." "tack1 (t²k) n. ... 1. Nautical. a. To change the direction or course of a vessel: ready to tack on the captain's signal. b. To change tack: The ship tacked to starboard. 2. To change one's course of action. [Middle English tak, fastener, from Old North French taque, probably of Germanic origin.]" If not, thanks for the compliment. , you have tossed in, agree with what I am pointing out and, yet, claim it is differing ... still, just a version of the strawman argument ... how limited ... Do you have the faintest idea what you think you're talking about? You mean, you are still unaware that, the courses (directions for you) of your text appear to take the paths of a drunken sailor walking them? Zigzags, circles, tangents, etc.? Dream on ... it is plain to see ... John... You made a mistake. Admit it and move on. ROFLOL! The truth, is never a mistake ... tact = tangents = circles, etc. Simply course and directions in the travels of others obfuscations and disinformation ... and the text establishing them ... Your whole focus in on religion and mistakes ... whether real of only perceived ... -- Regards, JS “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the government.” -- Patrick Henry |
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JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/8/2011 4:30 PM, HVAC wrote:
On 6/8/2011 7:04 PM, John Smith wrote: Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle... As always, the "God" is the creator which we were discussing, before your erratic changes in tangents and your circles of thought and text, was, and, is the creator mentioned by Einstein. I understand, focus can be difficult for those suffering from ADHD, can you make notes on your hand, or something? To be so far along a path of conversation and then for you to suddenly blurt out a question covered at the very first is rather disconcerting and makes one question whether you should be involved in such conversation in the first place! We have froth! Perhaps this will help in your personal quest to understand the universe, and your religious focus?: http://www.internetchurchofchrist.or...evedingod.html -- Regards, JS “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the government.” -- Patrick Henry |
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JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 2011-06-08 19:05, John Smith wrote:
On 6/8/2011 1:54 PM, Olrik wrote: ... Your argument is with Einstein, Yours is with reality, like the fact that EM waves propagate in a vacuum at the speed of light. We are awaiting your proofs that Einstein is in error, and for you to develop the logic and reason supporting it ... You will wait a long time, John Smith. Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the speed of light. |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Jun 8, 3:50*am, Father Haskell wrote:
On Jun 8, 2:18*am, wrote: On Jun 8, 1:00*am, Olrik wrote: On 2011-06-07 14:09, John Smith wrote: On 6/7/2011 10:31 AM, Bob Casanova wrote: ... Perhaps you should read his words again so you could begin to understand that the "gravitational ether" was a convenient way to think of the deformation of spacetime by matter and energy, not a physical medium such as was demonstrated to be nonexistent by Michaelson and Morley (and others). And this is neither a tangent nor a circle; it's the heart of the matter. Einstein considers it un-ponderable, he claims to NOT understand the properties of ether, he indicates, at this present time, we can attempt to observe how in "interacts" with our matter to deduce its' properties. However, without a doubt, its' ability to support the propagation of light (and therefore RF) is a given fact ... You simply attempt to stick your ideas, visions, opinion of what ether is and have Einstein take the blame for it. And, an excellent example of the tangents and circle you navigate with your spin-doctoring ... It is both my opinion and observation that there is some kinda of interaction with ether and metal antennas (and other conductive substances, elements.) It is here that RF "rings" the ether and begins the propagation of the RF wave/particles ... the experts approach this is a much more subtle manner than the words I choose. I'll nominate you for a Nobel Prize in physics for 2012. You just proved, without a doubt, that satellite TV and GPS receivers do not work as advertised! Bravo!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well,well,well . What about all the contraptions (thousands of them ) that are littering the space around the Solar System ? Some of these buggers were launched 20-30 years ago . And they ALL communicate (unless they broke down) with ground control through empty space . Many millions of miles away . Yes sir . . .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Try billions of miles for the Voyagers, still calling home every day.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There you go ! How could I ever forget the Voyagers I and II ! |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/8/2011 9:18 PM, Olrik wrote:
... You will wait a long time, John Smith. Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the speed of light. Yep, a vacuum full of gravitational ether, same stuff which conducts light -- just another form (frequency) of EM ... -- Regards, JS “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the government.” -- Patrick Henry |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 2011-06-08 09:12, John Smith wrote:
On 6/8/2011 2:24 AM, HVAC wrote: ... How's that old saying go? "Science asks questions that may never be answered, religion has answers that may never be questioned". Ya, that's it. Sounds about right, they are of differing purposes, one to deduce and understand the mind of the creator Which one? Cthulhu? You'll never understand him, John Smith. |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 2011-06-09 00:20, John Smith wrote:
On 6/8/2011 9:18 PM, Olrik wrote: ... You will wait a long time, John Smith. Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the speed of light. Yep, a vacuum full of gravitational ether, If that pleases you. And its aether, troll. same stuff which conducts light -- just another form (frequency) of EM ... You don't say... |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Jun 9, 12:20*am, John Smith wrote:
On 6/8/2011 9:18 PM, Olrik wrote: ... You will wait a long time, John Smith. Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the speed of light. Yep, a vacuum full of gravitational ether, same stuff which conducts light -- just another form (frequency) of EM ... -- Regards, JS “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the government.” -- Patrick Henry There are six (!) theories of the visible light propagation . Can you name any of them ? |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/8/2011 9:26 PM, Olrik wrote:
On 2011-06-09 00:20, John Smith wrote: On 6/8/2011 9:18 PM, Olrik wrote: ... You will wait a long time, John Smith. Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the speed of light. Yep, a vacuum full of gravitational ether, If that pleases you. And its aether, troll. same stuff which conducts light -- just another form (frequency) of EM ... You don't say... Noted, "Remained in error until the end." For what it's worth ... -- Regards, JS “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the government.” -- Patrick Henry |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 2011-06-09 00:33, John Smith wrote:
On 6/8/2011 9:26 PM, Olrik wrote: On 2011-06-09 00:20, John Smith wrote: On 6/8/2011 9:18 PM, Olrik wrote: ... You will wait a long time, John Smith. Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the speed of light. Yep, a vacuum full of gravitational ether, If that pleases you. And its aether, troll. same stuff which conducts light -- just another form (frequency) of EM ... You don't say... Noted, "Remained in error until the end." Whose quote is that from, John Smith? |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Jun 8, 3:58*pm, HVAC wrote:
On 6/8/2011 6:28 PM, Bob Casanova wrote: I thought Buddha flew around...No? Ummm... not that I know of, but I could be mistaken. Sure you're not thinking of some of the later asininities perpetrated by his followers - "yogic flying", for instance? Also, didn't he sit under a tree a long time? Like, a REAL long time? I was wrong.... The Buddha got ****ed off when someone ELSE flew around: ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Venerable Pindola Bharadvaja is one of the Buddha's sixteen disciples named in The Amitabha Sutra. Under the Buddha's auspices he attained the holy fruit of Arhat. Once when in a jubilant mood, he said to the faithful: "Do you think flying in the sky is magical? I will show you some spectacular acts." He then jumped up into the sky, FLEW all around and performed many miraculous acts. The faithful were all impressed and praised him without ceasing. The Buddha was very displeased upon learning of this incident. He asked the Venerable to come forth and admonished him, "My teaching uses morality to change others and compassion to save living beings. It does not use magic to impress and confuse people. You have misused magic today. As punishment you to stay in this world to work for more merits and to repent for this misbehavior." A second example of the Venerable Pindola Bharadvaja's ability to fly ends with the same results --- the Buddha admonishing him --- hences a possible other version of the same event is found in the Amitabha Sutra, and goes like: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ So, there we have it. Buddha don't fly. Hey! BUDDHAfly ! -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girlhttp://www.youtube..com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo Why Do... i say i say WHY DO !!! Da Buddha Have A Big Belly ? -cause- He Is Buddha-Full ! swear to buddha ~ RHF |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/8/2011 7:32 PM, John Smith wrote:
Did you just become aware we don't even know what properties the ether has? And we don't know what properties your god has. Coincidence? I think not. ... You mean, "Einsteins creators' properties", no, Einstein only indicated that this creator is responsible for the existence, order and laws of the universe. Funny that I've never read that before. You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you? -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/8/2011 7:34 PM, John Smith wrote:
John... You made a mistake. Admit it and move on. ROFLOL! The truth, is never a mistake ... tact = tangents = circles, etc. Simply course and directions in the travels of others obfuscations and disinformation ... and the text establishing them ... Your whole focus in on religion and mistakes ... whether real of only perceived ... Of course. Ether IS a religion. For instance, if you believed in ghosts, (I bet you do) *that* would amount to a religious belief. -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/9/2011 2:47 AM, HVAC wrote:
On 6/8/2011 7:32 PM, John Smith wrote: Did you just become aware we don't even know what properties the ether has? And we don't know what properties your god has. Coincidence? I think not. ... You mean, "Einsteins creators' properties", no, Einstein only indicated that this creator is responsible for the existence, order and laws of the universe. Funny that I've never read that before. You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you? “That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God.” -- Albert Einstein -- Regards, JS “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the government.” -- Patrick Henry |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Jun 9, 7:58*am, John Smith wrote:
On 6/9/2011 2:47 AM, HVAC wrote: On 6/8/2011 7:32 PM, John Smith wrote: Did you just become aware we don't even know what properties the ether has? And we don't know what properties your god has. Coincidence? I think not. ... You mean, "Einsteins creators' properties", no, Einstein only indicated that this creator is responsible for the existence, order and laws of the universe. Funny that I've never read that before. You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you? “That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God.” -- Albert Einstein -- Regards, JS “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the government.” -- Patrick Henry The only Gods worshiped by HVAC, Hagar, BDK and their rabbi Saul Levy are dark and scary, as well as sadistic and perverted, plus into inter- species sexual experimentation. http://www.wanttoknow.info/ http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/9/2011 8:31 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
... The only Gods worshiped by HVAC, Hagar, BDK and their rabbi Saul Levy are dark and scary, as well as sadistic and perverted, plus into inter- species sexual experimentation. http://www.wanttoknow.info/ http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” I still think he is lying about reading! The only reading he does is an endeavor to stick words and ideas on someone else and then attack the same material he has fraudulently developed by such! -- Regards, JS “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the government.” -- Patrick Henry |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/9/2011 7:58 AM, John Smith wrote:
... You mean, "Einsteins creators' properties", no, Einstein only indicated that this creator is responsible for the existence, order and laws of the universe. Funny that I've never read that before. You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you? “That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God.” -- Albert Einstein “Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.” “Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.” “I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details.” “When the solution is simple, God is answering.” The above provided by Albert ... -- Regards, JS “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the government.” -- Patrick Henry |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
In article 74a0283e-3065-4492-9dd6-8a9c5f196294
@q12g2000prb.googlegroups.com, says... On Jun 9, 7:58*am, John Smith wrote: On 6/9/2011 2:47 AM, HVAC wrote: On 6/8/2011 7:32 PM, John Smith wrote: Did you just become aware we don't even know what properties the ether has? And we don't know what properties your god has. Coincidence? I think not. ... You mean, "Einsteins creators' properties", no, Einstein only indicated that this creator is responsible for the existence, order and laws of the universe. Funny that I've never read that before. You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you? ?That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God.? -- Albert Einstein -- Regards, JS ?The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it?s an instrument for the people to restrain the government.? -- Patrick Henry The only Gods worshiped by HVAC, Hagar, BDK and their rabbi Saul Levy are dark and scary, as well as sadistic and perverted, plus into inter- species sexual experimentation. http://www.wanttoknow.info/ http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / ?Guth Usenet? I don't worship any gods Brad. That's for the weak minded and gullible, and your fellow Guthballian lunatics. -- BDK- Top of the government shill heap for over 10 years running! |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 15:55:16 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John Smith : On 6/8/2011 3:23 PM, Bob Casanova wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 11:23:20 -0700, the following appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by John : On 6/7/2011 10:40 AM, Bob Casanova wrote: ... He refuted your assertion, which was specifically about Einstein's religious beliefs ("I think Einstein, absolutely, considered a unbelievably intelligent creator a strong possibility!"). And no amount of complaining about it will change that. Deal with it. snip Interesting new tact That would probably be "tack", O Wise One: "tact (t²kt) n. 1. Acute sensitivity to what is proper and appropriate in dealing with others, including the ability to speak or act without offending." "tack1 (t²k) n. ... 1. Nautical. a. To change the direction or course of a vessel: ready to tack on the captain's signal. b. To change tack: The ship tacked to starboard. 2. To change one's course of action. [Middle English tak, fastener, from Old North French taque, probably of Germanic origin.]" If not, thanks for the compliment. , you have tossed in, agree with what I am pointing out and, yet, claim it is differing ... still, just a version of the strawman argument ... how limited ... Do you have the faintest idea what you think you're talking about? You mean... I mean exactly what I stated. I guess you don't... Dream on ... it is plain to see ... Your assertion that Einstein professed to believe in a personal deity, even though he specifically denied it? Yes, it's quite plain. -- Bob C. "Evidence confirming an observation is evidence that the observation is wrong." - McNameless |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 19:02:38 -0400, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by HVAC : On 6/8/2011 6:29 PM, Bob Casanova wrote: On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 05:39:44 -0400, the following appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by : On 6/7/2011 1:37 PM, Bob Casanova wrote: I suspect that she's confused. No superpowers (AFAIK) are ascribed to Guatama by Buddhism; he was an enlightened teacher, not a deity. Another thing about Buddha....Didn't he run out on his wife and infant son to hang out with his buddies ? Damfino, but what has that to do with the question? Just busting some Buddha balls is all. Personally, I don't think Buddhism is a religion at all. Quite a few apparently feel that way, since it doesn't involve deities. Personally, I feel that "religion" encompasses any belief involving spiritualism in any form (i.e., anything for which belief rather than evidence is basic), and at least one dictionary definition seems to agree: "A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader." Seems specifically appropriate for Buddhism... -- Bob C. "Evidence confirming an observation is evidence that the observation is wrong." - McNameless |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:04:12 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John Smith : On 6/8/2011 3:19 PM, Bob Casanova wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 11:16:02 -0700, the following appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by John : On 6/7/2011 10:48 AM, Bob Casanova wrote: ... Diety? Same circle? Again? Isn't "deity" the equivalent of "God?" Is it? Is Thor "God"? How about Shiva? Zeus? Do you wish to purchase a clue? snip transference idiocy Again, I tied "deity" to "creator" and "God", and took it for granted I would be speaking who are rooted in reality ... Reality is the belief by millions, past and present, in the existence of thousands of deities, most whom aren't referred to as "God". Language isn't your first language, is it? I guess it isn't. If the set of false-pseudo-deities are thrown in, we are back again to your attempting to go out on tangents and run back to the same religious focus at the center of most of your post ... Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle... As always, the "God" is the creator which we were discussing We weren't discussing a creator. We were discussing the propagation of EM radiation in a vacuum, and Einstein's lack of belief in a personal deity. HTH. -- Bob C. "Evidence confirming an observation is evidence that the observation is wrong." - McNameless |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 21:20:29 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John Smith : On 6/8/2011 9:18 PM, Olrik wrote: ... You will wait a long time, John Smith. Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the speed of light. Yep, a vacuum full of gravitational ether, same stuff which conducts light -- just another form (frequency) of EM ... Einstein's "gravitational ether" was a metaphor (you can ask Mommy what that means) and no physical medium is required for the propagation of EM radiation. IOW, there's no "stuff"; there's only spacetime shaped by mass and energy. -- Bob C. "Evidence confirming an observation is evidence that the observation is wrong." - McNameless |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/9/2011 10:42 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:
... Do you have the faintest idea what you think you're talking about? You mean... I mean exactly what I stated. I guess you don't... Dream on ... it is plain to see ... Your assertion that Einstein professed to believe in a personal deity, even though he specifically denied it? Yes, it's quite plain. My "claim(s)" are these are direct quotes from Einstein: “That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God.” -- Albert Einstein “Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.” -- Albert Einstein “Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.” -- Albert Einstein “I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details.” -- Albert Einstein “When the solution is simple, God is answering.” -- Albert Einstein But, now, I must further claim your spin tactics are to put words into others mouths, then claim they are making your supplied "claims", and claim they are false ... Further, you attempt to degrade and deny Einstein and his statements/beliefs in such spin tactics. That is all which is happening here, that is all which has been happening since you and your ilk has stuck their religion-focused-arses into the discussion, before your type came on the scene ... -- Regards, JS “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the government.” -- Patrick Henry |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
On Jun 9, 8:41*am, John Smith wrote:
On 6/9/2011 8:31 AM, Brad Guth wrote: ... The only Gods worshiped by HVAC, Hagar, BDK and their rabbi Saul Levy are dark and scary, as well as sadistic and perverted, plus into inter- species sexual experimentation. *http://www.wanttoknow.info/ *http://translate.google.com/# * Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” I still think he is lying about reading! The only reading he does is an endeavor to stick words and ideas on someone else and then attack the same material he has fraudulently developed by such! -- Regards, JS “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the government.” -- Patrick Henry It's classic FUD-master stuff. |
JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing wasFAKE
On 6/9/2011 10:49 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:
... I guess it isn't. If the set of false-pseudo-deities are thrown in, we are back again to your attempting to go out on tangents and run back to the same religious focus at the center of most of your post ... Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle... As always, the "God" is the creator which we were discussing We weren't discussing a creator. We were discussing the propagation of EM radiation in a vacuum, and Einstein's lack of belief in a personal deity. HTH. My "claim(s)" are these are direct quotes from Einstein: “That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God.” -- Albert Einstein “Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.” -- Albert Einstein “Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.” -- Albert Einstein “I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details.” -- Albert Einstein “When the solution is simple, God is answering.” -- Albert Einstein But, now, I must further claim your spin tactics are to put words into others mouths, then claim they are making your supplied "claims", and claim they are false ... Further, you attempt to degrade and deny Einstein and his statements/beliefs in such spin tactics. That is all which is happening here, that is all which has been happening since you and your ilk has stuck their religion-focused-arses into the discussion, before your type came on the scene ... Your circular disinformation, personal attacks, obfuscation, etc. simply requires the same response, as I gave last time ... -- Regards, JS “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the government.” -- Patrick Henry |
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