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Old December 2nd 03, 11:02 PM
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Frank Dresser wrote:

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Democracy is no more perfect than the human race. The guys who wrote
and approved the Constitution and Bill of Rights knew individual rights
could get voted away.

I'm not sure why some Homeowner's Associations have a problem with
religious monuments, flags or flagpoles, or the First Amendment rights
most of take for granted. The people who advocate such positions seem
remarkably shy in public, especially around reporters.

When I first heard of the George Andres case, ...


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Frank, regarding your comments on a Democracy I'd like to make a simple
observation.

We in the USA do NOT live in a Democracy, thank God! Contrary to what
the newspapers say, TV moguls say, the Democratic Political Party says,
and numerous candidates for political office say ... We live in a
Representative Republic!

A Democracy is the most tyrannical form of government!!!

Deacon Dave, W1MCE

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Old December 3rd 03, 01:44 AM
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IMHO...a tyrannical form of government would be something from the
Hitler regime, not the Democracy we are blessed with!

Dave Shrader wrote:


Frank Dresser wrote:

SNIP
...
Democracy is no more perfect than the human race. The guys who wrote


and approved the Constitution and Bill of Rights knew individual rights
could get voted away.

I'm not sure why some Homeowner's Associations have a problem with
religious monuments, flags or flagpoles, or the First Amendment rights
most of take for granted. The people who advocate such positions seem
remarkably shy in public, especially around reporters.

When I first heard of the George Andres case, ...



SNIP

Frank, regarding your comments on a Democracy I'd like to make a simple
observation.

We in the USA do NOT live in a Democracy, thank God! Contrary to what
the newspapers say, TV moguls say, the Democratic Political Party says,
and numerous candidates for political office say ... We live in a
Representative Republic!

A Democracy is the most tyrannical form of government!!!

Deacon Dave, W1MCE


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Old December 3rd 03, 02:51 AM
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:44:35 GMT, Sid wrote:

IMHO...a tyrannical form of government would be something from the
Hitler regime, not the Democracy we are blessed with!


Of course, we here in the US do not live in a democracy. Rather, our
form of government is a representational republic.

Russ


Dave Shrader wrote:


Frank Dresser wrote:

SNIP
...
Democracy is no more perfect than the human race. The guys who wrote


and approved the Constitution and Bill of Rights knew individual rights
could get voted away.

I'm not sure why some Homeowner's Associations have a problem with
religious monuments, flags or flagpoles, or the First Amendment rights
most of take for granted. The people who advocate such positions seem
remarkably shy in public, especially around reporters.

When I first heard of the George Andres case, ...



SNIP

Frank, regarding your comments on a Democracy I'd like to make a simple
observation.

We in the USA do NOT live in a Democracy, thank God! Contrary to what
the newspapers say, TV moguls say, the Democratic Political Party says,
and numerous candidates for political office say ... We live in a
Representative Republic!

A Democracy is the most tyrannical form of government!!!

Deacon Dave, W1MCE


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Old December 3rd 03, 04:31 AM
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Sid wrote:
IMHO...a tyrannical form of government would be something from the
Hitler regime, not the Democracy we are blessed with!


The democracy that voted to end the life of Socrates was
pretty tyrannical. How would you like a democracy voting
to end your life?
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Old December 3rd 03, 05:05 AM
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"Dave Shrader" wrote in message
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We in the USA do NOT live in a Democracy, thank God! Contrary to what
the newspapers say, TV moguls say, the Democratic Political Party says,
and numerous candidates for political office say ... We live in a
Representative Republic!


No. We live in a Democracy that once _was_ a Representative Republic. Name
any admentment and I can post a law that violates it that the courts have
upheld (ok, with the exception of the quartering of soildiers!!).




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Old December 3rd 03, 04:11 PM
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Midwest Kid wrote:
We live in a Democracy that once _was_ a Representative Republic.


If we live in a Democracy, Al Gore, who got the majority of the popular
vote, would be President. The Electorial College is certainly not
democratic. The fact that we vote for representatives rather than
voting on laws directly is certainly not democratic.
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You are speaking of Al Gore, the guy who claims to have invented the
internet. The guy who didn't even carry his own state of Tennessee.

He couldn't tie his shoes without being told how to or permission.

This thread isn't about politics. Get over it.

Cecil Moore wrote:

Midwest Kid wrote:
We live in a Democracy that once _was_ a Representative Republic.


If we live in a Democracy, Al Gore, who got the majority of the popular
vote, would be President. The Electorial College is certainly not
democratic. The fact that we vote for representatives rather than
voting on laws directly is certainly not democratic.
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Old December 3rd 03, 05:48 AM
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"Dave Shrader" wrote in message
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Frank, regarding your comments on a Democracy I'd like to make a

simple
observation.

We in the USA do NOT live in a Democracy, thank God! Contrary to what
the newspapers say, TV moguls say, the Democratic Political Party

says,
and numerous candidates for political office say ... We live in a
Representative Republic!

A Democracy is the most tyrannical form of government!!!

Deacon Dave, W1MCE


I dunno. Democracy usually works out as well as can be expected. It
works out well enough that Americans sometimes forget about the
potential tyranny of the majority. Having some of our rights written
down is a useful reminder.

Frank Dresser


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Old December 3rd 03, 08:38 AM
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"Dave Shrader" wrote in message
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Frank Dresser wrote:

SNIP
...
Democracy is no more perfect than the human race. The guys who wrote
and approved the Constitution and Bill of Rights knew individual rights
could get voted away.

I'm not sure why some Homeowner's Associations have a problem with
religious monuments, flags or flagpoles, or the First Amendment rights
most of take for granted. The people who advocate such positions seem
remarkably shy in public, especially around reporters.

When I first heard of the George Andres case, ...


SNIP

Frank, regarding your comments on a Democracy I'd like to make a simple
observation.

We in the USA do NOT live in a Democracy, thank God! Contrary to what
the newspapers say, TV moguls say, the Democratic Political Party says,
and numerous candidates for political office say ... We live in a
Representative Republic!



Getting closer to the truth, but exactly what, besides redundant, is a
"representative republic"? Perhaps you meant to say "constitutional
republic".

Ed
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Ed Price wrote:
Getting closer to the truth, but exactly what, besides redundant, is a
"representative republic"? Perhaps you meant to say "constitutional
republic".


In a pure democracy, the voters vote directly on the laws. In a
representative republic, the voters vote on a representative who
votes directly on the laws. In a constitutional republic, some laws
are off limits both to the voters and to the representatives, i.e.
inalienable rights (at least until the constitution is ammended).
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