From: (RedOctober90)

Name ANY Islamic nation whoose people enjoy a half decent quality of
living? Hmmm? All that comes out of these places are violence and
terror and oppression. Islam is a highly racist religion.

Brunei
Saudi Arabia
United Arab Emirates
Qatar

And even Christianity has been used to incredibly racist ends. Remember, Klan
meetings start with a prayer.



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From: (RedOctober90)

Name ANY Islamic nation whoose people enjoy a half decent quality of
living? Hmmm? All that comes out of these places are violence and
terror and oppression. Islam is a highly racist religion.


Brunei
MWB - Brunei ?
- Which is a Hereditary Monarchy that has NO Elections.
- Where Shari'a Law supersedes civil law.
- Where Women and Children ARE Property [.]
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/bx.html
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Saudi Arabia
MWB - Saudi Arabia ?
- Which is a Hereditary Monarchy that has NO Elections.
- Which is Governed according to Shari'a
[ Islamic Law for both Muslims and Non-Muslims. ]
- Where Women and Children ARE Property [.]
- Who has 25% Un-Employment for It's Own Citizens (Males).
- Where 35% of the Labor Force Population are 'foreign guest workers'.
- Where 30% of Women are Illiterate.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/sa.html
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United Arab Emirates
- Which are a group of Hereditary Monarchies that have NO Elections.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/tc.html
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Qatar
- Which is a Hereditary Monarchy - but has some Elections.
- Islamic Law (Shari'a) dominates family and personal matters.
[ Translation: Women and Children ARE Property. ]
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/qa.html
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MWB - The Topic is SPAIN and ISLAM (or the Islam-O-Baddies)

Christianity and the Klan are NON-SEQUITUR [.]
http://www.ucomics.com/nonsequitur/
Check-Out "Non-Sequitur" the Commic Strip )

And even Christianity has been used to incredibly racist ends.

MWB - NOT ON TOPIC [.]
[ Think, You Can Do Better Then This... ]
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Remember, Klan meetings start with a prayer.

MWB - NOT ON TOPIC [.]
[ Think, You Can Do Better Then This... ]
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From: (RHF)

MWB - The Topic is SPAIN and ISLAM (or the Islam-O-Baddies)

Christianity and the Klan are NON-SEQUITUR [.]
http://www.ucomics.com/nonsequitur/
Check-Out "Non-Sequitur" the Commic Strip )

And even Christianity has been used to incredibly racist ends.

MWB - NOT ON TOPIC [.]
[ Think, You Can Do Better Then This... ]
.
Remember, Klan meetings start with a prayer.

MWB - NOT ON TOPIC [.]
[ Think, You Can Do Better Then This... ]

No, he said Islam is inherently racist. I was simply pointing out that any
religion can be abused by racists. Klan meetings do, indeed, start with
prayers. Chrisitanity, for centuries, was used to justify non-democratic
governments. My point has not been refuted by you, RHF. It isn't Islam that is
bad, it's the way people choose to use it. Christianity, from a historical
perspective, provides plenty of examples of how it's been abused.


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From: (RHF)

MWB - The Topic is SPAIN and ISLAM (or the Islam-O-Baddies)

Christianity and the Klan are NON-SEQUITUR [.]
http://www.ucomics.com/nonsequitur/
Check-Out "Non-Sequitur" the Commic Strip )

And even Christianity has been used to incredibly racist ends.

MWB - NOT ON TOPIC [.]
[ Think, You Can Do Better Then This... ]
.
Remember, Klan meetings start with a prayer.

MWB - NOT ON TOPIC [.]
[ Think, You Can Do Better Then This... ]

No, he said Islam is inherently racist. I was simply pointing out that any
religion can be abused by racists. Klan meetings do, indeed, start with
prayers. Chrisitanity, for centuries, was used to justify non-democratic
governments. My point has not been refuted by you, RHF. It isn't Islam that is
bad, it's the way people choose to use it. Christianity, from a historical
perspective, provides plenty of examples of how it's been abused.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
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MWB - In general, I would Agree )

Beware of Despotic Leaders - Who Proclaim - In the Name of God !

I would not view Islam as 'inherently' "Racist".

However, I do view Islam as 'inherently' "Sexist". Particularly when
Islam is 'fused' with local Tribal and Cultural Laws and Labeled as
the 'Will of God' Allah.

~ RHF

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From: (RedOctober90)

Name ANY Islamic nation whoose people enjoy a half decent quality of
living? Hmmm? All that comes out of these places are violence and
terror and oppression. Islam is a highly racist religion.


Brunei
MWB - Brunei ?
- Which is a Hereditary Monarchy that has NO Elections.
- Where Shari'a Law supersedes civil law.
- Where Women and Children ARE Property [.]
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/bx.html
.
.
Saudi Arabia
MWB - Saudi Arabia ?
- Which is a Hereditary Monarchy that has NO Elections.
- Which is Governed according to Shari'a
[ Islamic Law for both Muslims and Non-Muslims. ]
- Where Women and Children ARE Property [.]
- Who has 25% Un-Employment for It's Own Citizens (Males).
- Where 35% of the Labor Force Population are 'foreign guest workers'.
- Where 30% of Women are Illiterate.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/sa.html
.
.
United Arab Emirates
- Which are a group of Hereditary Monarchies that have NO Elections.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/tc.html
.
.
Qatar
- Which is a Hereditary Monarchy - but has some Elections.
- Islamic Law (Shari'a) dominates family and personal matters.
[ Translation: Women and Children ARE Property. ]
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/qa.html

The directive was "Name ANY Islamic nation whoose people enjoy a half
decent quality of living". Not, "Name ANY Islamic nation which is a
democracy" or "Name ANY Islamic nation where human rights are
universally respected, but "Name ANY Islamic nation whoose people
enjoy a half decent quality of living".

Four were named that meet the specified criteria.

If you don't like it, your complaint is with RedOctober90,
not Michael Bryant.

FW

I'm a bit tired of people claiming "islam is a peaceful religion"
"christianity is a peaceful religion" This is all total bullcrap and
EVERYONE with any sense of reality KNOWS this. These are both racist
and violent religions.... I stay atheist... you never hear about
atheists mass slaughtering people over some "god".

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I'm a bit tired of people claiming "islam is a peaceful religion"
"christianity is a peaceful religion" This is all total bullcrap and
EVERYONE with any sense of reality KNOWS this. These are both racist
and violent religions.... I stay atheist... you never hear about
atheists mass slaughtering people over some "god".

..


RO90,

"I stay atheist... you never hear about atheists mass
slaughtering people over some "god"."

YES - That is true, True. TRUE !

Atheists do not Murder and/or Kill in the name of 'god'.

Atheist simply Murder and/or Kill their fellow Human Beings
in what every "Just Cause" that they 'believe in' or are
Simply using to further their Personal Ambition.

Stalin - Communism * Estimate 40 Million Killed

Hitler - NAZI - Fascism * Estimate 16 Million Killed

Pol Pot - Communism * Estimate 4 Million Killed

Mao - Cultural Revolution - Communism * Estimate 32 Million Killed

* Note: Murdered Directly, Starved to Death, or Force into
Slave Labor Camps to Work and Die.

ADD a few Acient Killers like Ghengis Khan, Kublai Khan,
Atilla the Hun and Tamerlane.

Check-Out Hyper-History:
http://www.hyperhistory.com/online_n...n2/hist_6.html


Just the Facts ~ RHF

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Naziism and 20th century communisim were functionally religions--irrational
belief systems compelling adherence to murderous intolerance.

Norm Lehfeldt

(RHF) wrotf:

Atheist simply Murder and/or Kill their fellow Human Beings
in what every "Just Cause" that they 'believe in' or are
Simply using to further their Personal Ambition.

Stalin - Communism * Estimate 40 Million Killed

Hitler - NAZI - Fascism * Estimate 16 Million Killed

Pol Pot - Communism * Estimate 4 Million Killed

Mao - Cultural Revolution - Communism * Estimate 32 Million Killed

* Note: Murdered Directly, Starved to Death, or Force into
Slave Labor Camps to Work and Die.

ADD a few Acient Killers like Ghengis Khan, Kublai Khan,
Atilla the Hun and Tamerlane.

Check-Out Hyper-History:
http://www.hyperhistory.com/online_n...n2/hist_6.html


Just the Facts ~ RHF

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"RedOctober90" wrote:
I stay atheist... you never hear about
| atheists mass slaughtering people over some "god".

Hmmmmm....millions of dead in the Soviet Union, China,
Kampuchea, gulags filled, political prisoners executed in
Cuba....and all in the name of the god of atheistic humanism.

Smells rather hypocritical and blatantly self - aggrandizing,
to me. But hey, if the you like patting yourself on the back,
while at the same time lunching with Atheistic fellow - travellers,
by all means, it's a free country.

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, Minnesota

He shoots......he scores!

Great post, Stephen.

-- Stinger
"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
.net...

"RedOctober90" wrote:
I stay atheist... you never hear about
| atheists mass slaughtering people over some "god".

Hmmmmm....millions of dead in the Soviet Union, China,
Kampuchea, gulags filled, political prisoners executed in
Cuba....and all in the name of the god of atheistic humanism.

Smells rather hypocritical and blatantly self - aggrandizing,
to me. But hey, if the you like patting yourself on the back,
while at the same time lunching with Atheistic fellow - travellers,
by all means, it's a free country.

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, Minnesota