Al Arduengo wrote:

Michael Bryant wrote:

Here is a quotation from GWBush this last Friday in the Rose Garden.
I'm not sure why it hasn't received more play:

"There's a lot of people in the world who don't believe that people
whose skin color may not be the same as ours can be free and
self-govern. I reject that. I reject that strongly. I believe that
people who practice the Muslim faith can self-govern. I believe that
people whose skins aren't necessarily a different color than white can
self-govern."

The racism here is not subtle. In my mind, it portrays how the
President sees the world.

I think it is important to be careful how you quote this. Yes, taken
out of context it seems that he is somehow racially biased. However,
the general problem as I understand it is that many folks believe the US
is somehow diminishing the equality of other races and that is how
protests and media coverage spin it. In the case of the quote above, he
was likely trying to answer directly to the concerns. Many think the
Americans hate Muslims and therefore hate middle easterners ergo darker
skinned people. Looks to me like he was merely saying that as a
majority white nation (and I mean that with respect to SKIN COLOR ONLY)
we *do* believe that other races are equally capable of governing
themselves. It is not a rhetorical statement. It is answering a
question in my opinion.

Best,
-Al

Don't waste you time attempting to reason with MB, you can't reason with
an unreasonable person.

= = = ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote in message
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I am troubled by having a President who is
quick to define the US as a "white nation."

Where and when did he do that Fat Boy?


See the original post in the thread. Rose Garden, last Friday. Qoute in the
original post.

Learn to read, Steve!

MWB - Learn to Tell the Truth Yourself - Once Again You Repeat the LIE !

MWB - The Mighty White Brother claims that President Bush said
"White Nation".

But in-fact MWB presents the Liberal LIES and Democrat DISTIRTION
for all to read one more time.

The President George "W" Bush 'never' used the words "White Nation".

However, "MWB" Did Use Those Words Exact Words "WHITE NATION"
in this Post; in in his continued effort to Promote Racial
Hatred in the USofA.

MWB - The Mighty White Brother You are Caught In Another LIE [.]


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= = = "T. Early" wrote in message
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"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
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Here is a quotation from GWBush this last Friday in the Rose Garden.
I'm not
sure why it hasn't received more play:


"There's a lot of people in the world who don't believe that people
whose
skin color may not be the same as ours can be free and self-govern.
I reject
that. I reject that strongly. I believe that people who practice the
Muslim
faith can self-govern. I believe that people whose skins aren't
necessarily
a different color than white can self-govern."


The racism here is not subtle. In my mind, it portrays how the
President sees
the world.


IMO, it's beyond subtle. The characterization in you header goes past
what was actually said. That's apparent from the face of the
remarks. I guess you're entitled to spin it the way you have, but the
fact that you need to deviate from the actual words themselves to read
something into the remark indicates that saying that the racism is
"not subtle" is a big stretch.

TE,

"The racism here is not subtle.

In my mind,

it portrays how the President sees the world."

The Problem is NOT what the President Said or what was Written.

The Problem is NOT how the President See the World.

As "MWB" so correctly says "In my mind" [ That Being MWB's "Mind" ]

There in lies the root of the Problem MWB's Mind

MWB's Own Personal Bias and Self-Hatred.

"MWB" Did Use Those Words Exact Words "WHITE NATION"
in his subsequent Posts.

TBL: This is all part of MWB's continued effort to Promote Racial
Hatred in the USofA and Blame it all on Republicans and Conservatives.

ibtm ~ RHF

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Michael 'I cain't see' Bryant wrote:

From: N8KDV

Learn to read Fat Boy... he didn't state or define the USA as a 'White
Nation'
at all!


Even Al, when defending Bush, thought that Bush had assumed that the US was a
majority white nation.

Here's the quote, again. Read real carefully, Stevie;

"There's a lot of people in the world who don't believe that people whose
skin color may not be the same as ours can be free and self-govern. I reject
that. I reject that strongly. I believe that people who practice the Muslim
faith can self-govern. I believe that people whose skins aren't necessarily
a different color than white can self-govern."

Ours = white. Can you read that well, Steve?

I can read probably better than you Fat Boy... it was YOU who stated that you
were almost totally blind.

MB--Why do you support these Islamic *******s? You've been reading the
wrong books. As a professor you need to do more research. You should study
the Koran. You know nothing about Islam. You are a fool. You are on the
wrong side. A trip to falugee would do you good.

"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
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From: Al Arduengo

I think it is important to be careful how you quote this. Yes, taken
out of context it seems that he is somehow racially biased. However,
the general problem as I understand it is that many folks believe the US
is somehow diminishing the equality of other races and that is how
protests and media coverage spin it. In the case of the quote above, he
was likely trying to answer directly to the concerns. Many think the
Americans hate Muslims and therefore hate middle easterners ergo darker
skinned people. Looks to me like he was merely saying that as a
majority white nation (and I mean that with respect to SKIN COLOR ONLY)
we *do* believe that other races are equally capable of governing
themselves. It is not a rhetorical statement. It is answering a
question in my opinion.

though i see what you're saying, Al, I am troubled by having a President
who is
quick to define the US as a "white nation." And the President's sentiments
seem
to be divergent with many posters in this newsgroup who suggest that
Muslims,
in general, are a group of people that cannot co-exist with the rest of
the
world.


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mrhangster wrote:

MB--Why do you support these Islamic *******s? You've been reading the
wrong books. As a professor you need to do more research. You should study
the Koran. You know nothing about Islam. You are a fool. You are on the
wrong side. A trip to falugee would do you good.

You must understand that Bryant is mentally ill.

But that's no reason not to send the retard to falugee anyway!

= = = ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote in message
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From: N8KDV

Learn to read Fat Boy... he didn't state or define the USA as a 'White
Nation'
at all!


Even Al, when defending Bush, thought that Bush had assumed that the US was a
majority white nation.


MWB - First of all Bush said what he said.

However, MWB your re-writing of what he said says a lot about You "MWB".

MWB - According to the Last US Census of 2000.

The USofA's Primary Population Group
(a majority of 62.6% or More)
is classified as being . . .

Guess What ? ? ?

MWB - Yes those nasty Words "White"

Total Population (All Races)
SOURCE= http://tinyurl.com/39p62
Count = 281,421,906 = 100.0%

White Alone or in Combination with 'other' Races
Count = 216,930,975 = 77.1%

White Alone
Count = 211,460,626 = 75.1%

White in Combination with 'other' Races
Count = 5,470,349 = 1.9%

NOT White Alone or in Combination with 'other' Races
Count = 64,490,931 = 22.9%

Hispanic or Latino (of any race)
SOURCE= http://tinyurl.com/3f7nt
Count = 35,305,818 = 12.5%
SubSet of Hispanics 'claiming Two or More Races
Count = 6,826,228 = 2.4%

MWB - So in "Your" Racist America the average, plain and simple
'white folks' make up 62.6% which is about "5-out-of-8" members
of the Total Population of the USofA.

NOTE: Thankfully the Vast Majority of these average 'white folks'
are NOT Hateful Racist like Yourself. Who Continuely Promote
Race Based Hate between the Races. One Wonders Why ?

TBL: So is it reasonable to say that the US is a 'majority white nation'.

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= = = ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote in message
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From: "Mark S. Holden"

It's a safe bet that phrase wasn't crafted by a professional writer, but I'd
think you'd agree with him.

What he said boils down to "those who feel non whites are incapable of
governing themselves are wrong."

And I think both of us agree with that sentiment despite some of the right-wing
anti-Muslim bigotry spewed in this NG.

I still think the President is clealy showing that, in his mind, he
characterizes the US as a white nation.

MWB - We need NOT read President Bush's Mind; when we have you very
words that proclaim "the US as a white nation."

The "White Nation" Mental Defect is Yours MWB - Not President Bush's.

MWB - It is Your Sick Mind that is 'inserting' the "Racism"
into the simple remarks made by President Bush.

Everyone has read your Words and 'now' Clearly Knows You for
the Twisted Racist that You are MWB.

MWB - You can not Excape Your Own Words.

MWB - The Truth is there for Everyone to See - Plain and Simple.

MWB - You Stand Convicted by Your Own Words as a Promoter of
Race Hatred here in this NewsGroup [.]

MWB - The Truth Will Set You Free ~ RHF
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And you know that there are all kinds of folks in this
NG biting their tongues to keep from saying, "Yes, it is!"

Have a good day, Mark!



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RHF wrote:

= = = ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote in message
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From: "Mark S. Holden"

It's a safe bet that phrase wasn't crafted by a professional writer, but I'd
think you'd agree with him.

What he said boils down to "those who feel non whites are incapable of
governing themselves are wrong."

And I think both of us agree with that sentiment despite some of the right-wing
anti-Muslim bigotry spewed in this NG.

I still think the President is clealy showing that, in his mind, he
characterizes the US as a white nation.

MWB - We need NOT read President Bush's Mind; when we have you very
words that proclaim "the US as a white nation."

The "White Nation" Mental Defect is Yours MWB - Not President Bush's.

MWB - It is Your Sick Mind that is 'inserting' the "Racism"
into the simple remarks made by President Bush.

Everyone has read your Words and 'now' Clearly Knows You for
the Twisted Racist that You are MWB.

MWB - You can not Excape Your Own Words.

MWB - The Truth is there for Everyone to See - Plain and Simple.

MWB - You Stand Convicted by Your Own Words as a Promoter of
Race Hatred here in this NewsGroup [.]

MWB - The Truth Will Set You Free ~ RHF

But will MWB ever free up the truth?

wrote:


Bush Sees the US as a White Nation


Unfortunately, he's wrong. It is no longer a White nation.

I wish it was. It used to be. Now it's a multi-racial cesspool headed for the
trash heap of history.

Your RACE is your nation.


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