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Michael Bryant wrote:
From: "Mark S. Holden" It's a safe bet that phrase wasn't crafted by a professional writer, but I'd think you'd agree with him. What he said boils down to "those who feel non whites are incapable of governing themselves are wrong." And I think both of us agree with that sentiment despite some of the right-wing anti-Muslim bigotry spewed in this NG. Sorry for the delay in replying, but once a thread turns into a Steve & Mike urination contest, I get selective about which messages I read. Didn't find this until I went back to see if you replied. Racism and religious intolerance aren't left/right issues. They're moral ones. While most Muslims probably are good peace loving people, they don't get nearly as much news coverage as the terrorists. Good news doesn't sell papers or drive up ratings. So most of what we hear about Muslims is related to terrorism. Louis Farrakhan doesn't strike me as a main stream spokesman for Islam either. I still think the President is clealy showing that, in his mind, he characterizes the US as a white nation. I see nothing to indicate President Bush is racist. Look at his cabinet, look at his judicial nominees. An example of liberal racists would be the people who decided to prevent a vote on Estrada in part because he's hispanic. Another would be those who criticize conservative black people because they don't think the way a black person is "supposed" to think. Personally, I think you show prejudice when you equate conservatives with racists or bigots. Interestingly, the Republican I've heard the most buzz about as a possible Presidential candidate for 2008 is Dr. Rice. And you know that there are all kinds of folks in this NG biting their tongues to keep from saying, "Yes, it is!" You may have hit the nail on the head when you said "all kinds" - but not in the way you intended. But I also think they're just a vocal minority, and some of the remarks are puffed up for "entertainment value". Have a good day, Mark! You too. Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) |
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Michael Bryant wrote:
From: "Mark S. Holden" An example of liberal racists would be the people who decided to prevent a vote on Estrada in part because he's hispanic. Mark, this is pretty outlandish. Democrats didn't reject him because he was hispanic. They rejected because of his ultra-conservatism. Voting for him because he was a hispanic would've been racist. In the documents the Democrats inadvertently kept on a public drive, there was mention of concern about letting his nomination get to a vote because he is hispanic. I think Sen. Durbin wrote that one. Personally, I think you show prejudice when you equate conservatives with racists or bigots. Possibly, but I stand by my conclusion that oyu'll find a lot more openly racist bigots on the conservative side than on the liberal side. As a sample, look at this very NG. We'll need to agree to disagree on that one. I really think it's a case of finding what you're looking for. Interestingly, the Republican I've heard the most buzz about as a possible Presidential candidate for 2008 is Dr. Rice. I might vote for her. But I don't think the republicans would ever give her the nomination. Never. I don't know. She's sharp as a tack. She's got a lot of fans in conservative circles. It didn't really help him in the 2000 primaries, but polls on vote.com after Republican debates consistently showed people thought Dr. Keyes was winning the debates. My guess is people who participated in those polls were probably among the more conservative members of the Republican party. But I also think they're just a vocal minority, and some of the remarks are puffed up for "entertainment value". In other words, those openly racist conservatives don't really mean it? Yep. I applaud your telepathic abilities to understand what conservative REALLY mean.... Eh, I think some of the crap gets said primarily to get folks like you riled up. And you tend to presume anyone who disagrees with you is a conservative even if they haven't expressed conservative views. But you're a good guy. I enjoy talking to you. If all conservatives were as nice as you this world would be a much better place. Thanks. Most of the conservatives I run into are nice people. Take it easy, You too. Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) |
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"Michael Bryant" wrote in message ... From: N8KDV RHF wrote: MWB - You Stand Convicted by Your Own Words as a Promoter of Race Hatred here in this NewsGroup [.] But will MWB ever free up the truth? Oh yeah, too people known for their respect of the truth, RHF and Lare. Too right-wingers on a mission..... That would be two, not too there professor. |
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"Michael Bryant" wrote in message ... Mark, this is pretty outlandish. Democrats didn't reject him because he was hispanic. They rejected because of his ultra-conservatism. Voting for him because he was a hispanic would've been racist. So, God forbid, Kerry wins in Nov. and all of his nominations are blocked, do you think the Dems won't be playing the race card? Its one of the things liberals do best. Possibly, but I stand by my conclusion that oyu'll find a lot more openly racist bigots on the conservative side than on the liberal side. As a sample, look at this very NG. A few NG posters hardley makes a sample. Again your conclusion is drawn from very little factual evidence. In other words, those openly racist conservatives don't really mean it? Yep. I applaud your telepathic abilities to understand what conservative REALLY mean.... But you have all the answers right? So what do you use, tarot cards, crystal ball, Dear Abby? But you're a good guy. I enjoy talking to you. If all conservatives were as nice as you this world would be a much better place. And if all liberals were NOT like you, this world would be a much better place. |
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"Michael Bryant" wrote in message ... So, just on a common-sense basis, do you really believe most Klansman are more likely to be liberals than conservatives? If so, I'd like to see the FACTS you base that on! I'd guess most Klansmen, the few that are left, are anti-government, whether its liberals or conservatives. God help me, but I base it on what they actually say. If conservatives in here use racist rhetoric, I think it's a reasonable inference to conclude that they are exactly what their words paint them to be. Do you have a different scoring system? So you're saying all the conservatives in here are racist? Well, whether liberal or conservative, I think the world would be a nicer place if we had fewer folks, like you and Steve, that think it's so cool to be an aggressive asshole when you're hiding behind a monitor. And your just so nice and reserved right? You're the Ahole here, ask anyone. I'd wish you a nice day, but none of us even know your name. Hardly worth responding to. The name is Mike, have a good one. |
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