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Old June 29th 04, 06:36 AM
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"Tom Betz" wrote in message
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"Paul Jensen" wrote in
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I think it was Boortz who said he was on Frankin. He also said

never
again.


Franken caught Boortz in a lie about having offered Franken to

guest-host
Boortz's show (back before AA existed), and saying that Franken had
refused because Boorts wouldn't allow him to control the phone

callers.

Franken called Boortz on the lie while on the phone with him,

playing the
tape of Boortz lying, then forcing Boortz to admit that he had lied.

I
heard the segment. Boortz came off as a lying, blowhard putz.


Lying, blowhard putz? Speaking of Michael Moore, did you ever pin
down the alleged "lie" by Fred Barnes that had the humor-challenged
all in a tizzy?



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Old June 29th 04, 08:41 PM
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Quoth "T. Early" in news:cbqv44$t64$1
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Lying, blowhard putz? Speaking of Michael Moore, did you ever pin
down the alleged "lie" by Fred Barnes that had the humor-challenged
all in a tizzy?


Last I heard, Barnes never called Franken back.

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charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.

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Old June 30th 04, 05:32 AM
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(RHF) wrote in message ...
In the past when former president Clinton was president.
NPR referred to him as President Clinton.

Now what does NPR do when referring to "President Bush"
they use negative omissions and detractive code words:
simply referring to the President as "Bush" or 'mister' "Bush"
and the "Bush" 'administration'.


Documentation, please--and don't just copy from NewsMax.

The President is generally always referred to in the first reference
as "President ---" and in the second reference as "Mr. ---." That's
basic AP Stylebook.

I did a search on npr.org and found 3,518 pages that have on them
"President Bush." Granted, some of them may refer to George H.W. Bush
and are likely not transcripts of stories that are audio hyperlinked,
but it seems to me that NPR is following basic stylebook on references
to the President.

And at NPR, as at many other journalistic organizations, the President
is always heard last in a story, no matter what party he belongs to.
That's also pretty much Journalism 101.

NPR is the primary propaganda organ for the Liberal Media ELITE [.]


Then why are the extreme left-wing nutsos at FAIR continually
attacking NPR for right-wing bias? Why does Amy Goodman of Pacifica
refer to NPR as part of "corporate media?" Why did I hear a bunch of
hardcore lefties at a forum I once attended *boo* a mention of NPR?

As far as I'm concerned, if the extremist wackos on both sides hate
NPR, they must be doing something right.

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Old July 1st 04, 01:15 AM
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"Mark Jeffries" wrote in message
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(RHF) wrote in message

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In the past when former president Clinton was president.
NPR referred to him as President Clinton.

Now what does NPR do when referring to "President Bush"
they use negative omissions and detractive code words:
simply referring to the President as "Bush" or 'mister' "Bush"
and the "Bush" 'administration'.


Just another troll with a bad memory. NPR, and many other news organisations, will
use all three forms just to avoid being repetitive. Regardless of the person or
party holding the office. Same goes for Representatives and Senators. Shheeessshhh!

Could we PLEASE refrain from keeping these useless, wasteful and off-topic threads
(although this one is less so than most of the crap that's been droning on-and-on for
the last two weeks) from bloating this newsgroup? I, and I'm sure quite a bunch
more, would appreciate it! By now you should know who is and who is not worth
engaging. Use that knowledge to do the best thing, which is to just ignore them. Or
put them in your kill file. They can't talk to themselves (although there may be a
few who don't quite meet that criteria, either)!
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Old July 1st 04, 04:19 PM
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= = = (Mark Jeffries) wrote in message
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(RHF) wrote in message ...
In the past when former president Clinton was president.
NPR referred to him as President Clinton.

Now what does NPR do when referring to "President Bush"
they use negative omissions and detractive code words:
simply referring to the President as "Bush" or 'mister' "Bush"
and the "Bush" 'administration'.


Documentation, please--and don't just copy from NewsMax.

The President is generally always referred to in the first reference
as "President ---" and in the second reference as "Mr. ---." That's
basic AP Stylebook.

I did a search on npr.org and found 3,518 pages that have on them
"President Bush." Granted, some of them may refer to George H.W. Bush
and are likely not transcripts of stories that are audio hyperlinked,
but it seems to me that NPR is following basic stylebook on references
to the President.

And at NPR, as at many other journalistic organizations, the President
is always heard last in a story, no matter what party he belongs to.
That's also pretty much Journalism 101.

NPR is the primary propaganda organ for the Liberal Media ELITE [.]


Then why are the extreme left-wing nutsos at FAIR continually
attacking NPR for right-wing bias?


MJ,

Because to use your words they are "extreme left-wing nutsos at FAIR"

NPR may be Left-Wing and Liberal but it is not Extreme [.]
..
..
Why does Amy Goodman of Pacifica refer to NPR
as part of "corporate media?"


You feel that NewsMax is not creditable but then cite Pacifica ?
..
..
Why did I hear a bunch of hardcore lefties at
a forum I once attended *boo* a mention of NPR?


Because to use your words they are "hardcore lefties"

TIP - Find a Forum were you fit-in and do NOT view the other
members as either 'extreme' or 'hardcore' Lefties or Righties.
..
..

As far as I'm concerned, if the extremist wackos on both sides hate
NPR, they must be doing something right.


So Two Wrongs Do Make a Right ) ~ RHF

..



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Old July 2nd 04, 10:49 PM
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On 2 Jul 2004 14:52:13 GMT, RHF ("RHF") writes:

RHF "Lock and Load the Latest" - New York Times - July 1, 2004
RHF NYT= http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/01/op...01THU4.html?th
RHF The National Rifle Association has begun a three-hour daily
RHF show on satellite radio, a transparent exercise in
RHF propaganda disguised as journalism.

The NRA, an organization that has been in business for over 100 years,
is an established national media outlet which has up till now been
involved in television and magazines (it has more subscribers than,
for example, "Newsweek"). Now they've added issue-oriented radio.

That's different from Air America, whose programming seems to
be entirely devoted to a particular canndidate (George Bush).

The only thing in common is that they are both are engaging in
what is supposed to be the most protected class of free speech.

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Old July 2nd 04, 11:36 PM
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Listening to Air America here in NY on WLIB 1190
- Ads for Home Depot, Playboy ( ! ! ! ) Touting the interview with
Michael Moore in The July Issue
Many other ads;
Gets bothersome there are so many..

_ SOOOO....
A Business 101 Graduate could take these
and other ad contracts to the bank,
arrange a line of credit
& keep the whole thing going
Finding advertisers doesn't seem to be a problem for them
Plus
They are on Sirius XM ( Sat radio )
- So they stand to be around for a while


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Old July 2nd 04, 11:53 PM
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In article , dxAce
writes:


Aye, there's the rub! There are no Liberal's who do anything whatsoever
competently.


Utter BS, Steve;

Michael Moore has the Highest Grossing Film in The U.S. This week;
- & he's NOT someone you'd call a neocon..

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Old July 3rd 04, 12:10 AM
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In article , dxAce
writes:


Aye, there's the rub! There are no Liberal's who do anything whatsoever
competently.


OK Steve, Here's The List..

"
There are no Liberal's who do anything whatsoever
competently.


( GONNNNNGGG ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ;-)


Al Jourgensen
Alec Baldwin
Alyssa Milano
Ani DiFranco
Barbra Streisand
Ben Affleck
Bobby Fischer
Bruce Springsteen
Carlos Santana
Cher
Chrissie Hynde
Danny Glover
Dave Matthews
David Clennon
Dixie Chicks
Dustin Hoffman
Ed Asner
Ed Harris
Edward Norton
Eminem
Eric Roberts
Ethan Hawke
George Carlin
George Clooney
Gore Vidal
Gwyneth Paltrow
Harry Belafonte
Jane Fonda
Janeane Garofalo
Jennifer Aniston
Jessica Lange
Jethro Tull
John Cusack
John Mellencamp
Johnny Depp
Joy Behar
Julia Roberts
Kate Hudson
Larry Hagman
Madonna
Margaret Cho
Martin Scorsese
Martin Sheen
Maynard Keenan
Michael Moore
Mike Farrell
Moby
Oliver Stone
Pearl Jam
Richard Gere
Rickie Lee Jones
Robert Altman
Robin Williams
Sandra Bernhard
Sandy Duncan
Sean Penn
Spike Lee
Susan Sarandon
Tim Robbins
Uma Thurman
Viggo Mortensen
Whoopi Goldberg
Willie Nelson
Woody Harrelson

- Your words, not mine..
Dan

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Old July 3rd 04, 02:50 AM
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Diverd4777 wrote:

In article , dxAce
writes:


Aye, there's the rub! There are no Liberal's who do anything whatsoever
competently.


Utter BS, Steve;

Michael Moore has the Highest Grossing Film in The U.S. This week;
- & he's NOT someone you'd call a neocon..


Nope, I'd call him a liar and a fabricator.

This week? I thought perhaps Spiderman was outselling him this week.

At any rate, you are somehow trying to equate $$$ with the truth. Consider
this: StarWars made a lot of money also, but it too had nothing to do with
the truth.

Steve
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