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Old June 22nd 04, 05:33 AM
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"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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In article ,
dxAce wrote:
Hardly... if there was indeed a market, then they would not be in the

financial
mess they appear to be in.


There seems to be a market, at least right now. Al Franken beat Rush
Limbaugh in New York.


No, he appeared to have beaten Rush in one age group in April. However, in
the May ratings trends, Rush returns to beat Franken by about three to one
overall, and WABC to beat WLIB by more than 300%.

Your figures are last month's Arbitrend data, these are this month's.


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Old June 22nd 04, 07:29 PM
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[snip}

They paid a
million bucks to the stations in Chicago and New York for almost nothing.

[snip]

If I had been paying attention, I would have wrote:

They paid a million bucks to the stations in Chicago and Los Angeles for
almost nothing.

Frank Dresser


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Old June 22nd 04, 02:46 AM
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dxAce wrote ...

Maybe they need to take lessons from Rush, Hannity, Boortz, etc..... now those
guys are making money.


http://www.boortz.com/ - Good audio clip library - don't miss the
"Boo Gah Shah" one.
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Old June 22nd 04, 03:30 AM
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FD,

"If they can't do it right, somebody else will."

RUSH DOES IT "RIGHT" !

The Ultra-Liberals at Air {Head} America
need to Focus on Doing It "LEFT" Big Time !

~ RHF
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"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
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Story on Drudge says Air America is strapped for cash, and had less than

they claimed when they started. Looks like maybe the check for Chicago did
bounce.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash8.htm



Actually, the check never had a chance to bounce. Arthur Liu at
Multicultural was told the check was stopped, so he shouldn't even bother
depositing it.

Matt Drudge has been taking a pointed interest in the Air America story,
possibly because some numbnut at Air America wrote the infamous "Liu-ser"
article ridiculing Drudge and Liu.



"The WALL STREET JOURNAL reports on Monday: Several employees say they still
haven't been reimbursed for the costs of attending the New York launch."
"Many of Air America's investors and executives say they thought the network
had raised more than $30 million, based on assurances from its owners,
Guam-based entrepreneurs Evan M. Cohen and Rex Sorensen."

"In fact, Air America had raised only $6 million, Mr. Cohen concedes"


What were the investors thinking about, just before the network started up?
Were they throwing their money into the Democratic party? The "Tyco
Birthday Party"?

"On March 30, the night before Air America went on the air, the liberal
radio network threw itself a $70,000 party at Manhattan's hip Maritime
Hotel."

This story isn't new but it does add some details to the known problems Air
America's management had. They announced a possible deal with new investors
over a month ago. I have no idea how that's going.

Air America may have been started up by incompetent businessmen, but they
have shown there's a market for that kind of radio. If they can't do it
right, somebody else will.

Frank Dresser

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Old June 22nd 04, 06:18 AM
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I'm beginning to think that RHF stands for "Rush Has Fans".

Bad joke but I just couldn't resist.

Regards

John Barnard

RHF wrote:

FD,

"If they can't do it right, somebody else will."

RUSH DOES IT "RIGHT" !

The Ultra-Liberals at Air {Head} America
need to Focus on Doing It "LEFT" Big Time !

~ RHF
.
.
= = = "Frank Dresser" wrote in message
= = = ...
"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Story on Drudge says Air America is strapped for cash, and had less than

they claimed when they started. Looks like maybe the check for Chicago did
bounce.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash8.htm



Actually, the check never had a chance to bounce. Arthur Liu at
Multicultural was told the check was stopped, so he shouldn't even bother
depositing it.

Matt Drudge has been taking a pointed interest in the Air America story,
possibly because some numbnut at Air America wrote the infamous "Liu-ser"
article ridiculing Drudge and Liu.



"The WALL STREET JOURNAL reports on Monday: Several employees say they still
haven't been reimbursed for the costs of attending the New York launch."
"Many of Air America's investors and executives say they thought the network
had raised more than $30 million, based on assurances from its owners,
Guam-based entrepreneurs Evan M. Cohen and Rex Sorensen."

"In fact, Air America had raised only $6 million, Mr. Cohen concedes"


What were the investors thinking about, just before the network started up?
Were they throwing their money into the Democratic party? The "Tyco
Birthday Party"?

"On March 30, the night before Air America went on the air, the liberal
radio network threw itself a $70,000 party at Manhattan's hip Maritime
Hotel."

This story isn't new but it does add some details to the known problems Air
America's management had. They announced a possible deal with new investors
over a month ago. I have no idea how that's going.

Air America may have been started up by incompetent businessmen, but they
have shown there's a market for that kind of radio. If they can't do it
right, somebody else will.

Frank Dresser

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Old June 23rd 04, 06:41 PM
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Some day, business students will study the failure of the Air America
network.

Though so many reasons can be explored, it's my opinion that the primary
reason for the network's eventual fall has to do with its attempt to start
out on top.

You can't simply target Rush on a national scale and expect to beat him.
Rush is a consummate radio broadcasting professional who started at the very
bottom and worked his way to the very top. He didn't start out trying to
force his political opinion on any one. He took his top 40 superjock persona
into the talk radio segment, and people enjoyed the product. Through hard
work and perseverance, his show grew exponentially. He's not a conservative
who happens to be a radio entertainer. He's a radio entertainer who happens
to be a conservative. So could liberal talk radio succeed? Of course. Howard
Stern and Don Imus are two fine examples who come to mind.

Radio is not an easy medium to conquer. It's not simply TV without pictures.
To really succeed in radio requires one to start at the bottom, listen to
radio every waking hour, find mentors to help you develop your personal
style, and prepare to work very hard for very little money. You'll probably
go through a couple of spouses pretty quickly.

Some day, there will be someone who beats Rush. But I don't think it will
come from an organization like Air America. Instead, I think it will come
from an individual who is in love with radio and can't stand being #2.



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