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Old February 23rd 05, 03:34 PM
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In article ,

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"BDK" wrote in message
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In article ,


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By now all of you know that Dr. Gene Scott has passed, but guess

what?
All of US are going to pass away also. It is appointed unto man

once to
die AND AFTER THAT THE JUDGMENT! Heb. 9:27

The righteous are REQUIRED to tell the wicked they are going to die.
Eze. 3:18

The Christian is better off dead because he is with Christ and no

longer
concerned about possibly failing and denying Christ here on earth.
Phillipians 1:23.


So you claim..proof.

The bible is not proof Al! A book can say anything.


The non-Christian needs to be greatly concerned about dying before
accepting Christ for there is NO OTHER WAY to the Father in heaven.
John 14:6, KJV, "Jesus saith unto him, I am THE way, THE truth, and

THE
life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

So you claim, I'm not really worried, I'll just be worm food, like

you.
You probably aren't going anywhere...except into the ground.


Some of you rejoice at the death of Dr. Gene Scott. Many Christians
rejoice with you for, if he was truly a Christian (only God knows

the
heart), he is far better off than he ever was here. ... Even before

he
got prostate cancer. See Phil. 1:23.


I thought he was amusing. Most all the other preachers are slimeballs

at
best, so I'm not rejoicing he's dead, but I don't think there's any
reason to be happy about it...and prostate cancer can be a bad way to
go...

Right here I could interject the same word you used above. Proof. How do

you
know its a bad way to go? You gone that way? No. You know someone who

has?
Maybe yes. The same could be said for Dr. Scott. If you ever knew any
Christians, you would see their serenity in their leaving this world.

Ask
the doctors. They can tell you that Christians on the whole have more

of a
grip on death than those who dont know God. They can tell you the horror

on
the faces of those who die not knowing what will happen to them after

they
are gone. So throwing that word "proof" around shouldnt make you feel

as
smug as you think you are.
B




Smug?? No, just realistic.


I knew two people that had prostate cancer, one is still alive, having
had to be castrated, and then radiated and chemoed to the point he
almost died from it alone. But somehow, he made it. Tough guy.

The other guy had no signs of any problems, then started having pain
when standing up. He was loaded with cancer that had spread to his
spine. The cancer was so widespread they didn't even try to do chemo, he
was too far gone. He spent his last 3 weeks or so in bed, hooked to a
morphine drip that never put out enough to really stop the pain. He was
a christian, and he wasn't "serene" in the least. Maybe he had doubts..

Other christians may be more serene, but the placebo effect can account
for that. If you believe in something strong enough, it can do
"wonders".

But the most "serene" person I ever saw that was dying was a friend's
dad, who was an atheist from a young age, like myself. He was ok with
it, "Hey, 80 isn't that bad, longer than I ever expected!" He just kind
of faded away. Boy, would he have been ****ed if he knew his sisters got
together and had a minister do a memorial service before the "real" one.
The after funeral "wake" was about as tense as I have ever seen, one of
the sister's kids blabbed the whole deal as the real service ended. It
was entertaining.

BDK


To dismiss changed lives as a result of the teachings of the Bible is
smugness. You don't know most peoples testimonies. And it is their
testimony. You cant deny it. You don't have to believe it, but that doesn't
make you right. After all, they are the ones claiming a changed live. If
you don't believe it, fine, go your way, but you don't need to be putting
them down. You don't have the authority to speak for them.
B





Neither do you....

BDK
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Old February 23rd 05, 12:05 AM
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BDK wrote:

In article ,
says...
By now all of you know that Dr. Gene Scott has passed, but guess what?
All of US are going to pass away also. It is appointed unto man once to
die AND AFTER THAT THE JUDGMENT! Heb. 9:27

The righteous are REQUIRED to tell the wicked they are going to die.
Eze. 3:18

The Christian is better off dead because he is with Christ and no longer
concerned about possibly failing and denying Christ here on earth.
Phillipians 1:23.



So you claim..proof.

The bible is not proof Al! A book can say anything.


This is an interesting verse, for it brings up a mention of the time
when Christians would only be baptized on their deathbeds so they
wouldn't have time to sin before they died and thus jeapordize (sp?)
their entry into heaven.


The non-Christian needs to be greatly concerned about dying before
accepting Christ for there is NO OTHER WAY to the Father in heaven.
John 14:6, KJV, "Jesus saith unto him, I am THE way, THE truth, and THE
life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."


So you claim, I'm not really worried, I'll just be worm food, like you.
You probably aren't going anywhere...except into the ground.


Just like Gene Scott.


Some of you rejoice at the death of Dr. Gene Scott. Many Christians
rejoice with you for, if he was truly a Christian (only God knows the
heart), he is far better off than he ever was here. ... Even before he
got prostate cancer. See Phil. 1:23.


I thought he was amusing. Most all the other preachers are slimeballs at
best, so I'm not rejoicing he's dead, but I don't think there's any
reason to be happy about it...and prostate cancer can be a bad way to
go...


My grandfather died of prostate cancer, and he suffered greatly before
he died. I don't think that there's much a person can do to justify that
sort of suffering being put upon them.


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Old February 23rd 05, 02:07 AM
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running dogg wrote:

My grandfather died of prostate cancer, and he suffered greatly before
he died. I don't think that there's much a person can do to justify that
sort of suffering being put upon them.


Some people would rather die trusting God than to live a bit longer
trusting in Doc - or Festus -- or Matt Dillon! ;-)

Do you know where the Medical Deists (MD's) got their symbol? I'll give
you a hint. Numbers 21 and II Kings 18 and it represented Jesus Christ
the healer, who also suffered and died for us. It seems to me the
medical industry is very much attempting to play God.

In an accident they're mighty good folks to have around. But when it
comes to the drugging of America, and the rest of the world, I expect
we'd all be better off living right, eating right, and using herbs which
are God made than using man made drugs. But then that's like elbows --
everyone has two! :-)
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Old February 23rd 05, 02:21 AM
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"Al Patrick" wrote in message
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running dogg wrote:

My grandfather died of prostate cancer, and he suffered greatly before
he died. I don't think that there's much a person can do to justify that
sort of suffering being put upon them.


Some people would rather die trusting God than to live a bit longer
trusting in Doc - or Festus -- or Matt Dillon! ;-)

Do you know where the Medical Deists (MD's) got their symbol? I'll give
you a hint. Numbers 21 and II Kings 18 and it represented Jesus Christ
the healer, who also suffered and died for us. It seems to me the
medical industry is very much attempting to play God.

In an accident they're mighty good folks to have around. But when it
comes to the drugging of America, and the rest of the world, I expect
we'd all be better off living right, eating right, and using herbs which
are God made than using man made drugs. But then that's like elbows --
everyone has two! :-)


My god. I read that post without first seeing who sent it, and thought
cuhulin had finally gotten himself a spell-checker.


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Old February 23rd 05, 03:26 AM
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Honus wrote:
My god. I read that post without first seeing who sent it, and thought
cuhulin had finally gotten himself a spell-checker.


You should see ALL my messages before I spell-check them! Sometimes I
misspell Al and I've known him for many decades! ;-) Sometimes I
misspell them so badly the spell checker won't even hint at what I
thought I meant -- just indicate it's wrong. Then I have to go to
Webster's dictionary, a book of synonyms or even a thesaurus and find
another word!


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Old February 23rd 05, 04:13 AM
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In a message under the heading of " The passing of Dr. Scott & r.r.s.
merrymaking" BDK wrote:

But god made them, just like botulism, right?


Check this out:

Yes, I know it isn't botulism. (There I go changing the subject again!)
It's Trichinosis I'm mentioning here. However, there's something very
interesting about it. ALL the animals mentioned happen to be animals
that God told us NOT TO EAT. (See God's dietary laws in the Bible, also
known as clean and unclean meats. I believe the bear is in the UNclean
category.)

"Trichinosis is a parasitic disease that results from eating undercooked
meat, most frequently pork, which contains cysts of Trichinella
spiralis. T. spiralis can be found in pork, bear, fox, rat, horse and
lion meat."

Clipped from: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/000631.htm
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Old February 23rd 05, 04:43 AM
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"BDK" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...
running dogg wrote:

My grandfather died of prostate cancer, and he suffered greatly before
he died. I don't think that there's much a person can do to justify

that
sort of suffering being put upon them.


Some people would rather die trusting God than to live a bit longer
trusting in Doc - or Festus -- or Matt Dillon! ;-)

Do you know where the Medical Deists (MD's) got their symbol? I'll give
you a hint. Numbers 21 and II Kings 18 and it represented Jesus Christ
the healer, who also suffered and died for us. It seems to me the
medical industry is very much attempting to play God.

In an accident they're mighty good folks to have around. But when it
comes to the drugging of America, and the rest of the world, I expect
we'd all be better off living right, eating right, and using herbs which
are God made than using man made drugs. But then that's like elbows --
everyone has two! :-)


Wow, I'm shocked Al! A post that isn't off the wall, jew hatin BS! The
only thing about the herbal stuff is that some of them are not what the
"health" industry tries to say they are. A lot of them are poisonous, or
have the same negatives a lot of drugs have, without any regulation.

But god made them, just like botulism, right?

BDK


Yes He did, and we are the ones that decide if its useful as medicine or
not. Sometimes man makes some pretty stupid assessments, especially where
nature is concerned.
B


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Old February 24th 05, 01:59 AM
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Al Patrick wrote:
running dogg wrote:


Do you know where the Medical Deists (MD's) got their symbol? I'll give
you a hint. Numbers 21 and II Kings 18 and it represented Jesus Christ
the healer, who also suffered and died for us. It seems to me the
medical industry is very much attempting to play God.


It's actually the caduceus, the staff of Hermes, which
is a more aesthetically pleasing version of the staff
of Asclepius, the Greek god of healing. The scripture
you refer to mentions a healing staff of Moses and doesn't
really have anything to do with to Jesus at all, since he hadn't made
much of an appearance during the period covered by Numbers
or II Kings.
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Old February 24th 05, 03:48 PM
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Larry Ozarow wrote:

Al Patrick wrote:

Do you know where the Medical Deists (MD's) got their symbol? I'll
give you a hint. Numbers 21 and II Kings 18 and it represented Jesus
Christ the healer, who also suffered and died for us. It seems to me
the medical industry is very much attempting to play God.


It's actually the caduceus, the staff of Hermes, which
is a more aesthetically pleasing version of the staff
of Asclepius, the Greek god of healing. The scripture
you refer to mentions a healing staff of Moses and doesn't
really have anything to do with to Jesus at all, since he hadn't made
much of an appearance during the period covered by Numbers
or II Kings.


Read it carefully, THEN decide. Also, ever heard of 'types' and/or
'antitypes'?


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