Hmmm, so according to Passport to World Band Radio, the E1 was
manufactured at Bharat Electronics in Bangalore.

Bharat Electronics website:
http://www.bel-india.com/Website/Asp/HomePage.htm

FAS profile on Bharat Electronics:
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/india/contractor/bel.htm

Jai Hind.

junius

if wonder if Eton didn't like the poor construction quality of the 800 and
jumped ship to another manufacturer



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Hmmm, so according to Passport to World Band Radio, the E1 was
manufactured at Bharat Electronics in Bangalore.

Bharat Electronics website:
http://www.bel-india.com/Website/Asp/HomePage.htm

FAS profile on Bharat Electronics:
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/india/contractor/bel.htm

Jai Hind.

junius

mike maghakian wrote:

if wonder if Eton didn't like the poor construction quality of the 800 and
jumped ship to another manufacturer


They probably didn't want to take a chance people would associate the
new radio with the with the old factory.

That and the fact that they've shown they WILL use another manufacturer
if needed puts them in a much better bargaining position when
negotiating the next pricing round.

Hopefully the Indian sets are so noticeably better that they will become
long term partners. It's always nicer buying stuff made in a
democratic country than made in a totalitarian fascist State.

China stopped being communist when the government adopted the Corporate
State.system of commerce.It's still a police state, but the politicos
are getting very wealthy.







mike

Yeah, well, what was kind of interesting in the Federation of American
Scientist profile was the first paragraph:

"Bharat Electronics Ltd. (BEL) was established in 1954 to meet the
Defence needs of the Government of India. Three units of BEL, located
in Bangalore, Hyderabad & Ghaziabad, were included on the list of
Indian entities that were subjected to US sanctions announced after the
May 1998 nuclear tests. Added to the US sanctions, these units are also
faced with passive sanctions from some European countries."


In any case, the U.S. sanctions against BEL were subsequently removed.

Business profile: http://in.biz.yahoo.com/p/b/baje.bo.html

In article ,
mike maghakian wrote:
if wonder if Eton didn't like the poor construction quality of the 800 and
jumped ship to another manufacturer

Eton is probably like all the other US "import 'em and sell 'em"
consumer electronics "Brand"s. Every product in their line may
be made by a different factory.

And the reverse, every similar unit in a store may be made
by the same factory, despite what company's name is on the box.

One example I know of was the Koss CD/Cassette Boombox I had. The
same unit was available from Radio Shack, RCA, and several other
labels. Lurking in sci.electronics.repair a couple of years ago,
just about everybody's VCR from Sony down to Walmart trash was the
same Funai unit with a bit different packaging.

One check is to look at the FCC ID number that anything that has
a microcomputer in it has to have to show that it was tested for
radio interference. Often the importer won't bother to have their
own check done and will just leave the unit with the factory's
registry number.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

junius wrote:
Hmmm, so according to Passport to World Band Radio, the E1 was
manufactured at Bharat Electronics in Bangalore.

Bharat Electronics website:
http://www.bel-india.com/Website/Asp/HomePage.htm

FAS profile on Bharat Electronics:
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/india/contractor/bel.htm

Jai Hind.

junius

Welcome to the world of global manufacturing and trading. In this case
whether the label says "Grundig" or "Eton" is really no indication of
where it was made. At one time Grundig made radios first in Germany
then in Portugal. The owners of the Grundig and Eton names now sell
radios that were assembled in one or more locations with parts that
come from all manner of countries.

This is nothing new. Those two giants of Japan, Seiko and Sony both
make many of their products in off-shore locations with parts from
suppliers in many countries. Take a good close look at the country of
origin for many parts in your car - you might be surprised at how
multinational your vehicle really is.

Is there a specific reason we should be concerned that "Eton" or
"Grundig" radios are made in one or more of locations like: India,
China, Singapore, Taiwan, Mexico, Brazil?

How many radios are actually manufactured in Amrtica now,two or three?
How long will that last? I suppose most of the parts are made in other
countries.I believe that is something to be concerned about.China will
be selling Chinese manufactured cars and vans in U.S.A.in a year or two
at about thirty to forty percent less price than similar American
manufactured vehicles,thanks to Malcom Bricklin.
cuhulin

wrote:
How many radios are actually manufactured in Amrtica now,two or three?

If you look under the top of an "American" radio I think you will find
most if not all of it's components come from Taiwan or China.

How long will that last? I suppose most of the parts are made in other
countries.I believe that is something to be concerned about.China will
be selling Chinese manufactured cars and vans in U.S.A.

Why are products from India or China any more of a concern than cars
(or any other product) from Japan, Korea, Germany, Sweden or Mexico.
The Japanese showed the Americans and Germans how to make cars, cameras
and optics after WWII. Now it is time for someone else to step up as
the low price high quality producer.

in a year or two
at about thirty to forty percent less price than similar American
manufactured vehicles,thanks to Malcom Bricklin.

I would not touch anything that Bricklin had any involvement in.

cuhulin

Right, well, to jump in with some commentary now, it is a rather dismal
state of affairs...how the market for portable shortwaves has been
inundated with these cheap Chinese portables. All the Kchibos, Kaitos,
jWins, whatever other uninspiring offerings are out there...

A real race for the bottom. Nowadays, it seems that competition among
new offerings in this class of radio is, unfortunately, mostly on the
basis of price, rather than quality/features. Amazing (perhaps not)
that there are buyers for these substandard radios, many of which must
have been designed for the domestic market in China, given their
substandard performance and atrocious appearance.

Perhaps one or two of the Degens are marginally acceptable...I dunno.
I do ideed miss the days not too long back when there was a relatively
vibrant competition between Sony, Grundig, and Sangean (even Panasonic
and Magnavox were in the mix)...and you could expect regular upgrades
in your favorite line of radio...with true improvements in
performance/features. The day the Sony ICF-SW7600GR is discontinued
will indeed be a sad day...

junius


wrote:
How many radios are actually manufactured in Amrtica now,two or three?
How long will that last? I suppose most of the parts are made in other
countries.I believe that is something to be concerned about.China will
be selling Chinese manufactured cars and vans in U.S.A.in a year or two
at about thirty to forty percent less price than similar American
manufactured vehicles,thanks to Malcom Bricklin.
cuhulin

junius wrote:
Right, well, to jump in with some commentary now, it is a rather dismal
state of affairs...how the market for portable shortwaves has been
inundated with these cheap Chinese portables. All the Kchibos, Kaitos,
jWins, whatever other uninspiring offerings are out there...

A real race for the bottom. Nowadays, it seems that competition among
new offerings in this class of radio is, unfortunately, mostly on the
basis of price, rather than quality/features. Amazing (perhaps not)
that there are buyers for these substandard radios, many of which must
have been designed for the domestic market in China, given their
substandard performance and atrocious appearance.

Perhaps one or two of the Degens are marginally acceptable...I dunno.
I do ideed miss the days not too long back when there was a relatively
vibrant competition between Sony, Grundig, and Sangean (even Panasonic
and Magnavox were in the mix)...and you could expect regular upgrades
in your favorite line of radio...with true improvements in
performance/features. The day the Sony ICF-SW7600GR is discontinued
will indeed be a sad day...

The problem isn't a lack of supply of good radios. The problem is that
there is little demand for pricey shortwave radios because there are
few serious shortwave hobbyists. The lack of demand caused Grundig
(the real one), Panasonic, Sony, Kenwood, Yaesu, Icom to stop supplying
the really interesting radios that we all enjoy.

Unfortunately the Sony 7600 is probably going to be cancelled in the
near future.