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Old December 16th 03, 12:13 AM
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It's not "Best Wishes" but "Best Regards"


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Old December 16th 03, 01:13 AM
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Well to me 73`sss and "HANDLE" reminds me of CB`ers, on the ham bands
and I hate hearing it.

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It's not "Best Wishes" but "Best Regards"




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Old December 16th 03, 01:44 AM
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In article ,
"Marty B." wrote:

Well to me 73`sss and "HANDLE" reminds me of CB`ers, on the ham bands
and I hate hearing it.

"jerry franks" wrote in message
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It's not "Best Wishes" but "Best Regards"





It's just 73 and on CW is is

73 de AA5VU AR (or SK)
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Old December 16th 03, 04:14 PM
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The first authentic use of 73 is in the publication The National Telegraphic
Review and Operators' Guide, first published in April 1857. Keep in mind it
started with telegraphic code use. Number codes were used by telegraphers
for common phrases.
These abbreviations were used in a manner similar to Q signals today.

Here's a partial list of old telegraphic number abbreviations: 1 – Wait 2 -
Important business 3 - What is the time? 6 - I am ready 7 - Are you ready?
12 - Do you understand? 13 - I understand 14 - What is the weather? 17 -
Lightning here 19 - Form 19 train order (used by RR) 21 - Stop to eat 23 -
All copy 24 - Repeat this back 30 - No more, end 31 - Form 31 train order
(used by RR) 44 - Answer promptly by wire 73 - Best regards 88 - Love and
kisses 92 - Deliver promptly 134 - Who is at the key?

For the History of 73 see URL:
http://ac6v.com/73.htm#73

It then becomes apparent that it is 73 NOT 73's, but many say 73's and
everyone knows what is meant.

HANDLE has been used by Hams for many many years (more recently by CBers) --
See
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/thesaurus
And see that handle is synonymous with NAME and NICKNAME
Maybe from the old west -- Whatts yore handle podner ???
But on VHF -- many advise -- talk like you talk on a telephone -- NAME HERE
IS
But since so many hams use handle -- it is an accepted ham jargon term.

As is lots of others -- brick, bird, bug, cans, twisted pair, roger,
wallpaper, uncle Charlie, wilco, and lots more at URL:
http://ac6v.com/jargon.htm

The FIRST PERSONAL is a recent invasion on the Ham bands and comes from CB
Radio. Makes old time Hams shudder.

All told -- various disciplines have their own jargon and it is best to be
familiar with them and don't fight it -- you won't change it for sure.


--
73 From The Wilderness Keyboard


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Old December 19th 03, 01:02 AM
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:14:26 -0800, "Keyboard In The Wilderness"
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It then becomes apparent that it is 73 NOT 73's, but many say 73's and
everyone knows what is meant.


No apostrophe in 73s, guy!

THat would be possessive.

"The property of the 73" just makes, no sense.

Please use 73s

NOT 73's - it annoys me when people use an un-necessary apostrophe!

How is THAT for pedantry, guys?




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Old December 19th 03, 10:38 PM
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Very nice reference. Thanks.

Dick - W6CCD

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:14:26 -0800, "Keyboard In The Wilderness"
wrote:

The first authentic use of 73 is in the publication The National Telegraphic
Review and Operators' Guide, first published in April 1857. Keep in mind it
started with telegraphic code use. Number codes were used by telegraphers
for common phrases.
These abbreviations were used in a manner similar to Q signals today.

Here's a partial list of old telegraphic number abbreviations: 1 – Wait 2 -
Important business 3 - What is the time? 6 - I am ready 7 - Are you ready?
12 - Do you understand? 13 - I understand 14 - What is the weather? 17 -
Lightning here 19 - Form 19 train order (used by RR) 21 - Stop to eat 23 -
All copy 24 - Repeat this back 30 - No more, end 31 - Form 31 train order
(used by RR) 44 - Answer promptly by wire 73 - Best regards 88 - Love and
kisses 92 - Deliver promptly 134 - Who is at the key?

For the History of 73 see URL:
http://ac6v.com/73.htm#73

It then becomes apparent that it is 73 NOT 73's, but many say 73's and
everyone knows what is meant.


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Old December 19th 03, 01:01 AM
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 01:44:32 GMT, "Dick, AA5VU"
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It's just 73 and on CW is is


Is is? Is that like 73s ? LOL!

As Bill Clinton said. The meaning of the word "IS" is debatable! LOL!

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Old December 16th 03, 01:46 AM
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My name is Steve

My handle is for the pleasure of my xyl

73

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Well to me 73`sss and "HANDLE" reminds me of CB`ers, on the ham bands
and I hate hearing it.

"jerry franks" wrote in message
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It's not "Best Wishes" but "Best Regards"






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Old December 19th 03, 01:00 AM
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 01:13:15 GMT, "Marty B."
wrote:

Well to me 73`sss and "HANDLE" reminds me of CB`ers, on the ham bands
and I hate hearing it.


Wrong again. Hams have always said 73s. I have been hearing it on the
ham bands myself since 1963 when I started as an SWL, and you can read
it in the CQ and QST magazines from the 1940s and 50s so I don't know
when you strange campaigners got into this absurd obsession but you
are sadly mistaken.

The CBers say "Seventy-thirds" which is REALLY stupid.

They also say "personal" and some otjher idiotic things,
but hey, why let it ruin your day? If they sound stupid to you, fine.

I often say 73s deliberately just to irk some of you
pedantic Johnny-come-latelys (grin!)

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Old December 19th 03, 11:14 PM
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 01:00:52 GMT, AF Four Kilo
wrote:

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 01:13:15 GMT, "Marty B."
wrote:

Well to me 73`sss and "HANDLE" reminds me of CB`ers, on the ham bands
and I hate hearing it.


Wrong again. Hams have always said 73s. I have been hearing it on the
ham bands myself since 1963 when I started as an SWL, and you can read
it in the CQ and QST magazines from the 1940s and 50s so I don't know
when you strange campaigners got into this absurd obsession but you
are sadly mistaken.



There are always exceptions, but the question is, "what has been the
commonly accepted practice over the years?" Out of curiosity, I
picked a couple of QSTs off the shelf. One was from Nov 1968, and the
other from Aug 1947. I looked through every page and found the use of
73 once in each magazine. Nowhere did I see the use of 73s, and I
would challenge you to show common usage of the abbreviation 73s in
amateur magazines from the 40s and 50s. Of course I did see a note
from G6CL in the 1947 QST who suggested the use of 161 to shorten the
use of 73 and 88 together! :-)

Dick - W6CCD


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