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Thread gone astray was Antennas led astray
Richard Clark wrote:
The world waits in wonder at your assertion of Einstein's ability to set the speed of light and time - especially when it had been investigated and quantified by many earlier workers, notably Michelson and Morely. Please Google "relativity" and "Lorentz transforms" for the technical facts as presented by Einstein. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
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Richard Clark wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote: One thing had to be nailed down and Einstein chose the speed of light. Fact of the matter was previous to Michelson and Morely's work, a Scottish fellow by the name of Maxwell had already DEFINED the speed of light. I never said or implied that Einstein "DEFINED the speed of light", only that he "nailed it down" in his equations as the one universal constant - while all other parameters are subject to relativity effects. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
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On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:52:38 -0600, Cecil Moore
wrote: I never said or implied that Einstein "DEFINED the speed of light", only that he "nailed it down" in his equations as the one universal constant - while all other parameters are subject to relativity effects. Let's face it, you never really say anything in the end. We can see this in the guff like that above. "nailed it down," now there's a charming non-sequitur. Maxwell preceded him by decades with the definition of the speed of light - Einstein certainly nailed nothing there. Maxwell's equations are nothing if not universally applicable, Einstein didn't add anything that pounded any nail there either. And to hail-Mary it with while all other parameters are subject to relativity effects. contradicts Einstein explicitly in that he taught that "all laws of physics are the same within all inertial frames of reference." Einstein did not exclude anything. |
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Cecil Moore wrote:
Richard Clark wrote: Cecil Moore wrote: One thing had to be nailed down and Einstein chose the speed of light. Fact of the matter was previous to Michelson and Morely's work, a Scottish fellow by the name of Maxwell had already DEFINED the speed of light. I never said or implied that Einstein "DEFINED the speed of light", only that he "nailed it down" in his equations as the one universal constant - while all other parameters are subject to relativity effects. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com permittivity of free space, permeability of free space, radian... -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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Richard Clark wrote:
Let's face it, you never really say anything in the end. We can see this in the guff like that above. "nailed it down," now there's a charming non-sequitur. Maxwell preceded him by decades with the definition of the speed of light - Einstein certainly nailed nothing there. Einstein was the first to nail down the speed of light in free space as an absolute in his relativity equations. You can verify that fact by Googling "relativity". -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
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On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 03:29:38 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote: You can verify that fact by Googling "relativity". Sounds like Xerox logic. Appeal to the authority of Google pretty much puts Einstein into the garbage can like a moldy rind. |
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Richard Clark wrote:
It was Lorentz that described time dilation (using the speed of light) in 1887 and formalized in 1899, and it was Poincaré who introduced this math in 1905, not Einstein. It was Einstein who first recognized that the Lorentz transforms actually applied to reality and were not just another useful set of purely mathematical transforms. If Lorentz and Poincare had recognized that fact, they would have gotten credit for the theory of relativity but guess who got the credit? Hint: The guy who nailed down the speed of light as an absolute in his relativity equations. Nowhere have I ever read that the mathematicians, Lorentz or Poincare, ever suspected that the speed of light in a vacuum was a fixed absolute. That concept was left to a physicist. he "nailed it down" in his equations is an slur on Maxwell, Lamor, Lorentz, and Poincaré's contributions that predate Einstein by decades. No slur intended or implied so it must be a mistaken inference on your part. You obviously jumped to a wrong conclusion and do not understand what I meant by "nailed it down". If everything is relative, then nothing is fixed. By declaring the speed of light in a vacuum to be a fixed absolute, Einstein nailed down the cornerstone of his theory. Relativity needed a reference nailed down. Einstein nailed down the speed of light as that reference. In my context, "set it in concrete" would be synonym for "nailed it down". I do believe the speed of light in a vacuum is set in concrete within the theory of relativity. You are walking around a vacant lot and find a rope. You want to experiment with waves using the rope. You "nail down" one end of the rope and apply energy at the other end. Are you slurring the inventors and/or manufacturers of the rope? Please explain how. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
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On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 13:12:24 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote: -Sigh- Special relativity cowboy rope tricks snipped.... You are walking around a vacant lot and find a rope. You want to experiment with waves using the rope. No one expects the Spanish Inquisition! Whip your rope twice and you are forgiven, whip your rope more and you are sinning. |
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"Cecil Moore" wrote in message . net... Richard Clark wrote: The world waits in wonder at your assertion of Einstein's ability to set the speed of light and time - especially when it had been investigated and quantified by many earlier workers, notably Michelson and Morely. Please Google "relativity" and "Lorentz transforms" for the technical facts as presented by Einstein. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com Einstien contribution was that he made the connection between matter and energy. The fact that the speed of light appeared to be constant regardless of the observers reference was already fairly well established before Einstien began his work. He just proposed a possible explanation |
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