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Old January 26th 07, 10:44 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Jim Kelley wrote:

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Jim:

Have you read about the quantum phenomenon(s) which begin when you even
start getting close to absolute zero? I can just imagine attempting
logical measurements ...

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John Smith I wrote:
Jim Kelley wrote:

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Jim:

Have you read about the quantum phenomenon(s) which begin when you even
start getting close to absolute zero? I can just imagine attempting
logical measurements ...

Warmest regards,
JS


Jim:

This gives a "glimpse" of what I mean, the above was vague ...

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc...9/phy99194.htm

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On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:56:01 -0800, John Smith I
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Have you read about the quantum phenomenon(s) which begin when you even
start getting close to absolute zero?


An example of the conflict between show and tell. Surprisingly you
offer to neither show, nor tell what happens... which leaves us with
your statement:

I can just imagine attempting
logical measurements ...


Luckily, those who practice the trade have skipped the part of
imagining and just accomplish it instead.

This gives a "glimpse" of what I mean, the above was vague ...

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc...9/phy99194.htm


Given the reference (a painfully pretentious website with as much
armchair theory offered as in this thread), you must have misspelled
vogue.

The forced argument (a strawman at that) of motion ceasing went out
with fringe topped surries. Now THAT (motion? what motion?) is vague
in the extreme given there are a considerable number of dynamics that
occur at the 0°K atomic scale. Are we suppose that electrons in their
orbits at 1°µK will collapse into the nucleus (permenantly frozen into
inaction) with the final chilling tweak? What a larf!

These akademik arguments only need the added stipulation that you have
to exhibit an absolute zero beer cooler that will hold the temperature
throughout the Super Bowl.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
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Richard Clark wrote:
Are we suppose that electrons in their
orbits at 1°µK will collapse into the nucleus (permenantly frozen into
inaction) with the final chilling tweak?


From: http://www.calphysics.org/zpe.html

"Zero-point energy is the energy that remains when all other
energy is removed from a system. This behaviour is demonstrated
by, for example, liquid helium. As the temperature is lowered
to absolute zero, helium remains a liquid, rather than freezing
to a solid, owing to the irremovable zero-point energy of its
atomic motions."
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
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