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![]() "art" wrote in message oups.com... On 1 Jun, 11:51, John Smith I wrote: Cecil Moore wrote: ... We know that e = mc^2 All we need is a method for conversion of ordinary mass into energy. Cecil: Absolutely! However, I am much more interested in converting energy to matter. Be nice to have a little machine in the backyard converting sunlight into gold! NO, I am NOT talking about gardening marijuana. grin Regards, JS John DO do you think that Americans are not interested in experimenting any more because if anything new comes about that is usefull we can hire the engineers from India who have already done the research? Actually it seems that it has gone beyond that when you see the outcry against the Gaussian antenna or even boiling water. Do Americans really believe really believe that all is known and it is a waste of time to experiment? That if you are educated under the American system you have the ability to determine before hand what will work and what will not work? As an immigrant I was asked by the media the other day do I believe that immigrants that do the work that Americans wont do have a different aproach to life? I pointed him to read this newsgroup and make up his own mind , but I also did tell him to look up history to see how past Empires were lost, but I am not sure that he got my point Art and just how do you know who on this group was educated where?? maybe those of us educated under the 'American' system have enough common sense to recognize snake oil when we see it?? A question for you... when was the last time you saw some really new invention that wasn't eventually proven to be fraud or bad science announced first on a usenet news group??? or on a tv news show??? |
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Dave wrote:
... and just how do you know who on this group was educated where?? maybe those of us educated under the 'American' system have enough common sense to recognize snake oil when we see it?? A question for you... when was the last time you saw some really new invention that wasn't eventually proven to be fraud or bad science announced first on a usenet news group??? or on a tv news show??? Did you use that same argument when quantum physics was first being discussed? If not, how did you know that "insane phenomenon" was real? Although we have already developed experimental quantum computers and we can exploit the phenomenon, we do not understand the underlying physics to any real degree ... JS |
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On 1 Jun, 13:25, John Smith I wrote:
Dave wrote: ... and just how do you know who on this group was educated where?? maybe those of us educated under the 'American' system have enough common sense to recognize snake oil when we see it?? A question for you... when was the last time you saw some really new invention that wasn't eventually proven to be fraud or bad science announced first on a usenet news group??? or on a tv news show??? Did you use that same argument when quantum physics was first being discussed? If not, how did you know that "insane phenomenon" was real? Although we have already developed experimental quantum computers and we can exploit the phenomenon, we do not understand the underlying physics to any real degree ... JS Hold on now John. He was one of the first to find out that american mathematics was given incorrect answers. He pointed that out when that MIT doctor gave the mathematics to prove that adding the unit of time to both sides of the equation ( Gaussian statics law) changed a conservative field to a non conservative field with respect to radiation. On top of that most of the experts on the net agree with him. To point out that american mathematics does not support those of Gauss and Maxwell is indeed a major achievement and has gained him mass support from the resident experts. All resist the idea that equilibrium exists. Art |
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On 1 Jun, 13:15, "Dave" wrote:
"art" wrote in message oups.com... On 1 Jun, 11:51, John Smith I wrote: Cecil Moore wrote: ... We know that e = mc^2 All we need is a method for conversion of ordinary mass into energy. Cecil: Absolutely! However, I am much more interested in converting energy to matter. Be nice to have a little machine in the backyard converting sunlight into gold! NO, I am NOT talking about gardening marijuana. grin Regards, JS John DO do you think that Americans are not interested in experimenting any more because if anything new comes about that is usefull we can hire the engineers from India who have already done the research? Actually it seems that it has gone beyond that when you see the outcry against the Gaussian antenna or even boiling water. Do Americans really believe really believe that all is known and it is a waste of time to experiment? That if you are educated under the American system you have the ability to determine before hand what will work and what will not work? As an immigrant I was asked by the media the other day do I believe that immigrants that do the work that Americans wont do have a different aproach to life? I pointed him to read this newsgroup and make up his own mind , but I also did tell him to look up history to see how past Empires were lost, but I am not sure that he got my point Art and just how do you know who on this group was educated where?? maybe those of us educated under the 'American' system have enough common sense to recognize snake oil when we see it?? A question for you... when was the last time you saw some really new invention that wasn't eventually proven to be fraud or bad science announced first on a usenet news group??? or on a tv news show???- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - David, I pointed him to this newsgroup because I considered you and others with your level of education and aproach to life was typical of the average american. If he read thru the this particular thread for instance I would allow him to figure out for himself from the educational responses the level of education. As for fear of the new or experimentation I suspect he would be as baffled as I am tho I am sure he can recognise arrogance when he sees it. I pointed out to him what some of you see yourselfs as being the best of America, frankly I believe I did a diservice to the America of old, and immigration of the sciences from other countries is our only hope Check what Roy has to say with respect to the education of the masses, he considers himself to be of a higher level and more qualified than most that allows him to be a judge. Art |
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On 1 Jun, 13:15, "Dave" wrote:
"art" wrote in message oups.com... On 1 Jun, 11:51, John Smith I wrote: Cecil Moore wrote: ... We know that e = mc^2 All we need is a method for conversion of ordinary mass into energy. Cecil: Absolutely! However, I am much more interested in converting energy to matter. Be nice to have a little machine in the backyard converting sunlight into gold! NO, I am NOT talking about gardening marijuana. grin Regards, JS John DO do you think that Americans are not interested in experimenting any more because if anything new comes about that is usefull we can hire the engineers from India who have already done the research? Actually it seems that it has gone beyond that when you see the outcry against the Gaussian antenna or even boiling water. Do Americans really believe really believe that all is known and it is a waste of time to experiment? That if you are educated under the American system you have the ability to determine before hand what will work and what will not work? As an immigrant I was asked by the media the other day do I believe that immigrants that do the work that Americans wont do have a different aproach to life? I pointed him to read this newsgroup and make up his own mind , but I also did tell him to look up history to see how past Empires were lost, but I am not sure that he got my point Art and just how do you know who on this group was educated where?? Are you nuts? Americans stand out so heavily regardless of where in the World they are together with the alteration of English. When you go overseas it is americans who talk the loudest, why I don't know. They also believe that foreighners cannot understand English and make fools of themselves talking about the resident travelers. The movie The Quiet American was just an a abberation. I would say however that foreigners should really visit the Mid West before they form an opinion of America as the people are so gentlemanly here compared to the big cities and coastal areas. As far as getting an opinion on your educational level I am sure that reading your postings would give a accurate reflection of your education and your personal 'curtiousness' as I am sure that you are doing the best that you can every time you put pen to paper such that it really reflects you and what you really are.You are doing your best aren't you? Art maybe those of us educated under the 'American' system have enough common sense to recognize snake oil when we see it?? A question for you... when was the last time you saw some really new invention that wasn't eventually proven to be fraud or bad science announced first on a usenet news group??? or on a tv news show???- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh come on! People know on the net that all is known and there is nothing new, why should I argue with that aproach and who could I convince otherwise? Art |
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