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Art, it may come as a total shock to you, but we do get 'your
point'... It is just that some of your points are more wishful
thinking than anything else and some of us are from Missouri...

It is only in your wishful thinking that todays american is lazy,
unmotivated, and stupid, and only the immigrants are smart, and
motivated, and hard working... America as a whole is a ferocious
industrial giant who competes in the world market like an 800 pound
gorilla...

An aside discussion could be why do these smart, motivated, educated
immigrants have to come to the USA to be successful in the first
place? But, I'll let indulge in your own thoughts on that...

No, I we do not believe that everything is known and there is
nothing left to invent... Gravity is still a mystery... The mere
presence of Dark matter totally refutes the Big Bang Theory...


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On 4 Jun, 06:20, Denny wrote:
Art, it may come as a total shock to you, but we do get 'your
point'... It is just that some of your points are more wishful
thinking than anything else and some of us are from Missouri...

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We do get" your point" Could you explain in more detail,
some here will not agree with you? You may get more static
than you think if you are opposing the experts !
I warn you that it takes guts to go against the experts
and I don't think you are up to it.

...............
Smart people are comming to this country because companies are
enticing themwith money. They paid all my expences as well
as the rest of the family while Americans were looking for
work with a $50,000 college loan to repay. The company I
worked for laid off over a hundred engineers of leaving only
seven of us left. With manufacturing gone overseas they are
going to have a hard time getting a position
.......................
I live in a insurance town and we have a company that specialising
in bringing into the community software engineers in from India for
different businesses. We have more than enough here already that
we have a full blown cricket league ! I will leave it to others
to explain that.

.......................
If you do not believe every thing is known what accounts for the
resistance to the new with respect to antennas? They have
even got to the point of resisting mathematics.
Some get angry because they want me to answer their questions
over and over again without reading prior postings just so
they can dig a knife in. I would be very much encouraged if
just one person acknoweledged the Gaussian aproach but sadly
this newsgroup is for arguments and ridicule.
Art

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I would be very much encouraged if
just one person acknoweledged the Gaussian aproach but sadly
this newsgroup is for arguments and ridicule.
Art



I have not critiqued in any post I have made, your Gaussian approach -
not that I expect you have a grid on the wall and are keeping score -
your method of combining Gauss, time, and classic EMF theory is beyond
my mathematical abilities... Where is Dick Feynman when you need
him...

Return with us now to those thrilling days of yesteryear the cultural
reference will not be familiar to you and focus on burning water no,
not Jack Daniels...
I am willing to learn - so what in those photos and the captions do
you see is new physics? That is what is confusing me...

Plasma physics are well known again, I personally only know what I
read on the topic... However, in a previous lifetime I was
responsible for keeping a herd of 100KW RF induction heaters working,
so I have some understanding of what high intensity EMF can and cannot
do..
The fact that it does not work on pure water non conductive but has
to have a conductor a salt added to it is a flaming directional
arrow in the wilderness...
The fact that the flame color indicates sodium ions are being heated
above the wick is to me, as an old lab chemist, a futher indication as
to mechanism...

The real issue here is what use is this particular method of plasma
induction? Interesting - yes...
Useful - questionable
A new source of power - highly suspect...

denny / k8do

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"Denny" wrote in message
ups.com...
I would be very much encouraged if
just one person acknoweledged the Gaussian aproach but sadly
this newsgroup is for arguments and ridicule.
Art



I have not critiqued in any post I have made, your Gaussian approach -
not that I expect you have a grid on the wall and are keeping score -
your method of combining Gauss, time, and classic EMF theory is beyond
my mathematical abilities... Where is Dick Feynman when you need
him...

Guass and time were already combined many years ago by Maxwell/ Heavyside.
If Art is saying they were wrong he hasnt said how. I havent seen any math
from
Art showing how he related time to Guass's theory, How it is different from
the established relationship
and how he can justify using NEC software which uses the established
relationships(not gassian}to verify the operation of his antennas.
Art needs to give us reason to see what he sees and he hasnt.

Jimmie


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On 5 Jun, 05:39, "Jimmie D" wrote:
"Denny" wrote in message

ups.com...I would be very much encouraged if
just one person acknoweledged the Gaussian aproach but sadly
this newsgroup is for arguments and ridicule.
Art


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Guass and time were already combined many years ago by Maxwell/ Heavyside.
If Art is saying they were wrong he hasnt said how.


As you say........ "IF".........
Art has not said that.




I havent seen any math
from
Art showing how he related time to Guass's theory, How it is different from
the established relationship
and how he can justify using NEC software which uses the established
relationships(not gassian}to verify the operation of his antennas.
Art needs to give us reason to see what he sees and he hasnt.

Jimmie





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On 5 Jun, 04:30, Denny wrote:
I would be very much encouraged if

just one person acknoweledged the Gaussian aproach but sadly
this newsgroup is for arguments and ridicule.
Art


I have not critiqued in any post I have made, your Gaussian approach -
not that I expect you have a grid on the wall and are keeping score -
your method of combining Gauss, time, and classic EMF theory is beyond
my mathematical abilities... Where is Dick Feynman when you need
him...

Return with us now to those thrilling days of yesteryear the cultural
reference will not be familiar to you and focus on burning water no,
not Jack Daniels...
I am willing to learn - so what in those photos and the captions do
you see is new physics? That is what is confusing me...

Plasma physics are well known again, I personally only know what I
read on the topic... However, in a previous lifetime I was
responsible for keeping a herd of 100KW RF induction heaters working,
so I have some understanding of what high intensity EMF can and cannot
do..
The fact that it does not work on pure water non conductive but has
to have a conductor a salt added to it is a flaming directional
arrow in the wilderness...
The fact that the flame color indicates sodium ions are being heated
above the wick is to me, as an old lab chemist, a futher indication as
to mechanism...

The real issue here is what use is this particular method of plasma
induction? Interesting - yes...
Useful - questionable
A new source of power - highly suspect...

denny / k8do


Well said
Art

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