On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 05:56:57 +0000, david wrote:

On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 20:26:50 -0500, Tuuk rearranged some electrons to
say:

Radio Frequency, a electro magnetic field from 3khz to 300ghz.

This RF is a specific freq? RF could just be a general statement,
meaning anything RF. So if your voice is about 10000 to 20,000 hz to
which then dogs pick up just higher,

RF ?? What a broad statement.

How were you able to obtain an amateur radio license without knowing the
difference between acoustic energy and electromagnetic energy?


So what about the batteries? Anyone got success or bad luck with a
online dealer? I see them on ebay for about 40 bucks, shipped, seems
about fair for a 12v.

Anyone who thinks he's picking up radiation from rocks on his HT
probably shouldn't be messing around with batteries, it might be a bit
over your head.

The OP had a healthy sense of humor, which sailed over your head, dave.

kd6il

Hi David

I wasn't really asking about acoustic energy, I was asking about RF energy,
frequency, radio frequency. Not sure where you came up with your assumption.

Of course I asked the question, which means I didn't know.

I hope you are not a teacher, I would be an angry taxpayer in your
community.





"david" wrote in message
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On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 20:26:50 -0500, Tuuk rearranged some electrons to
say:

Radio Frequency, a electro magnetic field from 3khz to 300ghz.

This RF is a specific freq? RF could just be a general statement,
meaning anything RF. So if your voice is about 10000 to 20,000 hz to
which then dogs pick up just higher,

RF ?? What a broad statement.

How were you able to obtain an amateur radio license without knowing the
difference between acoustic energy and electromagnetic energy?


So what about the batteries? Anyone got success or bad luck with a
online dealer? I see them on ebay for about 40 bucks, shipped, seems
about fair for a 12v.

Anyone who thinks he's picking up radiation from rocks on his HT probably
shouldn't be messing around with batteries, it might be a bit over your
head.

CELL towers should all by now be totally digital, due to the fact that I doubt if there is any analog cell phones still in use out there.
When the batteries goes dead, people gets new phones, doesn't replace the batteries, and at some point, the batteries are probably not produced anymore - hence the phones are rendered unusable.

The phones operate on a band somewhere between 869 and 913 MHz.

4 G towers do not even use a fiber optic link anymore, because it is too slow.
There is a antenna on top of the tower which sends the signal directly to a satellite in the sky.
So I would have to wonder what kind of tower you live beside?
What is radiating the analog signal, and at that harmonic.

When the signals were analog, I could listen to them with a old Bearcat scanner by listening below the cell frequency to the 1st or 2nd harmonic which was slightly below the cell towers frequency, but it was one conversation at a time on a specific frequency.

On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 09:15:25 -0500, Tuuk wrote:

Hi

I have the Yaesu FT530 handheld two meter and 70cm with battery.

The unit is very sensitive. For example, when ever I hold the unit near
some devices such as my smart meter, all frequencies show receiving
massive amounts of fuzz. When I hold near my phone (Northern Telecom
phone with many lines and displays) it also shows full strength noise.
Holding too close to the TV also, but other areas away from these things
nothing.

What is this unit receiving that would cause it to go useless? Is it
measuring radiation? IMF? RF? Gama? Alpha? Sigma? Cilium? Iodine? EMF?
When I put it near the granit rocks on my sauna heater it shows a small
reading of something, I heard there is radiation in rocks.

Any ideas what the interference is that I am picking up?

It is an older unit I know, are the newer ones this sensitive to area
noise?

Any ideas what this is receiving from these devices or appliances that
is making me curious?

Thanks again hams for any advice,,,

73

As long as you don't put your ham station next to your Smartmeter, you'll
be OK. If you get the battery from a Vertec industrial supplier it's
cheaper than from a ham radio supplier, so I'm told. Please let us know,
thanks.

Yes, Thanks for the info

Yes, rocks do emit radiation, especially if they come out of the deep
ground.

As a matter of fact, at our international boarders, when there is a truck
load shippment of granite countertops coming through, their x-ray machines
cannot scan those trucks because of that natural radiation coming from those
rocks so contrar to what you may believe, rocks do emit radiation.

The smart meters do emit a massive amout of RF now that I have learned and
it is a big problem in some states like California where groups are now
rising against it. Because of it.

While today we micro manage our health in so many ways, I like to refine
where I can. Yes, I know some old hams who worked next to 2kw linear amps
their whole life, nothing wrong with them, however I am curious to learn.




"dave" wrote in message
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On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 09:15:25 -0500, Tuuk wrote:

Hi

I have the Yaesu FT530 handheld two meter and 70cm with battery.

The unit is very sensitive. For example, when ever I hold the unit near
some devices such as my smart meter, all frequencies show receiving
massive amounts of fuzz. When I hold near my phone (Northern Telecom
phone with many lines and displays) it also shows full strength noise.
Holding too close to the TV also, but other areas away from these things
nothing.

What is this unit receiving that would cause it to go useless? Is it
measuring radiation? IMF? RF? Gama? Alpha? Sigma? Cilium? Iodine? EMF?
When I put it near the granit rocks on my sauna heater it shows a small
reading of something, I heard there is radiation in rocks.

Any ideas what the interference is that I am picking up?

It is an older unit I know, are the newer ones this sensitive to area
noise?

Any ideas what this is receiving from these devices or appliances that
is making me curious?

Thanks again hams for any advice,,,

73

As long as you don't put your ham station next to your Smartmeter, you'll
be OK. If you get the battery from a Vertec industrial supplier it's
cheaper than from a ham radio supplier, so I'm told. Please let us know,
thanks.

Hi again,

I am sorry for stirring up a hornets nest here, I didn't expect some of the
negative comments, maybe I will try answering my own question through
google,

Do rocks give off radiaton,

Certainly they do, to whoever it was who suggested I was ignorant or should
not work with batteries because I asked the question, I wanted to know the
type of radiation, level of harm, especially on my sauna rocks, well the
answer is yes.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Do_rocks_give_off_radiation

http://www.epa.gov/radiation/radionuclides/radium.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_ray_logging

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Do_rocks_give_off_radiation

http://www.furryelephant.com/content...und-radiation/

http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/p...radiation.html


Second part of my own question was about my new smart meter they put on my
home. My FT530 goes off the chart when I am near it, I asked why and if the
radiation or RF from there was serious. I will answer my own question
through google.

Yes, Smart meters give off a lot of radiation and it is serious.

http://www.electricalpollution.com/smartmeters.html


http://electricsense.com/2225/smart-...you-must-know/

http://www.youaretheanswer.ca/radiat...s/smartmeters/


But basically sometimes some of you give a wonderful rant on the topic, I
enjoy very much from a Hams point of view. Very logical, very interesting,
usually right on and usually intelligent. And usually accurate. So I asked
the question

Why some fling the mud? Maybe you just wanna argue or rag chew or whatever,
but the Hams I always knew were most eager to help, most eager to share
their knowledge on the topic, and I still know a lot who are like this.

I still would like to hear some Ham's opinion on these topics, there is no
geological newsgroup that is active, already tried, so those chunks of
beautiful granite I have on my sauna heater came from deep below the earth's
surface in Northern Ontario and my 530 does show activitiy when near them,
not near as much as the smart meter, I know it is sensitive. And I know it
is small amounts of RF, so just curious

73







" Tuuk" wrote in message
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Hi

I have the Yaesu FT530 handheld two meter and 70cm with battery.

The unit is very sensitive. For example, when ever I hold the unit near
some devices such as my smart meter, all frequencies show receiving
massive amounts of fuzz. When I hold near my phone (Northern Telecom phone
with many lines and displays) it also shows full strength noise. Holding
too close to the TV also, but other areas away from these things nothing.

What is this unit receiving that would cause it to go useless? Is it
measuring radiation? IMF? RF? Gama? Alpha? Sigma? Cilium? Iodine? EMF?
When I put it near the granit rocks on my sauna heater it shows a small
reading of something, I heard there is radiation in rocks.

Any ideas what the interference is that I am picking up?

It is an older unit I know, are the newer ones this sensitive to area
noise?

Any ideas what this is receiving from these devices or appliances that is
making me curious?

Thanks again hams for any advice,,,

73

I wonder if these people need my Yaesu HT to solve the problem???


http://www.thestar.com/news/article/...n-nothing?bn=1







" Tuuk" wrote in message
...
Hi

I have the Yaesu FT530 handheld two meter and 70cm with battery.

The unit is very sensitive. For example, when ever I hold the unit near
some devices such as my smart meter, all frequencies show receiving
massive amounts of fuzz. When I hold near my phone (Northern Telecom phone
with many lines and displays) it also shows full strength noise. Holding
too close to the TV also, but other areas away from these things nothing.

What is this unit receiving that would cause it to go useless? Is it
measuring radiation? IMF? RF? Gama? Alpha? Sigma? Cilium? Iodine? EMF?
When I put it near the granit rocks on my sauna heater it shows a small
reading of something, I heard there is radiation in rocks.

Any ideas what the interference is that I am picking up?

It is an older unit I know, are the newer ones this sensitive to area
noise?

Any ideas what this is receiving from these devices or appliances that is
making me curious?

Thanks again hams for any advice,,,

73