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Uzytkownik "Jeff" napisal w wiadomosci ... On 15/04/2012 09:58, Szczepan Bialek wrote: But you wrote that your radio have the earth/chassis. The point that you are missing is that the earth connection has NOTHING to do with transmitting or receiving a signal. If is merely there for safety in the event of a lightening strike or build up or static. So the radio have the earth/chassis. Ian's equipment will work no differently is the earth connection is disconnected. Marconi was WRONG!!!! And what about your equipment? Is the earth connection disconnected? S* |
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"Jeff" napisal w wiadomosci ... On 15/04/2012 10:33, Szczepan Bialek wrote: Uzytkownik napisal w wiadomosci ... On 15/04/2012 09:58, Szczepan Bialek wrote: But you wrote that your radio have the earth/chassis. The point that you are missing is that the earth connection has NOTHING to do with transmitting or receiving a signal. If is merely there for safety in the event of a lightening strike or build up or static. So the radio have the earth/chassis. Ian's equipment will work no differently is the earth connection is disconnected. Marconi was WRONG!!!! And what about your equipment? Is the earth connection disconnected? S* I have no earth connection, so it cannot be connected or disconnected. Why than: "The ideal ground system forAM broadcasters comprises at least 120 buried copper or phosphor bronze radial wires at least one-quarter wavelength long and a ground-screen in the immediate vicinity of the tower. All the ground system components are bonded together, usually by welding, brazing or using coin silversolder to help reduce corrosion". From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopole_antenna Tell them that they are WRONG. S* |
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:
Why than: "The ideal ground system forAM broadcasters comprises at least 120 buried copper or phosphor bronze radial wires at least one-quarter wavelength long and a ground-screen in the immediate vicinity of the tower. All the ground system components are bonded together, usually by welding, brazing or using coin silversolder to help reduce corrosion". From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopole_antenna Tell them that they are WRONG. S* It says "for AM broadcasters", not "for every transmitter". Your conclusion that anything applying to a low frequency transmitter for which it is impractical to build a balanced resonating antenna applies to all transmitters in the universe is just wrong. |
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"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
.. . Why than: "The ideal ground system forAM broadcasters comprises at least 120 buried copper or phosphor bronze radial wires at least one-quarter wavelength long and a ground-screen in the immediate vicinity of the tower. All the ground system components are bonded together, usually by welding, brazing or using coin silversolder to help reduce corrosion". From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopole_antenna Tell them that they are WRONG. S* Hello again Szczepan The answer to your question is in that Wikipedia article. Read the "Radiation Pattern" paragraph. If you can get ham radio textbooks in your country then you'd understand a lot better by reading a textbook on aerials. Try http://www.rsgbshop.org/acatalog/Onl...tennas_37.html and www.arrl.org/shop/Antennas/ I haven't seen an answer from you to my question which asked: "Are you discussing resonant or non-resonant aerials, please?" Best wishes, Ian. |
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:
Why than: "The ideal ground system forAM broadcasters comprises at least 120 buried copper or phosphor bronze radial wires at least one-quarter wavelength long and a ground-screen in the immediate vicinity of the tower. All the ground system components are bonded together, usually by welding, brazing or using coin silversolder to help reduce corrosion". From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopole_antenna Because they are talking specifically about a vertical, monopole antenna mounted on the ground and fed at the base end. They are NOT talking about antennas in general. They are NOT talking about transmitters. Tell them that they are WRONG. S* They are not wrong, you are just too stupid to understand what they ARE talking about. |
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"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message .. . "Jeff" napisal w wiadomosci ... On 15/04/2012 10:33, Szczepan Bialek wrote: Uzytkownik napisal w wiadomosci ... On 15/04/2012 09:58, Szczepan Bialek wrote: But you wrote that your radio have the earth/chassis. The point that you are missing is that the earth connection has NOTHING to do with transmitting or receiving a signal. If is merely there for safety in the event of a lightening strike or build up or static. So the radio have the earth/chassis. Ian's equipment will work no differently is the earth connection is disconnected. Marconi was WRONG!!!! And what about your equipment? Is the earth connection disconnected? S* I have no earth connection, so it cannot be connected or disconnected. # Why than: "The ideal ground system forAM broadcasters comprises at least 120 # buried copper or phosphor bronze radial wires at least one-quarter # wavelength long and a ground-screen in the immediate vicinity of the tower. # All the ground system components are bonded together, usually by welding, # brazing or using coin silversolder to help reduce corrosion". From: # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopole_antenna # # Tell them that they are WRONG. # S* Looks like you are either a troll or being deliberately dense. Reminds me of the mechanical engineer guy on the group a while back who was making fantastic claims for miniscule antennas. At any rate: PLONK ..._._ |
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In the statement about AM Broadcasters you state about the ideal ground
system & describe about the Radials but then ask why, That goes to show you don't know anything about Antennas, Transmitters. Feedlines, Matching, Efficiency, If you read farther you would have possibly learned something but you don't want to learn just bother the group. Nowhere in what you wrote does it state it is for static or what it is for except if you would read farther it would have told you...What about a balanced antenna, It has no earth connection & doesn't need one per your earth definition. If Maxwell was alive today & had read about all the improvements & discoveries that have been made & are still being made He would say He was wrong & that the answer to your question is NO.....I see you have started a new thread called Electron Gun but keep referring back to this thread for the answer. I'm very sure you know nothing about a electron gun, or a vacuum tube....To bad you don't know how to read or study & especially learn about anything... "Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message .. . "Jeff" napisal w wiadomosci ... On 15/04/2012 10:33, Szczepan Bialek wrote: Uzytkownik napisal w wiadomosci ... On 15/04/2012 09:58, Szczepan Bialek wrote: But you wrote that your radio have the earth/chassis. The point that you are missing is that the earth connection has NOTHING to do with transmitting or receiving a signal. If is merely there for safety in the event of a lightening strike or build up or static. So the radio have the earth/chassis. Ian's equipment will work no differently is the earth connection is disconnected. Marconi was WRONG!!!! And what about your equipment? Is the earth connection disconnected? S* I have no earth connection, so it cannot be connected or disconnected. Why than: "The ideal ground system forAM broadcasters comprises at least 120 buried copper or phosphor bronze radial wires at least one-quarter wavelength long and a ground-screen in the immediate vicinity of the tower. All the ground system components are bonded together, usually by welding, brazing or using coin silversolder to help reduce corrosion". From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopole_antenna Tell them that they are WRONG. S* |
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U¿ytkownik "Howard K0ACF" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci ... In the statement about AM Broadcasters you state about the ideal ground system & describe about the Radials but then ask why, That goes to show you don't know anything about Antennas, Transmitters. Feedlines, Matching, Efficiency, If you read farther you would have possibly learned something but you don't want to learn just bother the group. Nowhere in what you wrote does it state it is for static or what it is for except if you would read farther it would have told you...What about a balanced antenna, It has no earth connection & doesn't need one per your earth definition. If Maxwell was alive today & had read about all the improvements & discoveries that have been made & are still being made He would say He was wrong & that the answer to your question is NO.....I see you have started a new thread called Electron Gun but keep referring back to this thread for the answer. I'm very sure you know nothing about a electron gun, or a vacuum tube....To bad you don't know how to read or study & especially learn about anything... Is the field electron emission from the tip top of antenna or not? I "do not know anything about Antennas, Transmitters. Feedlines, Matching, Efficiency," S* |
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:
U¿ytkownik "Howard K0ACF" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci ... In the statement about AM Broadcasters you state about the ideal ground system & describe about the Radials but then ask why, That goes to show you don't know anything about Antennas, Transmitters. Feedlines, Matching, Efficiency, If you read farther you would have possibly learned something but you don't want to learn just bother the group. Nowhere in what you wrote does it state it is for static or what it is for except if you would read farther it would have told you...What about a balanced antenna, It has no earth connection & doesn't need one per your earth definition. If Maxwell was alive today & had read about all the improvements & discoveries that have been made & are still being made He would say He was wrong & that the answer to your question is NO.....I see you have started a new thread called Electron Gun but keep referring back to this thread for the answer. I'm very sure you know nothing about a electron gun, or a vacuum tube....To bad you don't know how to read or study & especially learn about anything... Is the field electron emission from the tip top of antenna or not? I "do not know anything about Antennas, Transmitters. Feedlines, Matching, Efficiency," S* Not. There is no electron emission from an antenna when operated without arcing, something that everyone except Tesla wants to avoid at all times. |
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:
Is the field electron emission from the tip top of antenna or not? No. Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_electron_emission Read all of it. Then read it again until you understand it. After you have mastered that, read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corona_discharge Read all of it. Then read it again until you understand it. After you have mastered that, read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_arc Read all of it. Then read it again until you understand it. If you can get this far, your question has been answered fully. I "do not know anything about Antennas, Transmitters. Feedlines, Matching, Efficiency," Obviously. |
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